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VERY sexual friend?

I'd lead him on and test the waters. Watch or talk about some porn video and say that you have to jerk off, and do it with him next to you in bed (after all, you said he shows you his dick hard). Then see what he does next.

Sounds like he's afraid of acting on his gay/bisexual tendencies and still wants to feel "macho", which he probably equates with being hetero.

Good luck. And enjoy the exhibitionism! :-)
 
To say this guy's "confused" is an understatement. All his talk about chicks is a coverup. Chances are, he's totally gay, but not willing to admit it, even to himself. (Yeah, I know all about this first hand. It took me the first 50 years of my life to admit to myself I am gay.)
Don't push him too hard, directly, but give him some openings in conversation. Give his room to feel comfortable with the idea that it's OK to be gay.
When I told my best friend I was gay, he laughed, said we all have secrets, even from ourselves. Then he told me he spent 5 years in a relationship with a guy. Lived with him, sucked and fucked with him, and still paid child support for his 3 kids.

Given time, he'll come around.
 
I still say the Direct No Holds Bar Approach,would work best to end this silly Dance of Non-sense between you two. Reference my last post #25.
 
next time your are in bed or walking around the kitchen or something start the "canadian goose" game, where ya just hand peck or tag him on the junk or dick (make your hand in the shape of like your talking with a sock puppet) when he's not expecting it. that should get him in the whole cock touching aspect. it would probably progress from that and its what guys do. ....don't they?
 
I'd lead him on and test the waters. Watch or talk about some porn video and say that you have to jerk off, and do it with him next to you in bed (after all, you said he shows you his dick hard). Then see what he does next.

Sounds like he's afraid of acting on his gay/bisexual tendencies and still wants to feel "macho", which he probably equates with being hetero.

Good luck. And enjoy the exhibitionism! :-)

we have already jerk off together sevearal times hehe, but still he hasnt tried to suck me or let me do anything, but he does knda gets off on me watching him,, i am not sure but i can feel it, but once he cums he is out, we watch hetero porn though, he always glimpses at my dick real quick then glimpses again, its confusing:grrr:
 
It seems to me he is very comfortable...

NO! not with you or in your presence, that may be, but his comfort is based in his familiarity with uncertainty! Uncertainty and unease became a game, the game routine, the routine mundane, the mundane his comfort.

It seems to me he uses the "joking" as an excuse to touch you, when he does he laughs it off as a joke. Look deep enough and peel away the layers of this cat-and-mouse-like game and you will find this uncertainty at the core.

I put forth that he indeed does want to touch you, not only as he has done but intimately. Unfortunately his actions are connected fiercely to uncertainty. A lack of certainty you have... contributed to. By taking no action and being complacent in his 'jokes' you have reinforced his course of action and assesment as being true.

Perhaps he gets up the nerve to touch you, only ot laugh it off out of fear that should you know the true reasons you would go 'hetero-ape-shit' on him.

The game is a cycle. He jokes with you in a sexualized way, alluding to his true intent, laughing it off with caution. You reinforce his actions by giving no clear signals.

When you attempt to return his sexualized actions he recoils, perhaps maybe it is only a game and he is really only having fun. Perhaps he wants, desires, needs this attention but recoils out of fear. A fear born of distrust derived from your game. Could he handle it, would he be strong enough to only "joke" with you.

The cyclical patterns will continue.

That is until the cyclical behavior ends. Throw the track, hit the brakes, hold up a sign, something.

Next time he does something sexually charged, touches you, grabs you, whatever make it clear you would not mind.

Perhaps the next time you turn around you don't say anything, just look him in the eyes. Silence would reign supreme between you two for a moment, allow him to break the moment. probably "what?"

Assertive. Leave no wiggle room, doubt, uncertainty. Leave no room for interpretation, uncertainty has allowed the game to go on. You not coming out, him not saying he wants you, you playing his game. "When you touch me, I don't mind." Don't laugh it off, you would only reveal a new tool in the game, joking about being serious.

His reaction would be less predictable. perhaps he gets out of bed, maybe he asks "you don't?", maybe he reasserts he is only joking, he might possibly move his hand slowly to your face. Whatever his action reassert yourself, make it known that you have no qualms with his actions.

He has been told now you don't have a problem with his actions, you are not averse to them. Take another step based on his reaction, if he's heading out the door carrying his shoes... let him be. If his hand is across your cheek or neck then tell him you want him to touch you. "I like it."

The key though to ending your conundrum is ending the cycle of behavior. Pull away the layers, get to the core.



dude you are smart, i agree totallly....wow
 
:D I still say the direct approach is best. Gay Porn on the dvd/vcr. A straight direct statement from you to him,about this whole mess. And just get the hard cold facts and end this silly mini-mello-drama. My God Man Life is to Short and Sweet to waste it waiting around for him to get off the pot.:badgrin: It is time to put an end to this:-({|=.
 

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Just repeat everything he does to you if he touch your ass touch his back. You have to show him your as intrested as he is then he will get the clue and play with you.


Or when he touches you just turn around and say hey why do you keep touching me Are you gay or something?

Honestly it would be better now to break the ice now. Beacuse you will honestly regret in the future. I met guys like your friend in the past and i wish i did more stuf with them

But becareful and make sure hes not trying to lead you on.
 
AT this point I think I would Just ask him, Yo man you are sending me mixed signals, what's do you consider yourself, Straight, BI, or Gay or are you just curious? If he is masturbating with you- he certainly isn't toatally straight sits around and masturbates with another guy, He might be curious.
 
We had sex , Just thought i update this. Quite good. I have moved on though We are still friends. LOL
 
Pretty short update for a very complex situation. You need to tell us more. How did it happen? How did he act? Was he straight, bi, or gay? So on and so on.
 
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