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What is new on the Gay Marriage front?

Alnitak said:
Well for example the section titled "A case with all the angles" elaborates on the many issues this case brings, not just the state's DOMA but Section 2, adoption, joint custody, and federal benefits. It's very important that cases involve children as that disarms a lot of the defense that the other side tries to get away with. Not every current lawsuit involves that many issues or is led by a powerful legal team, and some of the "40" or so don't actually attack state DOMA laws entirely. By my count only 24 of them do, including this one.
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If it involves too much it risks being thrown out for not being focused. Courts like to decide on one issue at a time, not a pile of them.
 
Kulindahr said:
If it involves too much it risks being thrown out for not being focused. Courts like to decide on one issue at a time, not a pile of them.
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That's not true. Some lawsuits have hundreds of individual counts, but they do end up being whittled down to just a few. In any case, by no means do courts just treat one count at a time and lawsuits rarely just have one. I think you are confusing multiple counts with vagueness, which is indeed grounds for dismissal.
 
Alnitak said:
That's not true. Some lawsuits have hundreds of individual counts, but they do end up being whittled down to just a few. In any case, by no means do courts just treat one count at a time and lawsuits rarely just have one. I think you are confusing multiple counts with vagueness, which is indeed grounds for dismissal.
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I sit corrected.
 
There is also pleading in the alternative.

That is if one line of reasoning falls, then the judge can consider a separate "alternative" reasoning for winning on the merits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleading_in_the_alternative

In layman's terms you would call it a "kitchen sink answer," the kind where kids in high school will write multiple answers on a test question, most of them wrong, in the hopes that one is right and will get full credit. I had one teacher whom accepted this method, but each wrong answer counted against the credit for the question.

However, it is allowed in court.
 
Alnitak said:
There is also pleading in the alternative.

That is if one line of reasoning falls, then the judge can consider a separate "alternative" reasoning for winning on the merits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleading_in_the_alternative

In layman's terms you would call it a "kitchen sink answer," the kind where kids in high school will write multiple answers on a test question, most of them wrong, in the hopes that one is right and will get full credit. I had one teacher whom accepted this method, but each wrong answer counted against the credit for the question.

However, it is allowed in court.
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Of course it's allowed in court -- just like alternative testing methods would be tried in a lab if one failed. The object of a lab, which is what a trial is, is to find truth; the object of a test is to see if you learned truth already found.
 
Alnitak said:
Yes. Croatia will get a very good quality life partnership law soon.

I am fearful for Russian media and Putin's strengthening grip on information, but there is always the Internet.
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Internet is important, but TV is more important. And straight people do not read gay sites. So without any irony, I think that's really good that they disn't hide it.
 
Great little clip of Australia's Liberal (right wing party) PM Malcolm Turnbull on a prospective marriage bill in Australia.

Conscience vote on gay marriage likely, says Malcolm Turnbull

"So people of the same sex can get married in Auckland and Wellington, Toronto and Ottawa and Vancouver, in New York and Los Angeles, and Baltimore, in Cape Town, but not Australia.

"It does start to look as though we're the ones who are out of step."
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I wasn't aware that my little city was on the international radar :? But okay :)
 
#17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Need I say more? Congrats NM Supremes.

http://www.nclrights.org/press-room...arriage-equality-ruling-for-same-sex-couples/

Family & Relationships
New Mexico Supreme Court Issues Landmark Marriage Equality Ruling for Same-Sex Couples

(Santa Fe, NM, December 19, 2013)—Today, in a unanimous decision, the New Mexico Supreme Court ruled that the New Mexico Constitution requires the state to allow same-sex couples to marry. The court ruled that county clerks must issue marriage licenses to otherwise qualified same-sex couples and that the State of New Mexico must respect the marriages of all same-sex couples, including those who married before today’s decision. The plaintiff couples were represented by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of New Mexico, the national ACLU, the National Center for Lesbian Rights (NCLR), the law firm of Sutin, Thayer & Browne APC, and New Mexico attorneys Maureen Sanders, N. Lynn Perls, and J. Kate Girard.
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Kulindahr said:
The headline is interesting, in that what the court really did was declare that gay marriage has always been legal, because of what the state constitution says -- it's just that since no one had fought over it before, everyone assumed it wasn't legal.
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The DECISION, Griego v. Oliver, is at http://sblog.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/NMex-marriage-ruling-12-19-13.pdf (31 pp.)

and

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/12/20/us/new-mexico-marriage-decision.html?ref=us
 
Alnitak said:
Very good unanimous decision. You beat me to it I was working ;)



Virginia, Oregon, Colorado, and hopefully Ohio and Michigan. There is also a very good chance at getting every state in the 9th circuit within a year.
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You forgot about Pennsylvania.
 
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