What if Britain had won?

[bankside]

spoils of war, bitches

as a consequence of the revolutionary war, America won dibs on the English language and the English measurement system, that's why England uses metric and spells things incorrectly

'cept canada gained back those rights for the Empire when we burnt down the White House in 1812. We got metric from France though since it is better. See? English and French working together: Canada!

Hmmm...I do enjoy subjective history.

I have to disagree slightly over the assumption that Canada and the US would have become one nation if the British had won the War of Independence. If only because, as history played out, Canada had no interest in joining up with any of the US colonies. (Think War of 1812.)

I think two nations would have continued to evolve out of the British Colonies, if only because of the presence of the Quebecois.
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...if the American colonists had been better behaved, we Canadians would have had no problem!

 

[kallipolis]

Britain, did win.

This was a British civil war that was won by British colonists, when confronting the military power of their own sovereign government.

The New England British colonists were able to secure their rights, granted to them under the Magna Carta, and in so doing ensure their rights as Britons (later, as Americans) to continue to live in freedom.

The British family of sovereign nations encircles this planet, reminding us that Britannia's colonial foundations (Canada/Australia/New Zealand/United States) is the glue that binds the English speaking nations to recognise all that they share in common.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

Britain, did win.

This was a British civil war that was won by British colonists, when confronting the military power of their own sovereign government.

The New England British colonists were able to secure their rights, granted to them under the Magna Carta, and in so doing ensure their rights as Britons (later, as Americans) to continue to live in freedom.

The British family of sovereign nations encircles this planet, reminding us that Britannia's colonial foundations (Canada/Australia/New Zealand/United States) is the glue that binds the English speaking nations to recognise all that they share in common.

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anyway me step outs ma place
anyway it interestin readin ta discover see how real little Universtiy do anythin past 500 years

 

[kallipolis]

interestin

? foundation? ans just one make write > alls da babys born all ova world is? include a this foundation - ans stuff what not include this a post

same ? go fa da French German dutch Spanis Portugese Russian Japaese Chinese Arabian India etc so on

anyway me step outs ma place
anyway it interestin readin ta discover see how real little Universtiy do anythin past 500 years

When one examines any set of circumstances from a non prejudicial perspective, the romantic revisionism of history that might be discovered in a Disney movie of the American Revolutionary War period, is replaced with facts that do not always appeal to those whose patriotism is based upon all that pleases their sense of national pride.

John Adams informs us that some 20/30 pct of the New England male combatants were fighting with loyalist militia (pro-British crown) against revolutionary forces. Even assuming that the lesser figure is correct, that does indicate that the Revolutionary War was much more a civil war that any thought of a struggle by the New England colonies for freedom against despotic rule by a foreign power. Although I appreciate that the New England colonies were to all intents, and purposes already independent of the mother country and that UK interests would have better served by acknowledging this fact of life.

It is also worth noting that the under populated southern colonies remained loyal to the British crown, and only after the signing of the Treaty of Paris, did the United Kingdom encourage/coerce the southern colonies into joining the United States.

A common language (despite humorous banter between the UK and the USA over this matter) does evidence that there is a real need for you to indulge us with your use of the English language so that we might better communicate. )

 

[ronboy]

FYI - New Brunswick is more bilingual than any other province/territory in Canada.

This is true. I've been to New Brunswick. I loved Moncton!

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

A common language (despite humorous banter between the UK and the USA over this matter) does evidence that there is a real need for you to indulge us with your use of the English language so that we might better communicate. )

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[Lord Booticus]

Conversely, you would find it incredibly difficult to find anyone within the United Kingdom who utilizes even two-thirds of the available consonants and vowels.

No you wouldn't.

spoils of war, bitches

as a consequence of the revolutionary war, America won dibs on the English language and the English measurement system, that's why England uses metric and spells things incorrectly

This was the biggest loss to the English people

 

[kallipolis]

not sure but if read wirte world be sayins fa centurys but da " cultures " nos pay micron interupt their cultures ta listen or micron interrupt their self absorbys ans stuff

anyway nice read stuff of folk nice visit porn site it aa most gratefuls

fa da porn dudes what with out no da site YAY!!!!!!!

I am saying that a common cultural (historical) heritage that is shared by the English speaking nations ensures that such countries share much more in common than that which appears to separate them from one another.

Our Canadian friends might be interested in knowing that the New England Revolutionary forces sent a certain Charles Carroll of Carrolltown (Catholic, co-signer of the Declaration of Independence, and one of the richest men in the colonies) to Quebec to encourage the Francophone communities to join them in their struggle against the British Crown.

Carroll returned empty handed. The French reminded Mr Carroll that the British Crown had granted the people of Quebec much more freedom, and control of their own affairs, than had the King of France. Furthermore the British Crown had also granted the Quebec people their freedom to practise Catholicism.

The French were well aware that the New England colonies were predominately populated with English Puritans, who had a well demonstrated hatred for all matters Catholic. The French were not going to risk their new found freedoms by accepting the sovereignty of extremist Protestants.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

I am saying that a common cultural (historical) heritage that is shared by the English speaking nations ensures that such countries share much more in common than that which appears to separate them from one another.

Our Canadian friends might be interested in knowing that the New England Revolutionary forces sent a certain Charles Carroll of Carrolltown (Catholic, co-signer of the Declaration of Independence, and one of the richest men in the colonies) to Quebec to encourage the Francophone communities to join them in their struggle against the British Crown.

Carroll returned empty handed. The French reminded Mr Carroll that the British Crown had granted the people of Quebec much more freedom, and control of their own affairs, than had the King of France. Furthermore the British Crown had also granted the Quebec people their freedom to practise Catholicism.

The French were well aware that the New England colonies were predominately populated with English Puritans, who had a well demonstrated hatred for all matters Catholic. The French were not going to risk their new found freedoms by accepting the sovereignty of extremist Protestants.

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[Kyanimal]

Bottom line, Guys! Who owns the most real estate, and corporate holdings, in the USof A?

Though they're gaining ground, it's not, yet, China!

The Brits may have "lost" The Revolution, but they've certainly "won", more than enough, in the end!

Keep smilin'!!
Chaz

 

[kallipolis]

Sloppy:

I appreciate that the planet Earth is populated by one race of people, otherwise known as the human race.

Nevertheless poor communication skills can create barriers that are responsible for misunderstandings.

I rather suspect that my diplomatic touch could well entice you to appreciate that communication needs a lingua franca. English works very well in this respect. Any chance that we might expect you to participate with some good will by using the English language?

 

[gsdx]

The French were not going to risk their new found freedoms by accepting the sovereignty of extremist Protestants.

Not all of them. Those Maritime French Acadians who refused to pledge allegiance to Britain were sent off to Louisiana. They took their French customs and cuisine and began their new lives there. They're still there. You call them 'Cajuns' (from 'Acadians' which is pronounced 'a-CAY-DJYENS').

 

[kallipolis]

Not all of them. Those Maritime French Acadians who refused to pledge allegiance to Britain were sent off to Louisiana. They took their French customs and cuisine and began their new lives there. They're still there. You call them 'Cajuns' (from 'Acadians' which is pronounced 'a-CAY-DJYENS').

That was generous of the British. The Spanish Conquistadores would have killed them.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

Sloppy:

I appreciate that the planet Earth is populated by one race of people, otherwise known as the human race.

Nevertheless poor communication skills can create barriers that are responsible for misunderstandings.

I rather suspect that my diplomatic touch could well entice you to appreciate that communication needs a lingua franca. English works very well in this respect. Any chance that we might expect you to participate with some good will by using the English language?

me go cry now > Nevertheless poor communication skills can create barriers that are responsible for misunderstandings< Humans got all communications skills need fa eons BUTTTTT

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[kallipolis]

^I'll mail you a box of Kleenex.

 

[gsdx]

That was generous of the British. The Spanish Conquistadores would have killed them.

Canada switched hands several times over the years. When the British finally gained permanent rule, they gave the French the option to stay or to leave. After all, they were there first (in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia). Britain had issues with France; not with their newest subjects. They were treated very fairly. Those who wished to return to France were granted passage back 'home'. Those who wanted to remain in the New World either had to pledge allegiance to the British Crown or ship out to the Louisiana territory and settle there instead.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

^I'll mail you a box of Kleenex.

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[Knucklehead]

'cept canada gained back those rights for the Empire when we burnt down the White House in 1812. !

British troops burned down the White House not Canadians.

 

[gsdx]

British troops burned down the White House not Canadians.

Well Canada was the United Kingdom. I'm sure some Canadians enlisted.

Remember, this was only 36 years after American independence and Canada was still a colony. Its population consisted of a lot of French and English colonists, but it also was populated by a huge number of 'Loyalists' who were former American colonists remained loyal to The Crown and fought for the British during the Revolutionary War. When the war ended, the Loyalists expelled from the new United States with little more than the shirts on their backs. A small portion returned to England, but a majority of them travelled north into Canada.

(My direct ancestor was one of them to do so. The rest of his family, who fought for the Patriots, remained behind. Families often divided their sons to fight for either one or the other. That way, there would always be one on the winning side.)

The Loyalists were well suited to fighting and were backed up by British soldiers who had been stationed in Canada. They hardly constituted an army, which is why the colonists did most of the fighting since a majority of the British soldiers remained behind to defend the colonists.

On top of that, the Natives of Ontario took up arms with the colonists and helped to defend their lands. They didn't care for the same thing to happen to them as happened south of the border.

So, in effect, it was Canadians who burned down the White House.

Following the War of 1812, people in Canada began negotiations with England to become a self-governing nation. The process was slow even though England wasn't averse to the idea. It would relieve the burden of trying to protect such a huge land mass. The process sped up immensely following the American Civil War and the threat to Canada became a serious reality.

So, it is because of 2 American wars that Canada became a nation.

Oh, and one more thing: Canada remains the only nation in the world to win a war against the United States.

 

[SDR117]

The United States was going to become independent, one way or another. The colonists would not have stopped being pissed and dropped the independence spirit.

So it was not a question of if, but when.

Amen. I agree.

“We lost the American colonies because we lacked the statesmanship to know the right time and the manner of yielding what is impossible to keep.”
-Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom​