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What is new on the Gay Marriage front?

Rolyo85 said:
Yeah, you are actually probably right. Wasn't he famous for bursting in tears when gay marriage passed in NY?
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That image is recycled a lot, yeah, especially by JMG.

We are seeing more of his hate come out now that NOM has nothing better to do than twiddle its thumbs on the marriage issue. Brown has expanded onto fighting gender identity rights, ENDA, and everything else in the kitchen sink.
 
Rolyo85 said:
Sad, empty existence. Have you read "Bigot Christmas" by Dan Savage btw? Where he describes that famous debate dinner he threw for Brown? I loved it.
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No, but I will look for it.

Wow he's like 50 and looks great for his age.

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Oh is it a book titled "American Savage."
 
Who, Savage? He's hot. Too bad he's a top, but I would be MORE than satisfied with his husband, after I saw the swimwear photoshoot of him ^_^

Sorry, channeling other forum members for a second there... I am not sure if it's available online, I bought Savage's latest book - American Savage - and it was there.
 
scream4ever said:
Personally I think these statistics are off but here's a look at the next states poised to have same-sex marriage:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...states-to-legalize-marriage-equality-20131127

Colorado is very likely to soon announce they will move to put the issue on the ballot in 2014.
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Yeah those statistics are silly. We all know it's 100% chance in all 50 states. Okay, maybe not right away, but they were still completely made up. New Mexico is not 3-2 likely. It is very likely, and so is Oregon. I put New Mexico as topping 95% that they will return judgment in favor of same sex marriage based on the arguments that I myself witnessed in court on October 23.

This I will say, it is going to be harder for the media to get the facts right with so much going on. They will have journalists who really aren't experienced writing about the topic prognosticating on events and giving incorrect details and using incorrect terminology.

For information, I would stick to news from the organizations actually doing the work, or primary sources such as government documents, court orders, etc. Of course, we will do a hefty bit of reporting here trying to establish the most accurate information and best guesses as to the future.
 
chrisrobin said:
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Dolan: Catholics 'outmarketed' on gay marriage

Wasn't Dolan the one who won't let us march in the St. Patrick's Day parade in NYC?


Outmarketed? Why don't you contact J. Walter Thompson. You can afford it.


Actually, you can blame individuals who love their partners. Love has nothing to do with either politicians or Hollywood. You're just looking for someone to blame.

I know it won't, but don't tell Pope Francis. [-X

Your eminence, please check the part of the U.S. Constitution which reads, "Equal protection under the law." If you can forgive me for being gay, I'll disregard the Spanish Inquisition.
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The Roman church has never been very good at reading the Bible. Despite supposedly admitting their error, they still want to be in charge not just of Christianity, but of every government they can manage to control.
 
Alnitak said:
Yeah those statistics are silly. We all know it's 100% chance in all 50 states. Okay, maybe not right away, but they were still completely made up. New Mexico is not 3-2 likely. It is very likely, and so is Oregon. I put New Mexico as topping 95% that they will return judgment in favor of same sex marriage based on the arguments that I myself witnessed in court on October 23.

This I will say, it is going to be harder for the media to get the facts right with so much going on. They will have journalists who really aren't experienced writing about the topic prognosticating on events and giving incorrect details and using incorrect terminology.

For information, I would stick to news from the organizations actually doing the work, or primary sources such as government documents, court orders, etc. Of course, we will do a hefty bit of reporting here trying to establish the most accurate information and best guesses as to the future.
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If all the young people would get out and vote, in Oregon we could amend the state constitution to recognize whatever people decided was marriage if they loved each other and were consenting adults.
 
Virginia will likely beat Oregon, since the district court has a democratic appointed judge and is known for being very fast (the average length of time from filing to decision is only 1 year), and also due to the fact that Democrats have taken every statewide office, no one will appeal such a decision.
 
scream4ever said:
Virginia will likely beat Oregon, since the district court has a democratic appointed judge and is known for being very fast (the average length of time from filing to decision is only 1 year), and also due to the fact that Democrats have taken every statewide office, no one will appeal such a decision.
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Sevcik could also make Oregon's ballot initiative a symbolic repeal rather than an effective one.
 
Things to look forward to this week

  • Hawaii marriage license applications start at midnight.
  • Also tomorrow, the Utah case Kitchen v. Herbert goes in for a hearing on summary judgment.
  • Wednesday, final reply briefs are due in Sevcik v. Sandoval, the Nevada case currently under appeal. Court dates should be scheduled shortly after.
  • And we are still waiting on the New Mexico Supreme Court
 
Alnitak said:
Sevcik could also make Oregon's ballot initiative a symbolic repeal rather than an effective one.
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I can't recall the issue, but Oregon has done double whammies like that before, sinking something both in the courts and by vote of the people.

It gives us a chance to comment on how sometimes the courts are as smart as the people.... :D

But besides that, it's nice to clear away the crap from the law books -- unlike in some southern states that still have laws on the books that the Supreme Court deep-sixed.
 
Kulindahr said:
I can't recall the issue, but Oregon has done double whammies like that before, sinking something both in the courts and by vote of the people.

It gives us a chance to comment on how sometimes the courts are as smart as the people.... :D
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Any state is free to codify common law, at any time. The Southern States all have eventually passed their own bans on slavery, civil rights laws, and repeals on anti-miscegenation. I suspect a similar delay will occur for sodomy laws and marriage bans in Southern States.

States such as Oregon will do it much sooner, obviously, and I think California really ought to do it symbolically in 2016. I think the vote would top 60%.
 
Current status..

19 countries, 695 million people, and 9.7% of the world's population.

16 US states and eight counties of New Mexico, 119 million Americans, and 37.58% of the US population.

These marriages may also be registered in Israel.

Many more to come :D
 
Kulindahr said:
That's got to really piss off the fundies.
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Actually I've never seen it mentioned in any right wing article, perhaps only when the Supreme Court of Israel instituted that rule in 2006, but not since. Israel does not have civil marriage, so to make the law fair they said outside marriages could be registered.
 
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