Verdict on Proposition 8

[MercuryJones]

calling someone ignorant is not very christian either.

But you have to enjoy the irony of someone who thinks horses can form legal consent calling others "ignorant".

 

[laikaNYC]

But you have to enjoy the irony of someone who thinks horses can form legal consent calling others "ignorant".

Too bad I never said such a thing.

 

[BostonPirate]

An interesting article on the verdict from The Economist. Forgive me for not giving me own two cents. I'm not sure I have made up my mind on the verdict yet.

http://www.economist.com/node/16743792

that is an interesting article. it seems to say that there is little to be done to overturn the ruling. That has been the legal reasoning across the board.

 

[BostonPirate]

Too bad I never said such a thing.

ok

let let laika clarify then...

what did you say in regards to polygamy and bigamy in relation to this ruling? If you read it you know that the judge defines marriage between two people gender non specific, and does nothing to overturn any laws in regards to besiality or polygamy.

If He did that then I would be interested in seeing a citation of the exact spot where he made bestiality or incest or polygamy legal in any way, because if he did, I would disagree with that decision, and it would be easily overturned.

 

[rareboy]

I pity your children having to be in that house with you.

Do you plan to have children Laika?

 

[laikaNYC]

There is nothing wrong with gay people adopting children.

Taking my words out of context I see.

 

[palemale]

The John Jay quote was only shown to provide the fact that not all the Founding Fathers shared the same views on religion in government.

By the way, Mercury, I am not a gay hater. I would expect you to say something ignorant like that though. I pity your children having to be in that house with you.

You said you were Catholic in another post. Does it not bother you that the earliest people who professed this a Christian nation were such profoundly anti-Catholic bigots? Don't you realize that those who today propound that we are a Christian nation are equally bigoted people?

 

[BostonPirate]

You said you were Catholic in another post. Does it not bother you that the earliest people who professed this a Christian nation were such profoundly anti-Catholic bigots? Don't you realize that those who today propound that we are a Christian nation are equally bigoted people?

JFK was the first catholic president. They never could be ellected befor the 60's because they were considered too easily controlled by an outside religious influence, that being the pope.

The KKK hunted catholics as well, saying they were not christian. Hitler found them usefull to manipulate, which didn't help their image at that time.

the forties and fifties were not kind to the catholics. They were not even close to being allowed in the political scene before that.

 

[TickTockMan]

the forties and fifties were not kind to the catholics. They were not even close to being allowed in the political scene before that.

So how the hell did so many of them get on the SC?

 

[BostonPirate]

So how the hell did so many of them get on the SC?

the kennedy family improved the way the nation looked at them and by and large the prejudices were let go when Kennedy gave his life for his nation. He also proved that he was not the patsy of the Pope as people had feared.

The kennedies were Tralblazers and their dedication to the nation and the cause of wiping out racism removed most of the old prejudices.

 

[palemale]

So how the hell did so many of them get on the SC?

They're mostly from the NYC metropolitan area. Well educated part of the country and a high concentration of lawyers. Scalia and Sotomayor are from NYC, and Alito is from New Jersey, right outside NYC. Kagan and Ginsburg, although not Catholic, are also from NYC. So, 5 of the 9 justices of the SCOTUS are from the NY Metropolitan area.

Kennedy and Breyer are from California. Roberts is from Buffalo, NY (but the family moved to Indiana when he was still in school). Thomas is from Georgia. It's kind of interesting that all of the judges are from New York, New Jersey and California, except Thomas.

 

[rareboy]

^ the demographics are quite fascinating.

 

[TickTockMan]

the kennedy family improved the way the nation looked at them and by and large the prejudices were let go when Kennedy gave his life for his nation. He also proved that he was not the patsy of the Pope as people had feared.

The kennedies were Tralblazers and their dedication to the nation and the cause of wiping out racism removed most of the old prejudices.

Makes sense.

They're mostly from the NYC metropolitan area. Well educated part of the country and a high concentration of lawyers. Scalia and Sotomayor are from NYC, and Alito is from New Jersey, right outside NYC. Kagan and Ginsburg, although not Catholic, are also from NYC. So, 5 of the 9 justices of the SCOTUS are from the NY Metropolitan area.

Kennedy and Breyer are from California. Roberts is from Buffalo, NY (but the family moved to Indiana when he was still in school). Thomas is from Georgia. It's kind of interesting that all of the judges are from New York, New Jersey and California, except Thomas.

^ the demographics are quite fascinating.

Very much so. I had no idea about any of that.

 

[CoolBlue71]

Saying "we're a Christian nation" is a fool's attempt to shut down conversation. But Christian nation or not, the electorate is not uniform in its opinion on this (or other) matters, and we still have a Constitution that guarantees equal protection and due process that is not contingent on a religious position.

It's an attempt to exert control over mass numbers of people using religious indoctrination of a particular kind.

 

[TickTockMan]

It makes sense given the world class schools in the northeast and California.

True, but people do go out of state and region for schooling. It would be nice to see some others from different walks of life.

 

[palemale]

Scalia went to Xavier High School in Chelsea, a very old and highly regarded Jesuit High School. It has an illustrious list of alumni, including Al Roker and Wendy Williams' personal hair stylist.

 

[laikaNYC]

Scalia went to Xavier High School in Chelsea, a very old and highly regarded Jesuit High School. It has an illustrious list of alumni, including Al Roker and Wendy Williams' personal hair stylist.

And a former Mayor of NYC, a former District Attorney of New York County, a former Medal of Honor recipient, a former president of Anheuser-Busch. Why do you feel the need to attack the school for?

By the way, sorry to tell you but you got duped. Wendy Williams hairstylist? You didn't realize that was somebody making jokes on Wikipedia?

 

[BostonPirate]

Kathy Griffin on lebians, their children, and being catholic...

Just because we need to lighten up

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orpKAS8tBHc[/ame]

 

[MercuryJones]

It's sad that there exist gays who are so beholden to conservative thought that they buy the conservative Slippery Slope fallacy about their own rights.

I'm sure such creatures exist, but I think we have the far more populous species of Troll here.

As to those you identify, it's hard to know if its being beholden to conservative thought, self-loathing or just stupidity. I mean, even if you're a self-loathing Republican, you can still have the good sense to know horses can't form legal consent.

 

[palemale]

And a former Mayor of NYC, a former District Attorney of New York County, a former Medal of Honor recipient, a former president of Anheuser-Busch. Why do you feel the need to attack the school for?

By the way, sorry to tell you but you got duped. Wendy Williams hairstylist? You didn't realize that was somebody making jokes on Wikipedia?

What made you think I was attacking the school? I only said positive things about it. I was suspicious about Wendy Williams' hairstylist, but thought it was funny and passed along the joke. You conservatives really do have no sense of humor. Republicans must throw awfully dull parties.