What if you disagree with doc

[unloadonme]

Most GP's are glorified pill pushers and are far from infallible. If you're not happy, go back and discuss the proposed treatment with him. If he fails to convince you, ask to be referred for a second opinion.

 

[anxiouscase]

i'm back with him Thursday..no more pills. He doesnt want to reffer..his problem.

 

[anxiouscase]

not a bad idea

there are gay specific issues we deal with others dont. i'm not saying this is the case here though

After checking him out on ratemds.com , i changed my mind. seems like a major idiot.

 

[collegecutie222]

the drug he gave you is one that's used pretty commonly for individuals with general anxiety or panic disorder. its not strictly an antidepressant.

from what I've read here though it sounds like you're not to hot on the idea of drugs and that he may not have addressed your concerns. second opinion is the way to go

 

[anxiouscase]

do doctors make money for prescribing drugs?

 

[blackbeltninja]

I have problems with sleep and anxiousness but I am not depressed. Like I feel I could do anything and have ambition if I could just get some sleep.

I just hate that I said few words and he jumped to the drugs so fast.

Antidepressants are often used as a light course just to help break the insomnia and knock you out so you can get the sleep you need. I suspect that's why he jumped to them so quickly.

I feel I have more possible personality disorders...some paranoia/avoidance issues..but I am a pretty damn happy and ambition guy. And yes this medicine is for mood and depression, panic disorder, ocd) So it does help with calming down..but i dont think thats my main issue.

I'm pretty certain i'm not depressed.

I think your main issue is you're self-diagnosing. If this guy is as good as everyone says he is - we don't have an online doctor-rating website here in .za, so this is new to me - give him a chance to do his thing. I'm doing my degree in a medical department and every doctor here will tell you the most annoying thing in the world is a patient who truly thinks he knows what's wrong with him and simply wants the doc to agree.

You've said he's the pro and you're not, so let him be the pro. And give the drugs a chance to work and evaluate from there - you won't necessarily see results immediately, so you have to be a little patient.

As an aside, citalopram has many uses. We're currently using it to try to adjust antiobiotic/antimalarial resistance, with some success.

-d-

 

[anxiouscase]

With all due respect, blackninja..stfu

First off all, he is a GP, not a specialist. So should he be smarter than me? Yes. But does he know everything? No.

This is my health, not his. I look at him and he looks sleep deprived way more than me...so why isn't he taking something?

There is no way if hell that in 5mins he can properly diagnose what I have when I have a very complex background..NO WAY. I'm not interested in experimentation.

 

[celtboy]

should i suggest to him i had some bad side-affect and tell him once again then id rather just get full evaluation from psychiatrist?

No need to make anything up. Just tell him that you are not comfortable leaping on to the psychopharmacological bandwagon as a first course of treatment.

Definitely insist on a referral to any form of counselling you feel would be beneficial. An ex of mine used to say: "when your head hurts, go to a head doctor."

I hope it all works out for you. Be strong!

 

[Kennylingus]

I was always really naive when it came to taking pills my doctors have perscribed to me, but then about eight months ago I was put on an anti-depressant that gave me a priapism.
For those of you who don't know, that's when you get wood that just won't go away. I woke up with a boner and rubbed one out and it was still there an hour later. About six hours and I think the count was eight orgasms later it was still there. So I got to go to the ER and have about fifteen different doctors and nurses examine my wang and make some really akward small talk. They even used the ultra-sound machine on it...the same one they use on pregnant women. Then they stabbed my dick in four different places and drained the blood out.

I go to my doctor a few days after that and tell him what happened and he tells me that it's rare, but with these kind of medications there usually is a small risk of it, but we should have much better luck on this new medication he's going to perscribe for me.

I don't take anything I don't want to from a doctor anymore and you shouldn't either. You're the one who'll get fucked up in the end and a dirty little secret that no one seems to mention is that everyone's different and with any of these ind of medications it's always trial and error to a degree.

 

[anxiouscase]

I was always really naive when it came to taking pills my doctors have perscribed to me, but then about eight months ago I was put on an anti-depressant that gave me a priapism.
For those of you who don't know, that's when you get wood that just won't go away. I woke up with a boner and rubbed one out and it was still there an hour later. About six hours and I think the count was eight orgasms later it was still there. So I got to go to the ER and have about fifteen different doctors and nurses examine my wang and make some really akward small talk. They even used the ultra-sound machine on it...the same one they use on pregnant women. Then they stabbed my dick in four different places and drained the blood out.

I go to my doctor a few days after that and tell him what happened and he tells me that it's rare, but with these kind of medications there usually is a small risk of it, but we should have much better luck on this new medication he's going to perscribe for me.

I don't take anything I don't want to from a doctor anymore and you shouldn't either. You're the one who'll get fucked up in the end and a dirty little secret that no one seems to mention is that everyone's different and with any of these ind of medications it's always trial and error to a degree.

oh wow, so sorry to hear that. i hope everything is well now? the medication i was given had that potential side-affect as well.

 

[guesshoo]

First off...I am not a doctor... But I am a registered nurse. The pill your doctor wants you to take is a very mild form of treatment.
As for side affects....If most people researched the side affects of most any medications they wouldn't take them.The makers of these drugs list all possible affects of any medication to cover themselves.
It does not mean that you will have any of the listed side affects.
As for the doctor, If he had spent an hour with you and listened to every word you had to say the results may have been the same or possible that he might would have even gave you more meds.
Then again he may have done nothing . In which case you would have felt he did nothing to help you.
You didn't mention if you take any over the counter energy pills or drink any type energy drinks such as red bull and the list goes on. These type pills and drinks affect people in many ways because of the extreme high cafine
and sugar content along with all the other chemicals.

 

[rareboy]

I go to my doctor a few days after that and tell him what happened and he tells me that it's rare, but with these kind of medications there usually is a small risk of it, but we should have much better luck on this new medication he's going to perscribe for me.

Oh settle down.

Your doctor should have advised you of the side effects.

The pharmacist should have advised you of the side effects.

You are an adult. You should have asked about side effects of anything you take if they don't offer the information.

Priapism is a rare but certainly not unknown side effect.

 

[Kennylingus]

oh wow, so sorry to hear that. i hope everything is well now? the medication i was given had that potential side-affect as well.

Everything's fine now, I'm just very cautious of what I take.

 

[Kennylingus]

Oh settle down.

Your doctor should have advised you of the side effects.

The pharmacist should have advised you of the side effects.

You are an adult. You should have asked about side effects of anything you take if they don't offer the information.

Priapism is a rare but certainly not unknown side effect.

Thanks so much. I was getting out of control until you showed up and stated the obvious.

Like I said, I used to be naive. Used to as in not anymore.

So settle down.

 

[CudDULL]

Yes its okay to disagree with your doctor. You have to talk to him and explain to him exactly how you feel about these prescriptions and what you think may be wrong. Don't just let him tell you whats wrong with you.

 

[anxiouscase]

As for the doctor, If he had spent an hour with you and listened to every word you had to say the results may have been the same or possible that he might would have even gave you more meds.
Then again he may have done nothing . In which case you would have felt he did nothing to help you.

If he had spent that time, I may still look for a second opinion, but I'd have great respect for his approach and I'd say he's done his job.

All I want is a proper evaluation because I see my issue as more complex than just some anxiety. I have a very complex and long list of issues dating back to my past. Right now I am not a functioning part of society imo.

 

[blackbeltninja]

With all due respect, blackninja..stfu

First off all, he is a GP, not a specialist. So should he be smarter than me? Yes. But does he know everything? No.

This is my health, not his. I look at him and he looks sleep deprived way more than me...so why isn't he taking something?

There is no way if hell that in 5mins he can properly diagnose what I have when I have a very complex background..NO WAY. I'm not interested in experimentation.

With as much respect as you think is due to you, his education and experience mean that in fact he probably can make a decent diagnosis in 5 minutes. Our GP programmes here in .za are pretty good, and having a good general knowledge without being a specialist is kinda the point of a GP. Otherwise they wouldn't exist and wouldn't be the starting point for your nation's healthcare system.

The fact here is not whether or not he knows everything, but whether he knows more than you do. Unless they simply hand out medical degrees to anyone who smiles nicely enough over in your neck of the woods, you need to admit that perhaps he does know what he's doing. Your research/online check thing you did indicates that everyone else out there seems to think he is all "wow!" so what does that tell you?

What will be ironic is when you finally get to a high-end psychiatrist and he gives you a full work-up and then says "you're depressed; take this SSRI." I sincerely hope that if that does happen you have the balls to pop back in here and admit you were wrong.

-d-

 

[mbamike]

If you disagree with your GP, go get a second opinion. They are professionals and will not be insulted.

 

[anxiouscase]

With as much respect as you think is due to you, his education and experience mean that in fact he probably can make a decent diagnosis in 5 minutes. Our GP programmes here in .za are pretty good, and having a good general knowledge without being a specialist is kinda the point of a GP. Otherwise they wouldn't exist and wouldn't be the starting point for your nation's healthcare system.

The fact here is not whether or not he knows everything, but whether he knows more than you do. Unless they simply hand out medical degrees to anyone who smiles nicely enough over in your neck of the woods, you need to admit that perhaps he does know what he's doing. Your research/online check thing you did indicates that everyone else out there seems to think he is all "wow!" so what does that tell you?

What will be ironic is when you finally get to a high-end psychiatrist and he gives you a full work-up and then says "you're depressed; take this SSRI." I sincerely hope that if that does happen you have the balls to pop back in here and admit you were wrong.

-d-

I think you should see this:

Doctors Are The Third Leading Cause of Death in the US, Killing 225,000 People Every Year

ALL THESE ARE DEATHS PER YEAR:
12,000 -- unnecessary surgery
7,000 -- medication errors in hospitals
20,000 -- other errors in hospitals
80,000 -- infections in hospitals
106,000 -- non-error, negative effects of drugs

 

[blackbeltninja]

Countering your point with some stats from my own field - malaria kills 1 million people in the 3rd world every year while doctors making quick 5-minute diagnoses manage to save the other 300 million who present with the disease.

And surely if those stats are your concern you should see a homeopath or a faith-healer, or maybe get yourself a course of leeches.

-d-