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Vote Now : UK Leaders Debate, more real than US politics, but no less GREEDY

Which UK Party Will You Support?

  • LABOR: ED MILLIBAND

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  • PC: LEANNE WOOD

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David Cameron seems to have an understanding that his country is all screwed up because of his bankers, that a lot of the problems in the UK have gotten worse, like income inequality under his leadership - and will likely face consequences because of it.

So why would Cameron need to resort to fear-mongering if he really believed what he said? The look on Cameron's poker face said more than anything, that conservative leadership is the main puppet of the financial sector.

Ed Milliband strikes me as a bureaucrat as much Cameron a technocrat. Nick Clegg doesn't seem to have a cohesive message other than retaining some kind of representation in parliament as a politician, a kind of neo-liberal policy.

I understand Clegg's message but I don't think a lot would, the word balanced does not translate at all politically because there has never been real balance in western democracies.

I would ask the liberal parties, the democrats and labor, what do you represent? Leanne Wood asked why labor has virtually failed Wales, and would probably be better off without labor taking them for granted. I don't agree with David Cameron that its all tax and spend, but blaming labor for a financial crisis seems to have fooled people in the past, so why not try it again David?

The party that seemed to make the most sense were the Green party leader Natalie Bennet and UKIP leader Nigel Farage, who both pointed out how the larger parties have done nothing more than make things look better on paper when theyre not.

I was rather astonished that nobody seemed willing to take Cameron to task more on taxes. The Tories have had plenty of opportunity to fix whatever problems exist in tax evasion, why would Cameron suddenly see the light on something like this unless his political career was in danger.

Their people are suffering, and the country would be better off without joining the EU. I would not be surprised if EU pressures have materialized in the UK, with some UK politicians exploiting those pressures but voters accounting it on UK leadership, not the EU.

Here is the full debate, I am only half way into it, who would you vote for? My choice is easily Bennet, she is so right on NHS, that a race towards American style healthcare by privatizing would be a huge disaster and likely destroy the NHS.


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Their people are suffering, and the country would be better off without joining the EU.

The United Kingdom has been a member of the European Union since 1973.

Here's an article published in a left leaning newspaper describing the experience of the city of Brighton under the control of The Greens:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/dec/15/greens-blown-it-in-brighton

I quote:

After sweeping to power in 2010, the party talked of building a utopian future for British politics. But bitter infighting and the realities of austerity have left their dream in disarray
 
nick clegg said that to slove the problem of immigration you have to raise wages, that will make bad immigration worse and will destabilize UK citizens. poverty is exploding across europe because of the bankers and large greedy corporations, zero hour contracts, which is essentially right to work. cameron seems to think its better to live as a slave than to live at all when he attacked milliband on jobs, astonishing. milliband makes the correct point that cameron style immigration will only rob UK citizens of their future. cameron pulls out the jobs card but its not jobs for UK citizens its jobs for corporations by corporations.
 
The parliamentary system in the UK has become corrupt as all hell. This poll shows Farage winning this debate. it seems telling the truth only gets you so much traction, but its a good strategy. i thought political correctness was bad in the US.

If you want the same bankers running your life, vote "conservative"

I think milliband may be the next leader of the UK, he hasnt completely honed his message but the messaging is very effective. I thought he should have been way more aggressive. the world doesnt need another bankers party.

The media is saying that sturgeon won, representing the SNP, but i think shes too hawkish. Clegg was off message, if someone raised tax thresholds I would take that and run but he didnt seem to do any of that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/gen...and-Sturgeon-win-says-poll-live-reaction.html
 
Why no Nicola Sturgeon in the poll, especially after yesterdays debate which she won.

I'll be voting labour but won't care if the Nats take it.
 
I.didn't realize sturgeon could qualify i thought the snp representived themselves. why are more not interested in election reform? Seems inopportune to focus on ppersonalities and not policy.
 
The United Kingdom has been a member of the European Union since 1973.

Here's an article published in a left leaning newspaper describing the experience of the city of Brighton under the control of The Greens:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/dec/15/greens-blown-it-in-brighton

I quote:

Sorry Kallipolis, you are falling for the Labour media on this one! The Greens have 20 out for 54 seats in the council and run it as a minority. Labour, Lib Dems and the Tories have blocked everything they put forward for years - its a mess, but not due to the greens.
 
Of course it can. The political parties may not all agree on the desirability of the UK leaving the EU, but they don't dispute that it's technically possible.

Despite there being no precedent I also believe that a referendum in favour of quitting the EU would be sufficient legal grounds.

I believe that were the freedom of movement of EU citizens in search of employment amended the objections that currently underpin the voting strength of UKIP would ensure continued membership of the EU. The next government will be encouraged to negotiate with the European Commission terms that satisfy the concerns of the British people....

It is ironic that the UKs success in creating jobs is attracting labour from across the EU.
 
I.didn't realize sturgeon could qualify i thought the snp representived themselves. why are more not interested in election reform? Seems inopportune to focus on ppersonalities and not policy.

Some of us are interested in electoral reform, but it won't come up for a while again. We had a referendum in the early days of this parliament about changing to AV, which obviously failed - rightly so as well, it was a system that no one wanted. Instead the vote should have been for PR, but the Tories watered it down (with Labour support) and the Lib Dems did not stand ground on it.

I hope to hell we switch to PR in the near future, as the parties are all breaking down.
 
Sorry Kallipolis, you are falling for the Labour media on this one! The Greens have 20 out for 54 seats in the council and run it as a minority. Labour, Lib Dems and the Tories have blocked everything they put forward for years - its a mess, but not due to the greens.

I have made no observation merely, cited a newspaper article to illustrate the fact that no one party is providing a panacea for the UKs ills... with the strong possibility that the next parliament will be hung....and another coalition the probable outcome.
 
It is ironic that the UKs success in creating jobs is attracting labour from across the EU.

There are still about 1.8 million unemployed people in the UK. They should be capable of undertaking most of the jobs that the EU immigrants come here for.
 
There are still about 1.8 million unemployed people in the UK. They should be capable of undertaking most of the jobs that the EU immigrants come here for.

Great question.....why are UK companies importing so many continental Europeans, when there are such a large number of UK citizens available to fill vacant positions?

You are based in the UK...perhaps you can shed some light on this conumdrum.
 
I will probably vote Labour - although my heart is with the Greens

Never vote Tory - they promise more vicious cuts. And Farage? If we're not careful we will have fascists in the government.
 
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