On Topic Discussion What do you think about bisexuals?

[Gentleheart]

I think this psychotherapist's response in an issue of Attitude magazine is a pretty good read concerning this topic.

Dear Joe,
I met my boyfriend about eight months ago and things have been going amazingly ever since. He told me he was bisexual the night we met and it didn't faze me at all, but now I've fallen completely in love with him and I'm worried about the future...

 

[mikemizanin729]

How is this nonsense still active?

 

[luckynumbah7]

«disgusting» might be an exaggeration, but being unimpressed/uninterested is absolutely not uncommon, and I'm quite sure there's a sufficient biological/Darwinian explanation for it; I'd say: nature has programmed that «large» is interpretable as «these breasts are producing milk ATM», and that again means that the chance to impregnate her are minimised, and so it's rather natural to be uninterested.

...Breast size is no indication of milk production, whether currently producing or the ability to produce. Tits being considered highly sexualized are part and parcel of cultural 'norms'. Which mean they shift. Not that long ago the cultural ideal was larger women size-wise - there used to be ads for edible powders and clothing to make you larger or look larger/rounder. Same kinds of shifts go with breast size.

I mean, yes, when someone is producing milk their bra size may go up a few numbers, but not usually by - that - much. Y'may be unawares, but nursing bras have pads in them to catch leaks, which also makes boobs look larger than they are.

 

[otters]

...Breast size is no indication of milk production, whether currently producing or the ability to produce. Tits being considered highly sexualized are part and parcel of cultural 'norms'. Which mean they shift. Not that long ago the cultural ideal was larger women size-wise - there used to be ads for edible powders and clothing to make you larger or look larger/rounder. Same kinds of shifts go with breast size.

I mean, yes, when someone is producing milk their bra size may go up a few numbers, but not usually by - that - much. Y'may be unawares, but nursing bras have pads in them to catch leaks, which also makes boobs look larger than they are.

I'm aware of many things, believe me, including the pads of nursing bras
And, I've not written that the size of a female's breast would in fact indicate milk production, but about (cisgender-male) perception, which is predominantly a biological/Darwinian program, certainly additionally influenced by «cultural norms».

 

[mikemizanin729]

 

[dereperez]

I think this psychotherapist's response in an issue of Attitude magazine is a pretty good read concerning this topic.

That is a great response. Love it.

 

[ElmosToe]

^ ^ agreed, excellent link.
interestingly, I have the exact same thoughts on it all, almost completely agree and it is much of what I have been saying or trying to say repeatedly on this board.

 

[cgymike]

Denial has reached a fever pitch on here.

 

[otters]

I think this psychotherapist's response in an issue of Attitude magazine is a pretty good read concerning this topic.

That is a great response. Love it.

^ ^ agreed, excellent link.
interestingly, I have the exact same thoughts on it all, almost completely agree and it is much of what I have been saying or trying to say repeatedly on this board.

I agree, too.

Denial has reached a fever pitch on here.

yaaaawwwwwnnnnn. your repeating of always the same song makes me yawn, cgy — and that just forces me to suggest: dust the record player and put a new LP on it.

 

[JPGhost]

http://www.wikihow.com/Date-a-Bisexual-Person

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

I wonder if constant biphobia is a bannable offense.

 

[mikemizanin729]

It should be.

 

[mikey3000]

Denial has reached a fever pitch on here.

Yes it has. No worries though, just admit you like both and embrace it. We'll still like you (well, maybe someone will). Ahh hahh! Just kidding. Maybe.

 

[peeonme]

I think this psychotherapist's response in an issue of Attitude magazine is a pretty good read concerning this topic.

That link and the rest of the web sight is great, thanks so much for sharing

 

[Kulindahr]

I think this psychotherapist's response in an issue of Attitude magazine is a pretty good read concerning this topic.

I went back and read that again, and this paragraph spiked me right in the heart:

Such definitions can drive people crazy. When someone can be fitted inside an either/or category, everyone breathes a sigh of relief. OK, you can be gay or straight, but if you are a real man, you can't be anywhere in between. We are too attached to a system of sexual identity labels that are being shown to be increasingly outdated.

I went to a psychologist when I finally realized I was going to have to face this thing I was finally having to admit I was. One of the first things he said was, "Stop trying to put yourself in a box -- you're you, and to hell with the boxes".

Labels aren't just bad for relations between individuals, they're bad for the individuals. Sure, if you fit comfortably in one without ay questions or qualms, have a label if you feel like it. But if you don't, well, to hell with the labels.

To all the people here who insist that the rest of us have to fit into their boxes, and conform to their labels, I have this to say:

Fuck you, and fuck the horse you rode in on. Go ride over a cliff and scream all the way down. And when you crash, maybe the world will be a better place.

 

[sokker]

You know why so many people have an issue with bisexual guys? Because they can't make up their damn minds.. I'm not saying everyone is like this, but I do think the stereotype is true to some extent. Like.. if a guy says he's gay, but later finds out he's bi and like girls too.. that sets the movement back because it gives homophobes the ammunition they need, like.. they'll start to think that gay people can change. At least bisexuals are honest though, I totally admire and respect them for that. I know a few gay guys.. well.. they said they were gay anyway, who continued to have sex with girls. I just find it baffling.

 

[cgymike]

^No. It is not a choice. When will you ever learn? Making up one's mind? Are you kidding me? A guy is blokey or not. Get it.

 

[otters]

^No. It is not a choice. When will you ever learn? Making up one's mind? Are you kidding me? A guy is blokey or not. Get it.

Would you be so kind to tell us what «bloke, blokey», in your idiosyncratic word usage, might mean in Standard English? Thank you so much.

 

[JohnnyAnger]

Would you be so kind to tell us what «bloke, blokey», in your idiosyncratic word usage, might mean in Standard English? Thank you so much.

It's pretty standard slang in the U.K. so I will take it (I am surprised it's used in the states though). A bloke is someone who fits the stereotypes of a man, with all the ideas of masculine interests that go along with that. It can just general mean a man though, without any of the trappings of stereotypes.

So being blokely is just being a stereotypical straight guy.

 

[sokker]

^No. It is not a choice. When will you ever learn? Making up one's mind? Are you kidding me? A guy is blokey or not. Get it.

I didn't say BEING bisexual is a choice. I say they can't make up their minds what they really want, what they're looking for in a partner. On the one hand you have confident, out bisexual guys who are monogamous. I know they exist. But on the other hand you have bisexual guys who don't really know what they want, and uses bisexuality as a catch all. I think they're the ones ruining it for all bisexuals by giving the stereotype that bisexuals are confused and/or cheaters.

But I'm not saying this relates to all bisexual guys. Heck, sometimes gay men can be just as bad. If a guy says he's gay, even has a boyfriend/fiance, but still fucks girls.. then he's not really gay, is he? I know someone this happened too, and it was fucked up.

I'm starting to wonder if it's not about bisexual guys, but more about guys being confused about who they are, so they just fuck everything up.