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I mean, what the hell, why provoke people?
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offthewall14420
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They made this crap up. Fake news.
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peeonme
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Sadly, we have to wonder now.
LeicsDom
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Yep. Reap as you sow
NotHardUp1
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It is strikingly similar to a woman wearing short skirts or a gay man staring at a straight man too long in a bar.
They were both just asking for it. Who can blame anyone for reacting to the provocateurs?
They were both just asking for it. Who can blame anyone for reacting to the provocateurs?
NotHardUp1
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This is the face of the perpetrator. Is it the face of a man?
Rickrock
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He didn't start by drawing the gun, but it escalated. He flipped them off for wearing the hats. At some point they (the hat wears) then followed him out to the parking lot and they continued their argument. I can see how this escalated. The hat wearers should have let it go, but of course drawing out a gun is bad too. Everyone has too strong emotions, and that is how it is today.
^ Things WEREN'T this way........until the Trump thing......... 
America, the land of the free.
If you happen to be a white citizen.
If you happen to be a white citizen.
Latimer
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People make choices. When people make bad choices it is their fault, not the fault of others or of society. No one forced him to behave this way. People are responsible for their actions. Don't blame it on Trump.
No one should be threatened at all, let alone with a gun, for showing support for the President of the United States and the Republican Party. The Resistance loves, absolutely loves, describing Mr. Trump, his fellow Republicans and other supporters as "fascist", and yet today's totalitarians are on the left, not the right. "Just asking for it?" This is really a some sort of valid justification?
That one doesn't like the implied message of a hat or t-shirt or some other article of clothing is no exuse for attacking the person wearing it.
No one should be threatened at all, let alone with a gun, for showing support for the President of the United States and the Republican Party. The Resistance loves, absolutely loves, describing Mr. Trump, his fellow Republicans and other supporters as "fascist", and yet today's totalitarians are on the left, not the right. "Just asking for it?" This is really a some sort of valid justification?
That one doesn't like the implied message of a hat or t-shirt or some other article of clothing is no exuse for attacking the person wearing it.
^So you would not be bothered to see a person wear an article of clothing that said, "Fags rot in hell"?
NotHardUp1
What? Me? Really?
We have seen people with signs dooming gays to hell. We, as a nation, didn't kill those people from Westboro Baptist Church.
We didn't pull guns on them.
Our culture, despite the relentless press about WBC, consistently and repeatedly opposed them via our country's legitimate methods, by counter protests, by barriers of people to volunteer to show up to shield grieving families, soldiers' families, from seeing all that free speech.
Our democracy worked. The protesters, representing the most extreme minority in our vast land, even smaller than the gay population, were allowed to be obnoxiously visible and make their point, enjoying freedom probably far beyond the vision of the writers of our Constitution. And the same rights were afforded at the Lincoln Memorial recently when Black supremacists made horrible racist jibes and jeers in a public gathering, just as obnoxiously free to protest.
People were not condoned to approach them and threaten them by force of arms.
And to your point, this man is in jail and would appear to identify as white male, so he apparently isn't free for his actions, so there's that.
"Being bothered" is not the question at all. It's a question of making threats, in this case, with force of arms. And all of that before you address the question of whether MAGA can even be legitimately be considered to be derogatory in any way. This was a Tennessean menacing a pair of Kentuckians. Hardly an immigrant confrontation. However, if the gun toter is possibly transgender, then perhaps he represents a threatened group by interpretation.
And by no means conclusive, this web page (for an article's contributor), suggests that James may indeed be trans, so might in fact perceive himself as threatened by the movement the hats represent: https://www.utdailybeacon.com/users/profile/jphill92/
But, it would also make him an activist on the left.
We didn't pull guns on them.
Our culture, despite the relentless press about WBC, consistently and repeatedly opposed them via our country's legitimate methods, by counter protests, by barriers of people to volunteer to show up to shield grieving families, soldiers' families, from seeing all that free speech.
Our democracy worked. The protesters, representing the most extreme minority in our vast land, even smaller than the gay population, were allowed to be obnoxiously visible and make their point, enjoying freedom probably far beyond the vision of the writers of our Constitution. And the same rights were afforded at the Lincoln Memorial recently when Black supremacists made horrible racist jibes and jeers in a public gathering, just as obnoxiously free to protest.
People were not condoned to approach them and threaten them by force of arms.
And to your point, this man is in jail and would appear to identify as white male, so he apparently isn't free for his actions, so there's that.
"Being bothered" is not the question at all. It's a question of making threats, in this case, with force of arms. And all of that before you address the question of whether MAGA can even be legitimately be considered to be derogatory in any way. This was a Tennessean menacing a pair of Kentuckians. Hardly an immigrant confrontation. However, if the gun toter is possibly transgender, then perhaps he represents a threatened group by interpretation.
And by no means conclusive, this web page (for an article's contributor), suggests that James may indeed be trans, so might in fact perceive himself as threatened by the movement the hats represent: https://www.utdailybeacon.com/users/profile/jphill92/
But, it would also make him an activist on the left.
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I might be mildly--perhaps even amusedly--annoyed, but I wouldn't attack him for it. Would my attack--verbal or physical--change his mind? Would it make me less annoyed? Not likely.Not worth the effort in either case.
Not worth more than a moment's attention. I have better uses of my thoughts and time.
Not worth more than a moment's attention. I have better uses of my thoughts and time.
NotHardUp1
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More importantly, is perceived offense going to be considered as a mitigating factor for acts of violence?
If I am a conservative Muslim man and a fellow Muslim's daughter parades around shamelessly, not wearing hijab, and actually showing her knees, and I allowed to pull out a knife and threaten her to get covered up, as she is intentionally offending my sense of propriety?
When does my right to take offense trump another's right to liberty and to live unmolested?
My theory is that the arrested man has other issues and this is an acting out, and overreaction, probably born of frustration just looking for a target. That may or may not have anything to do with the arrested possibly being a trans male and living in Tennessee and finding it more than challenging.
For the record, my LGBT Meetup group here is well mixed with about half women and men, and some trans members and even a bi or two mixed in. None yet have said much in our gatherings about any harassment here.
If I am a conservative Muslim man and a fellow Muslim's daughter parades around shamelessly, not wearing hijab, and actually showing her knees, and I allowed to pull out a knife and threaten her to get covered up, as she is intentionally offending my sense of propriety?
When does my right to take offense trump another's right to liberty and to live unmolested?
My theory is that the arrested man has other issues and this is an acting out, and overreaction, probably born of frustration just looking for a target. That may or may not have anything to do with the arrested possibly being a trans male and living in Tennessee and finding it more than challenging.
For the record, my LGBT Meetup group here is well mixed with about half women and men, and some trans members and even a bi or two mixed in. None yet have said much in our gatherings about any harassment here.