Good luck on your continued progress, marley. Just be careful not to get too close to that baiting line, okay? It's a tricky one, too.
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We need to find Ram's great post about trolls. Anyone remember where it is?
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Hahaha omg, that was awesome. To quote the post "ROFLBURGERS"You guys mean this one?
Best post eva. It made the point without being obvious bait.
On the surface they look like this:
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But they really look like this:
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Facts about trolls:
1. Trolls know how to bait. They know how to make it seem like they want discussion when they really want to promote their own hatred or just cause hostility. They'll usually employ logic that has SOME ground using stats and majorities, or news links that support their idea.
2. Hot Topics is NOT a no-flame zone. Some trolls post there because the title is catchy and it gets the most traffic, some post there because the respective forums the threads should be in (Religion/Spirituality, Coming Out/Relationships, or Health/Well-being) are no-flame zones so it's like putting a muzzle on the rabid pitbull they're trying to breed..
3. Some trolls aren't easily recognizable. You really gotta pay attention to their posts to spot the signs.
4. Trolls are wordsmiths. Through use of clever phrasing, they can argue that it's stupid of you to say that the sky is blue.
WAYS TO RECOGNIZE A TROLL.
1. Look at their history (posts and created threads). Do you see a pattern of thtem creating threads and posting in hostile topics? Do they continually post in Hot Topics even though the thread would be better suited in a no-flame zone thread.
2. Look at what they respond to. Trolls ignore logical responses in favor of addressing the missteps in the opposition. They'll ignore 15 logical posts to respond to one that makes their argument stronger.
3. Do they even come back? Some trolls lay a big terd (read=baiting thread) and never even return to post in it. They sit back and watch the fight ensue, free from guilt.
4. Insults. NO INTELLIGENT PERSON who wants a REAL DISCUSSION will personally attack you because it makes anything else said null and void. We all know that the person you're responding to will miss any good points you make if you include a personal insult. Trolls want to make you mad more than they want to communicate their ideas.
5. 100% certainty and majorities. Trolls love being 100% sure of their own ideas and will argue down anything less. There's often a group they're targeting (blacks, femmes, obese, religion, gays, etc). Or a topic that elicits passionate response.
6. Popcorn. Trolls' threads usually turn into bitch-fests and fights so members who are more aware of trolling behavior or potentially hostile environments LOVE snacking on popcorn while the chaos ensues.
7. Misery. Misery loves company and trolls usually have a post-history that suggests a miserable soul is on the other end of the web. Trolls don't want people to enjoy things, especially forums like JUB. They wanna rile you up, get'cha banned, upset you, etc...
8. Trolls have to be fed. Their nourishment comes in the form of attention so they use exclamation points and strongly-worded phrases to lure you in. Don't feed them.
I used to be a victim of trolls, I assumed that every thread was really a discussion. It took getting banned for me to learn that every "discussion" isn't really a discussion, and trolls want you to log onto JUB as a war-zone, not a community forum. I've been reformed and am now more careful about who I respond to, where, and when (that's a work in progress though).
my fav part too.I think a little pee came out when I read this:
"lulz omgz, hi asl: Jubber Gruff, lmao!! *_*! rofl! I is going up to Hot Topics to learn Englishzzz and learn to type as if I haven't gotten 3/4 of my brain surgically removed ROFLBURGERS!" said the Jubber, who hadn't such a small voice (because he's a JUB supporter)."
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LOL, do you have a team? One man battling internet trolls is like an almost-empty can of Raid vs. 10,000,000,000 ants.

Amusing? The OP warns against it, even offering tips on recognizing it. We're expressing displeasure with it, and making sure noobs and naive senior posters know what they're getting into. The topic isn't a happy one, but it's not a funeral either. Everybody here seems disgusted with the behavior.
4. Through use of clever phrasing, they can argue that it's stupid of you to say that the sky is blue.
Circe seems to have a pic for just about everything.![]()
