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What do you all think about fox hunting...???

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pat grimshaw said:
City dwellers in my country and yours hire 'pest managers' to manage pests with poison and rifle.

Country dwellers in your country manage pests on their own property in their own way.

Either way, the result is the same. Can't people manage their own property without busybodies sticking their nose it?
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OK - I live in the country, so I guess I will take this. Fox hunting has nothing to do with pest control - farmers have better methods of keeping foxes away. I told the farm who runs the land at the bottom of my garden (where there are currently sheep and lambs soon) that a fox had moved into the bottom of the garden - he did not call up the Surrey hunt to come deal with it, because what would a load of people on horses come and do about it - just ride around the his fields meaning his live stock would have to move. He just came back and redoubled the fencing in that part. Foxes tend to quit pretty quickly if they don't get lucky - they can normally find somewhere else to go and eat easily.

Anyway the hunts men are not typically the local farmers - they are just local posh people that want to ride around. It has nothing to do with management of land.
 
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pat grimshaw said:
Do they harm, disturb or intrude on to your property and/or lifestyle?
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Well they shut down the roads yes - in the past the one road in and out of the village has been blocked off by them hanging around for hours on their horses with their land rovers over the cricket green (in the past ripping up the pitch, meaning it had to be relaid mid season).
 
You demanded they relay the pitch. And you demanded the police give full access to the roads, didn't you?
 
pat grimshaw said:
You demanded they relay the pitch. And you demanded the police give full access to the roads, didn't you?
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The police were there with them - fox hunting or whatever they pretend they are doing instead of fox hunting (trail hunting) takes trumps over local peoples complaints.

I am not sure you understand the kind of people that go fox hunting pat - they don't care about anyone else, they are just a load of toffs that feel they are entitled to do as they please.
 
JohnnyAnger said:
...I am not sure you understand the kind of people that go fox hunting pat - they don't care about anyone else, they are just a load of toffs that feel they are entitled to do as they please.
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You may not like them as people but that doesn't give you the right to demand they be exterminated. I don't like Doctor Who, the Barmy Army, soccer hooligans, fat slags who spend all their dole money on booze, child rapists in Rotherham, those people in Lancashire who commit incest, the ditherers in Westminster and the two faced Emily Thornberry. We live in pluralist, multicultural welfare states and we have to tolerate each other.
 
This really has brought out the bunny huggers.

JohnnyAnger said:
I am not sure you understand the kind of people that go fox hunting pat - they don't care about anyone else, they are just a load of toffs that feel they are entitled to do as they please.
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Not so in my experience and, perhaps uniquely judging by as much of the foregoing as I can be bothered to read, I have actually been hunting. Most of the people taking part were farmers and ordinary country types. Great care was taken to hunt only where the landowners had consented and to make good any damage which was caused.
 
unloadonme said:
This really has brought out the bunny huggers.



Not so in my experience and, perhaps uniquely judging by as much of the foregoing as I can be bothered to read, I have actually been hunting. Most of the people taking part were farmers and ordinary country types. Great care was taken to hunt only where the landowner had consented and to make good any damage which was caused.
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Maybe they are just dicks on the Surrey and East Kent hunts then. But really taking part in the ritualistic killing of animals for no purpose outside of fun is just all a bit barbaric.

Predator control I have no problem with as it's an important part of ecological management. I just don't feel fox hunting has much of a place in ecological management.
 
I have to say that on our 200 acres of heaven.....no one is allowed to hunt for any animal.

Particularly as blood sport.

And our foxes are protected.

Period.
 
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JohnnyAnger said:
Anyway the hunts men are not typically the local farmers - they are just local posh people that want to ride around. It has nothing to do with management of land.
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Glad to see the thread clean and tidy.


Johnny I don't think their all posh people.;)
 
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What happened to this marvellous thread? The wonderful Camilla pictures vanished?
mikemizanin729 said:
Glad to see the thread clean and tidy.
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You mean you are happy that the Royal photographs are removed? Now you show your real face, bad boy!
 
I look at all some of the dog breeds— retrievers, pointers, setters and terriers.

They are bred to hunt. They intrinsically retrieve, point, set and terrorise. Not allowing them to retrieve, point, set and terrorise is turning them into toys.
 
pat grimshaw said:
I look at all some of the dog breeds— retrievers, pointers, setters and terriers.

They are bred to hunt. They intrinsically retrieve, point, set and terrorise. Not allowing them to retrieve, point, set and terrorise is turning them into toys.
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Yes, in fact dogs are bred to hunt. That's really nothing new to me.
Bassottos are bred to hunt …*what? You know it?
If you were an expert on hunting, you'd know it; but you don't own forestry, you presumably don't even live in an area where foxes live, and so you don't have any first hand information on that topic.
 
^ I don't have first hand information of dogs and how they express their basic instincts. So I don't intrude on dog owners and how they manage their personal property.
 
pat grimshaw said:
^ I don't have first hand information of dogs and allowing them to express their basic instincts so I don't intrude on dog owners and how they manage their personal property.
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Well, then everything is clear — talking to you on the topic hunting (irrespective whether fox hunting or hunting generally) is useless.
 
pat grimshaw said:
^ I don't have first hand information of dogs and how they express their basic instincts. So I don't intrude on dog owners and how they manage their personal property.
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So, when dog owners come along and allow their dogs to shit on your lawn then don't pick up after the dog, you don't say anything? Do you go out and pick up the shit yourself or just leave it to draw more animals to come sniffing at?
 
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