Not true.
the "obsession" is with HOT guys str8 or gay it doesn't matter as long as they are HOT.
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Not true.
the "obsession" is with HOT guys str8 or gay it doesn't matter as long as they are HOT.
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Circe Infuria
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1) As someone said before, hot is hot, regardless of what team you're on
2) There's probably the "forbidden fruit" factor playing for some people, or as people have said, it's a fantasy to get someone from the other team
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I like straight guys 'cause guys with a bend or twist are hard to dance with.
Bullshit. If true, then it would hold true for gay men as well. Would you have sex with a woman if you were drunk? Of course not. I have seen all of my friends drunk, and none became any gayer for the alcohol. If you had even the remotest idea of how disgusting straight men, real straight men, find the idea of having sex with another male is, you wouldn't say that. You are deluded if you think a litte alcohol can chance the innate orientation of straight men which is the center of their whole identity - straight men define their entire existence in pursuing pussy and value themselves in how effective they are at getting it.
Gay men are more promiscuous than straight men, dude. Get over it. The best way to determine who's the most sexually promiscuous is be checking the rate of VD infection, and the bottom line is that gay men contract far more VDs on average than straight men. These are facts and statistics, and they don't lie. You may no like these facts, but they remain facts notwithstanding.
This is true, but I suspect that most straight men wouldn't turn into Roco Siffredi if given a chance. Straight men on average are more seually modest than gay men. Just look at escort agencies, and you'll see that there are as many that catter to gay men as there are that catter to straight men, even though gay men are only 3% of the male population meaning that gay men use escort agencies at a rate 30 times greater than straight men.
Allan Turing, arguably the most brilliant mathematician of the 20th century, was gay. Johh Nash, Nobelist in economics and the man who advanced game theory beyond anyone else, came out as gay. My calculus II professor in high school was gay. I guess that's your theory going down the drains, sport. And I asked you how being good at math is hot because this is the first time I've heard anyone say that. Math is associated with nerds, and not with sexyness.
It's hot to me. That's how it's hot.
Ok.
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Jersey Domino
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Wow this thread took off.
Cool I'm happy.
Cool I'm happy.
You don't have to agree with me or not. What I wrote are facts and thus not open for debate. whether you agree or not is irrelevant.
The Warmth
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"The only time a straight guy turns me on is when they give a subtle hint they might be curious, or are open minded or give some vibe that they aren't straight, wanna try out man sex or act a little bit camp. Anything to make me think that they're not 100% straight, I wanna turn them."
This.
This.
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Well, of course not: there are no women in men's rooms.
But I bet straight guys would hit on them / fuck 'em if there were!
That is not really the question that should be asked, imho. Men are men, and it so happens that the vast majority of men dont identify as gay.
Whether they engage in homosexual encounters or not is another topic. Simple statistics,just like fishing....
People tend to equalize the terms: gay and homosexual. They are not the same. the term Gay implies a lifestyle.
The term Homosexual is related to sexual attraction and identity.
The Gay lifestyle is generally accepted by homosexuals..... however, there are individuals who simply reject everything related to that lifestyle: bars, community, mannerism, friendships, indentity, socialization etc. etc.
In my opinion, the true question should be : why do gays find masculine men so attractive?
To me the answer is obvious!
Food for thought....
NotHardUp1
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A better question after resurrecting a necro-thread from 11 years ago would be "why do zombies identify as asexual?"
As for straight men, they don't identify as homosexual because they aren't. Likely 95% of men are straight.
Gay men fixate on them for a number of very observable causes. First, more than 9 out of 10 men in our society are straight, and most gay men live in normal communities that do not see the concentrations of gay men that a few major cities have created. Therefore, straight men are what is in the dairy case, so to speak. Soy is less common.
Second, gay men are conditioned by marketing and society to look up to straight men as the exemplars of society. Advertizing and cinema and other media all present the alpha male as straight with very, very few exceptions. Just as teenage girls focus on their closest "Mr. Right," gay teen boys do as well and he looks straight.
Third, many or a likely majority of gay men, come of age with a less secure sexual identity that their straight counterparts. This causes a sort of ego-envy which leads to the increased likelihood that a gay man will see a straight male as more confident and more appealing. A fellow gay is more likely to have issues due to societal pressures and rejection. In short, success sells in sex.
Finally, the gay versus homosexual dichotomy in societal perceptions merely drives down the gay population that is out, not the gay population. In anonymous surveys and other measures, the straight men will still admit to having passing encounters in adolescence with same sex partners, but that doesn't make a vast underground of closeted bi or gay men living out lives of quiet desperation in a heteronomative society. Their numbers are still small and getting smaller as society is less and less intolerant, in the West, of homosexuals. But that does touch on the inadequacy of representations of "gay" in media, increasingly rejected by men who don't identify in the cliches that are cointinually promoted in university diversity programs, gay advocates, and businesses marketing to gay men. Vogue doesn't describe women, and Huffington Post doesn't define gay.
As for straight men, they don't identify as homosexual because they aren't. Likely 95% of men are straight.
Gay men fixate on them for a number of very observable causes. First, more than 9 out of 10 men in our society are straight, and most gay men live in normal communities that do not see the concentrations of gay men that a few major cities have created. Therefore, straight men are what is in the dairy case, so to speak. Soy is less common.
Second, gay men are conditioned by marketing and society to look up to straight men as the exemplars of society. Advertizing and cinema and other media all present the alpha male as straight with very, very few exceptions. Just as teenage girls focus on their closest "Mr. Right," gay teen boys do as well and he looks straight.
Third, many or a likely majority of gay men, come of age with a less secure sexual identity that their straight counterparts. This causes a sort of ego-envy which leads to the increased likelihood that a gay man will see a straight male as more confident and more appealing. A fellow gay is more likely to have issues due to societal pressures and rejection. In short, success sells in sex.
Finally, the gay versus homosexual dichotomy in societal perceptions merely drives down the gay population that is out, not the gay population. In anonymous surveys and other measures, the straight men will still admit to having passing encounters in adolescence with same sex partners, but that doesn't make a vast underground of closeted bi or gay men living out lives of quiet desperation in a heteronomative society. Their numbers are still small and getting smaller as society is less and less intolerant, in the West, of homosexuals. But that does touch on the inadequacy of representations of "gay" in media, increasingly rejected by men who don't identify in the cliches that are cointinually promoted in university diversity programs, gay advocates, and businesses marketing to gay men. Vogue doesn't describe women, and Huffington Post doesn't define gay.
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Oh I see someone has been visiting the crypts again....
Some homos are straight chasers because it provides a wonderful barrier to emotional involvement and sexual activity with other gay guys.
Some just love the thrill of the lucky shot when they get to suck a straight' guy's dick or get him to fuck them up the ass while he proclaims his straightness. Like hunting game.
And yeah, for some it is the appeal of a masculine figure.........although there are more than enough masculine homos and bi-sexual men out there.
Whatever works for them and their partners I guess.
It isn't as though there is really any high ground here.
Some homos are straight chasers because it provides a wonderful barrier to emotional involvement and sexual activity with other gay guys.
Some just love the thrill of the lucky shot when they get to suck a straight' guy's dick or get him to fuck them up the ass while he proclaims his straightness. Like hunting game.
And yeah, for some it is the appeal of a masculine figure.........although there are more than enough masculine homos and bi-sexual men out there.
Whatever works for them and their partners I guess.
It isn't as though there is really any high ground here.
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peeonme
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To boldly go where no man has gone before! Forbidden fruit type of thing.
Maybe NOT so Straight
At work I'm not one of the cool guys. Like to be but while I some times get invited for after work drinks thats about it. Figure they may know I'm gay.
Matt was one of the coolest-good looking tall fit and engaged to the bosses daughter so his career was set while I just kept working.
A week before Matts wedding suprisingly he invited me on his stag night even though I seems the odd one out I eagerly accepted and saw a chance to get with the crowd.
We had done three bars and everyone except me was drinking heavily-I know I don't hold my booze and didn't want to embarase myself.
As we were heading for another bar Matt suggested he had had enough but was too pissed to go home and could he stay at my nearby flat. Before I even thought of it I had agreed.
His mates helped him in and I was embarrased as my flat was a poky one bedder but close to the city as I had no car. I could see their sideways glances and smirkes as the dumped Matt on my bed. They stripped off his clothes and shoes and laid him out and he had passed out. I was given instructions to keep his head on the side so he wouldn't choke if he was sick and then they were gone.
Matt was snoring loudly as I shut the door to spend the night on my lounge and the TV. I checked in on him about an hour later and as the light came thru the open door saw his cock tenting his jocks. They were curving his cock and on closer inspection causing a gap on the side so I could see a hairy ball. Of course the COOL GUY would have the big cock!
I softly felt thru the jocks and they were straining to hold it in. I called Matt but he was out to it some a rubbed a bit more and slipped a finger in the side to feel his ball and warm shaft. Fuck this was hot and I was now erect. I rubbed some more and Matt's jocks seemed to strain further.
I put my mouth of his buldge and rubbed more firmly checking he was still out to it. I pulled my pants down and was pulling my hard cock. He decided I needed to release his erection from its restraints and slowly lifted the elastic waist and pulled Matts's jocks down.
His cut cock popped up fast but he was still asleep. I pulled his jocks downs to reveal his big swollen ball sack. FUCK he as big! Again I checked he was asleep and softy felt his hairy balls and examined his rock hard shaft. It was heavily veined and had a big mushroom head that looked to big even on his big cock. I licked the veins along his shaft down to his balls and up under his cock head. He was still asleep and as I was now so horny I licked the piss hole and the head slowly licking more as I lowered my lips around the head and slipped the whole head in my hot mouth. I sucked softly and kept licking.
I jumped as Matt stirred but didn't wake up and his legs opened as his balls were out and swollen. He started snoring again and went back to sucking his amazing shaft this time taken more of it into my mouth and stroked a bit faster while being now able to caress his ball sack. Fuck if he woke up he would kill me BUT I was gone and sucked harder and stoked faster-I tasted pre cum and he stirred again but I figured if he hadn't woken before now it was safe and went ever faster and took more of his shaft in my mouth.
A little more pre cum and them an enormous wad of his sperm suddenly filled my mouth. I swallowed but another huge wad spilled out of my mouth and the another. Matt was stirring and I kept sucking and stroking as fast as I could . His hot sperm rolled out of my mouth and down his hard shaft and was now running down to his balls. FUCK he was loaded and came again I kept sucking and Matt became moe still and I sucked the last out of his erection and for the first time it softened slightly.
His cock and balls were covered with his cum but I figured if I cleaned him he might wake so pulled myself off and left the room to sleep on the lounge. Fuck I just sucked off the hottest guy at work and he didn't even know.
About 8 next morning Matt came out of the bedroom. He had his just his pants on and was clearly hung over.
"Wow what happened last night . I can remember were at The Cellar drinking but nothing much after that. How did I get here?"
I explained his mates brought him and undressed him and left him on the bed and he seemed satisfied. He must have found his sticky cock and balls and figured he had wanked in his sleep. Matt was up for some coffee and sat at the table and slowly drank it.
"So thats all that happened?" Yes I assured him.
"Because I think last night I had the best blow job I have every had and I liked it" With that he stood up pulled down his pants and his semi hard cock started rising.
Änd I want it again" as he stepped in front and put his now hard cock on my lips and I licked the head softly.
At work I'm not one of the cool guys. Like to be but while I some times get invited for after work drinks thats about it. Figure they may know I'm gay.
Matt was one of the coolest-good looking tall fit and engaged to the bosses daughter so his career was set while I just kept working.
A week before Matts wedding suprisingly he invited me on his stag night even though I seems the odd one out I eagerly accepted and saw a chance to get with the crowd.
We had done three bars and everyone except me was drinking heavily-I know I don't hold my booze and didn't want to embarase myself.
As we were heading for another bar Matt suggested he had had enough but was too pissed to go home and could he stay at my nearby flat. Before I even thought of it I had agreed.
His mates helped him in and I was embarrased as my flat was a poky one bedder but close to the city as I had no car. I could see their sideways glances and smirkes as the dumped Matt on my bed. They stripped off his clothes and shoes and laid him out and he had passed out. I was given instructions to keep his head on the side so he wouldn't choke if he was sick and then they were gone.
Matt was snoring loudly as I shut the door to spend the night on my lounge and the TV. I checked in on him about an hour later and as the light came thru the open door saw his cock tenting his jocks. They were curving his cock and on closer inspection causing a gap on the side so I could see a hairy ball. Of course the COOL GUY would have the big cock!
I softly felt thru the jocks and they were straining to hold it in. I called Matt but he was out to it some a rubbed a bit more and slipped a finger in the side to feel his ball and warm shaft. Fuck this was hot and I was now erect. I rubbed some more and Matt's jocks seemed to strain further.
I put my mouth of his buldge and rubbed more firmly checking he was still out to it. I pulled my pants down and was pulling my hard cock. He decided I needed to release his erection from its restraints and slowly lifted the elastic waist and pulled Matts's jocks down.
His cut cock popped up fast but he was still asleep. I pulled his jocks downs to reveal his big swollen ball sack. FUCK he as big! Again I checked he was asleep and softy felt his hairy balls and examined his rock hard shaft. It was heavily veined and had a big mushroom head that looked to big even on his big cock. I licked the veins along his shaft down to his balls and up under his cock head. He was still asleep and as I was now so horny I licked the piss hole and the head slowly licking more as I lowered my lips around the head and slipped the whole head in my hot mouth. I sucked softly and kept licking.
I jumped as Matt stirred but didn't wake up and his legs opened as his balls were out and swollen. He started snoring again and went back to sucking his amazing shaft this time taken more of it into my mouth and stroked a bit faster while being now able to caress his ball sack. Fuck if he woke up he would kill me BUT I was gone and sucked harder and stoked faster-I tasted pre cum and he stirred again but I figured if he hadn't woken before now it was safe and went ever faster and took more of his shaft in my mouth.
A little more pre cum and them an enormous wad of his sperm suddenly filled my mouth. I swallowed but another huge wad spilled out of my mouth and the another. Matt was stirring and I kept sucking and stroking as fast as I could . His hot sperm rolled out of my mouth and down his hard shaft and was now running down to his balls. FUCK he was loaded and came again I kept sucking and Matt became moe still and I sucked the last out of his erection and for the first time it softened slightly.
His cock and balls were covered with his cum but I figured if I cleaned him he might wake so pulled myself off and left the room to sleep on the lounge. Fuck I just sucked off the hottest guy at work and he didn't even know.
About 8 next morning Matt came out of the bedroom. He had his just his pants on and was clearly hung over.
"Wow what happened last night . I can remember were at The Cellar drinking but nothing much after that. How did I get here?"
I explained his mates brought him and undressed him and left him on the bed and he seemed satisfied. He must have found his sticky cock and balls and figured he had wanked in his sleep. Matt was up for some coffee and sat at the table and slowly drank it.
"So thats all that happened?" Yes I assured him.
"Because I think last night I had the best blow job I have every had and I liked it" With that he stood up pulled down his pants and his semi hard cock started rising.
Änd I want it again" as he stepped in front and put his now hard cock on my lips and I licked the head softly.
nycguydowntown
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Oh I see someone has been visiting the crypts again....
Some homos are straight chasers because it provides a wonderful barrier to emotional involvement and sexual activity with other gay guys.
Some just love the thrill of the lucky shot when they get to suck a straight' guy's dick or get him to fuck them up the ass while he proclaims his straightness. Like hunting game.
And yeah, for some it is the appeal of a masculine figure.........
this sounds a lot like me
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"Gay implies a lifestyle".
Where did you get that???? That sounds like something an ignorant straight person would say.
"Gay" did not 'imply' a 'lifestyle' back in the 60s or 70s. (We didn't HAVE a 'lifestyle' back then.) Nor does it now, as far as I'm aware of.
Maybe you could explain where you got this new definition, because it's not something I've ever heard guys debating at tea time in San Francisco. "Gay" and "homosexual" have simply been synonyms for each other.
The whole "lifestyle" thing is an imaginary perception by those who lack perceptiveness.
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Self-hate mixed with the childish desire to go after what you can't have.
nycguydowntown
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Nah---not at all---I've had about 5 straight guys in my life and its always been an amazing experience because we were friends--with the exception of one--I never fell in love with them---and you can be gay and fall in love with a gay guy who doesn't want you---you can be straight and fall in love with a girl who doesn't want you---thats life--they were just close friends who I hung out with and blew---I am still friends with all of them. Sex with a real straight guy is not like normal gay sex---no kissing nothing like that--just buds who let u suck their dicks cuz they feel comfortable with you and are horny. Most of my relationships are normal gay ones.