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What is the Ideal Total population of the world ?

A beaver will alter the environment to survive, man will do it to exploit and dominate. Both work with the tools that nature gave them.

So what conclusion does that lead you to draw about the ideal human population of the world?
 
So what conclusion does that lead you to draw about the ideal human population of the world?

To me there is no ideal, when we outgrow our habitat some or all of us will die. Man is self destructive by nature, we can try to correct our course, but we delay our destiny.
 
To me there is no ideal, when we outgrow our habitat some or all of us will die. Man is self destructive by nature, we can try to correct our course, but we delay our destiny.

A friend shares your view. I disagree with it because the suffering we inflict, and should avoid, is an important ethical issue for me. We have the means to control our population and diminish our harms. Even if it's our destiny to perish, we ought to perish in the least destructive way possible.
 
Or go out in a burning flame of glory. :D

This is the sort of narcissistic juvenile thrill that sustains all sorts of repugnant mayhem. Ugh.

I am shocked, shocked, hearing such undignified talk coming from you. :lol:
 
Our destiny is the stars. To get there, it behooves us to take care of our base of operations, this planet.
I am just feeling pessimistic right know, I see too much suffering and too little intervention. Most of the time in our history the ruthless and cruel rise to power and slaughter the helpless.
 
I am just feeling pessimistic right know, I see too much suffering and too little intervention. Most of the time in our history the ruthless and cruel rise to power and slaughter the helpless.

if it at simple but
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tinku
 
I am just feeling pessimistic right know, I see too much suffering and too little intervention. Most of the time in our history the ruthless and cruel rise to power and slaughter the helpless.

You are merely being rational. It takes great imagination to think otherwise.
 
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