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What is a 'gay man?', an article I'm writing

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What is a gay man?

A gay man is a different gender of humans, a combination of male and female genders. Gay men aren't men, but they aren't women, either - we gay men are in a class of our own. This mixture is simply a natural occurrence in nature, and all part of the diversity of life. Gay men can't go away or 'stop being gay' because, we are just a part of nature. And we were born with brains and body chemistry that are a mixture of two genders, observe any gay man and you can see how obviously true this is.

gay men are usually born with:

A female's heart, female emotions

more sensitive than other males, whether this is in a 'receptive way' or a projecting way, ie the macho bully archtype, gay guys let things 'get under their skin' more than most ppl.

A sex drive that's exactly like a straight man's, ie we like nasty throat fucks and spit and hot nasty sex for sex's sake stuff

The possibility to be just as macho as straight guys, but obviously it's not as pure, even if a gay man is good at sports and masculine-stuff, he still almost always knows how to write well and do gender atypical stuff.

Enjoy tv shows like charmed, buffy and xena, and stuff about superheroes. Enjoy lifetime television.

Great aesthetic eye for fashion and visual stimulants. Being addicted to pornography is common, as well as higher increase for drug and alcohol addiction and all forms of addiction.

Understand ideals very well, and philosophy and psychology. Natural brain for that sort of stuff. Not as good with mechanical stuff, generally.

Higher level of intuition, empathy, creativity. Lower levels of violence and aggression.

Isn't as adventurous as straight men, doesn't 'explore' a lot, unless it's for a sexual thrill. Prefers stability and peace. Great at making music because 'getting lost in one's own introversion' is great for making music, as well as writing.

Sure, gay men may have a lot of masculine qualities, and we do- but we also always have a lot more female qualities in us, unlike regular men. This is natural and explains why gay dudes love being taken care of and 'swept off our feet' like women do.

((Straight guys don't talk about their feelings all Oprah-like like gay men do, sorry they just don't. they are tougher, because they are more man than you- but this shouldn't be viewed as a negative thing either. Gay guys are just DIFFERENT, and that's OKAY.))


Therefore it's pointless to get defensive over stereotypes since stereotypes are based on truth. However, it is hurtful when people mock gays because they are exaggerating our natural girlishness. this can be funny but at the same time nobody likes to always be the joke, so instead of getting all emo about it tho, just do it back to straight guys. =)
 
I think you're trying to make it simple, but you're actually generalizing. Sexuality is EXTREMELY diverse and complex.

Not all gay men feel like women. Not all women are in touch with their feelings. And most gay guys feel affected by things because they're bullied and discriminated for being gay!

But I've met a lot of gay guys who are more masculine than straight guys. Me and my brother, for example. He cries all the time, over the most stupid things, and I'm more insensitive. Yet, I'm the one who likes dick.
 
It's also a myth that gay guys can't 'turn you on as much' just because they are more female. It just doesn't work that way, at least for me, Ie I'm very much sexually attracted to gay male porn stars that have this quality in them. I can be attracted to straight guys too of course, but it's not the 'gayness' that is attracting nor repulsing me. That's just kinda who we are.

I'm turned on by: John Galt, Gus Mattox, and other men who clearly are 'swishier' than regular men. They turn me on cuz they are hot, not because they drink gatorade and call each other 'dude.' (but in turn, this isn't a 'turn off' either)

I just don't get people's weird issues.

oh and yeah it's a given that sexuality is on a spectrum, but why do so many gay men report not being able to throw and catch well? Stereotypes are mostly factual.
 
slnattak said:
What is a gay man?

A gay man is a different gender of humans, a combination of male and female genders. Gay men aren't men, but they aren't women, either - we gay men are in a class of our own. This mixture is simply a natural occurrence in nature, and all part of the diversity of life. Gay men can't go away or 'stop being gay' because, we are just a part of nature. And we were born with brains and body chemistry that are a mixture of two genders, observe any gay man and you can see how obviously true this is.

.....

((Straight guys don't talk about their feelings all Oprah-like like gay men do, sorry they just don't. they are tougher, because they are more man than you- but this shouldn't be viewed as a negative thing either. Gay guys are just DIFFERENT, and that's OKAY.))


Therefore it's pointless to get defensive over stereotypes since stereotypes are based on truth. However, it is hurtful when people mock gays because they are exaggerating our natural girlishness. this can be funny but at the same time nobody likes to always be the joke, so instead of getting all emo about it tho, just do it back to straight guys. =)
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Gay men are not another gender, we are men.
Straight guys do talk about their feelings, and no straight man is "more man" than anybody here.
"Gay guys are just DIFFERENT" sure, as everybody is different from one another. And of course that's okay.
Stereotypes are NOT base on truth. Stereotypes are based on people's believes about something they can't explain.
natural girlishness? There is no such thing. Everybody is in part woman that's why men are xy and not yy (genetically speaking), gay men are xy as well by the way.

if I were you I'd think of it a bit more instead of generalizing as much, especially if you're writing an article.
 
slnattak said:
What is a gay man?

A gay man is a different gender of humans, a combination of male and female genders. Gay men aren't men, but they aren't women, either - we gay men are in a class of our own. This mixture is simply a natural occurrence in nature, and all part of the diversity of life. Gay men can't go away or 'stop being gay' because, we are just a part of nature. And we were born with brains and body chemistry that are a mixture of two genders, observe any gay man and you can see how obviously true this is.

gay men are usually born with:

A female's heart, female emotions

more sensitive than other males, whether this is in a 'receptive way' or a projecting way, ie the macho bully archtype, gay guys let things 'get under their skin' more than most ppl.

A sex drive that's exactly like a straight man's, ie we like nasty throat fucks and spit and hot nasty sex for sex's sake stuff

The possibility to be just as macho as straight guys, but obviously it's not as pure, even if a gay man is good at sports and masculine-stuff, he still almost always knows how to write well and do gender atypical stuff.

Enjoy tv shows like charmed, buffy and xena, and stuff about superheroes. Enjoy lifetime television.

Great aesthetic eye for fashion and visual stimulants. Being addicted to pornography is common, as well as higher increase for drug and alcohol addiction and all forms of addiction.

Understand ideals very well, and philosophy and psychology. Natural brain for that sort of stuff. Not as good with mechanical stuff, generally.

Higher level of intuition, empathy, creativity. Lower levels of violence and aggression.

Isn't as adventurous as straight men, doesn't 'explore' a lot, unless it's for a sexual thrill. Prefers stability and peace. Great at making music because 'getting lost in one's own introversion' is great for making music, as well as writing.

Sure, gay men may have a lot of masculine qualities, and we do- but we also always have a lot more female qualities in us, unlike regular men. This is natural and explains why gay dudes love being taken care of and 'swept off our feet' like women do.

((Straight guys don't talk about their feelings all Oprah-like like gay men do, sorry they just don't. they are tougher, because they are more man than you- but this shouldn't be viewed as a negative thing either. Gay guys are just DIFFERENT, and that's OKAY.))


Therefore it's pointless to get defensive over stereotypes since stereotypes are based on truth. However, it is hurtful when people mock gays because they are exaggerating our natural girlishness. this can be funny but at the same time nobody likes to always be the joke, so instead of getting all emo about it tho, just do it back to straight guys. =)
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Lawdy, Lawdy! Have we fallen into the pit of stereotypes.

MrBubulino said:
I think you're trying to make it simple, but you're actually generalizing. Sexuality is EXTREMELY diverse and complex.

Not all gay men feel like women. Not all women are in touch with their feelings. And most gay guys feel affected by things because they're bullied and discriminated for being gay!

But I've met a lot of gay guys who are more masculine than straight guys. Me and my brother, for example. He cries all the time, over the most stupid things, and I'm more insensitive. Yet, I'm the one who likes dick.
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You've got the cart before the horse. Gays and other sensitive people are bullied because it does affect them. Much the same as trolls on this site who start something then sit back and watch the "fun", the bullies torment those who will react with the crying and fear and such. They want to see the reaction. That is why they don't bother so much with those who don't appear to be affected. That would be like trying to tickle a brick wall, its just boring.

As to the OP's question: Gay men are, for the most part, still men. They have individual lives and individual personalities, as different from each other as Straight men are from each other.
 
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i think any professor would be most displeased to read what you have written.:confused:

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While I think some of your statements are a little over the top, I think for the most part you are quite correct.

It's just something that gay men don't want to hear.
 
slnattak said:
What is a gay man?

A gay man is a different gender of humans, a combination of male and female genders. Gay men aren't men, but they aren't women, either - we gay men are in a class of our own. This mixture is simply a natural occurrence in nature, and all part of the diversity of life. Gay men can't go away or 'stop being gay' because, we are just a part of nature. And we were born with brains and body chemistry that are a mixture of two genders, observe any gay man and you can see how obviously true this is.

gay men are usually born with:

A female's heart, female emotions

Probably the majority are, yes.

more sensitive than other males, whether this is in a 'receptive way' or a projecting way, ie the macho bully archtype, gay guys let things 'get under their skin' more than most ppl.

Sort of, more expressive

A sex drive that's exactly like a straight man's, ie we like nasty throat fucks and spit and hot nasty sex for sex's sake stuff

Yes.

The possibility to be just as macho as straight guys, but obviously it's not as pure, even if a gay man is good at sports and masculine-stuff, he still almost always knows how to write well and do gender atypical stuff.

Pretty much.

Enjoy tv shows like charmed, buffy and xena, and stuff about superheroes. Enjoy lifetime television.

I'd say Glee and True Blood also

Great aesthetic eye for fashion and visual stimulants. Being addicted to pornography is common, as well as higher increase for drug and alcohol addiction and all forms of addiction.

Addiction relates to the difficult upbringing and issues of self loating that many gay men have

Understand ideals very well, and philosophy and psychology. Natural brain for that sort of stuff. Not as good with mechanical stuff, generally.

Kind of

Higher level of intuition, empathy, creativity. Lower levels of violence and aggression.

YEs

Isn't as adventurous as straight men, doesn't 'explore' a lot, unless it's for a sexual thrill. Prefers stability and peace. Great at making music because 'getting lost in one's own introversion' is great for making music, as well as writing.

I dont' see that.

Sure, gay men may have a lot of masculine qualities, and we do- but we also always have a lot more female qualities in us, unlike regular men. This is natural and explains why gay dudes love being taken care of and 'swept off our feet' like women do.

((Straight guys don't talk about their feelings all Oprah-like like gay men do, sorry they just don't. they are tougher, because they are more man than you- but this shouldn't be viewed as a negative thing either. Gay guys are just DIFFERENT, and that's OKAY.))


Therefore it's pointless to get defensive over stereotypes since stereotypes are based on truth. However, it is hurtful when people mock gays because they are exaggerating our natural girlishness. this can be funny but at the same time nobody likes to always be the joke, so instead of getting all emo about it tho, just do it back to straight guys. =)
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Overall this is fairly accurate. Of course, not everything applies to everyone, but as a general trend, I'd have to agree. Stereotypes are based on truth.
 
I suspect that you arrived at your opinion by this logic:

1) I (the OP) am a sterotypical gay man
2) I (the OP) know other stereotypical gay men
3) I (the OP) know no gay men who are particularly non-stereotypical
4) I (the OP) could not imagine myself ever being a non-stereotypical gay man

-> Therefore non-stereotypical gay men do not exist.

But, consider this argument which a straight man living in Alaska might construct:

1) I (Joe the Plumber) am a straight man
2) I (Joe the Plumber) know other straight men
3) I (Joe the Plumber) know no men who are not straight
4) I (Joe the Plumber) could not imagine myself ever being non-straight

-> Therefore non-straight men do not exist.

Hopefully, we all agree that Joe the Plumber's reasoning would be flawed. You probably think I'm oversimplifying your thought process, but the point that I'm trying to illustrate is that you can't prove that something doesn't exist based on the argument that you haven't personally experienced it. Straight men are not qualified to talk about the sexual identity of gay men, and stereotypical gay men are not qualified to talk about the gender identity (or existence) of non-stereotypical gay men. I think you should restructure this as a story about your personal gender identity, rather than trying to construct an argument based on your personal experiences and your belief that stereotypes are usually true. People like to hear personal stories - it's refreshing, and it makes things more relatable. People who don't know a gay man would feel one step closer to having a gay friend :)
 
^I agree that his weakest points are when he gets too specific (not every gay man likes Buffy, or even Glee), but he's spot on when he's more general (gay men let things get under their skin more easily, for example).

I mean, why would you respond otherwise? ;)
 
I don't agree with you. I am a masculine man who enjoys having sex with other men. I don't act girlish. I am not a different gender. My gender is male. I have a cock and testicles.

However, I do have a huge appetite for sex which has grown since I started having sex with men. I just can't get enough cock!

I do care about people, but I just considered that to being a good human being.

I could care less about fashion. I prefer jeans and t-shirts or nothing at all.

I think you need to do more research before submitting your article.
 
female heart, female emotions.. lol. no.

thanks for putting me and my straight friends into our respective boxes.
 
slnattak said:
What is a gay man?

A gay man is a different gender of humans, a combination of male and female genders. Gay men aren't men, but they aren't women, either - we gay men are in a class of our own. This mixture is simply a natural occurrence in nature, and all part of the diversity of life. Gay men can't go away or 'stop being gay' because, we are just a part of nature. And we were born with brains and body chemistry that are a mixture of two genders, observe any gay man and you can see how obviously true this is.

gay men are usually born with:

A female's heart, female emotions
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This is as far as I got before I said to myself, "Is this guy serious?" Most of your obvious observations don't apply to me, nor do they apply to most of the gay people I've met in my life.

What did you do? Google 'gay stereotypes' and do a Copy/Paste thing?

Now I'm going to read the responses and see if Jasun has posted. That should be good for a laugh. Jasun. . . not a man. . . yeah, right.
 
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