What Part of "Equality" Doesn't the Right-wing Understand?

[metta]

What Part of "Equality" Doesn't the Right-wing Understand?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathaniel-frank/dont-ask-dont-tell_b_1000203.html

 

[mygaybuffet]

They understand it alright! Or do they?

 

[gewhite3]

Same shit, different day for the Republican party.

 

[JayQueer]

Because "equality" is a liberal term that has a socialist connotation. It implies that we are all the same, and if we are all the same, why not "spread the wealth" and attack the upper class so that everyone has the same amount of money in their pocket & bank account, and their income should be the same, regardless of their degree, career, education, or experience?

If you want to talk to conservatives about LGBT issues and "equality" you have to learn how to use language that resonate with conservatives.

Conservatives prefer the term "freedom" and "liberty".

 

[nycguydowntown]

^yeah, conservatives want the freedom and liberty to take equality away from anyone they don't like.

 

[bike10]

They get there news from Fox and Rush they don't think for themselves.

 

[gsdx]

"The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation." - Pierre Elliott Trudeau, December 21, 1967.

 

[gewhite3]

Because "equality" is a liberal term that has a socialist connotation. It implies that we are all the same, and if we are all the same, why not "spread the wealth" and attack the upper class so that everyone has the same amount of money in their pocket & bank account, and their income should be the same, regardless of their degree, career, education, or experience?

If you want to talk to conservatives about LGBT issues and "equality" you have to learn how to use language that resonate with conservatives.

Conservatives prefer the term "freedom" and "liberty".

I don't know where you get this crap from, but you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Where in the hell did you get the idea that equality means that everyone has the same amount of money and same income.... care to post something to back that up?

 

[JayQueer]

Because only white males should own slaves.

Oh, I think slavery is still very much alive, especially in the gay male community.

Just go into the Fetish forum or look up gay BDSM sites if you are into the Master/slave dynamic.

Or, you can go the Folsom Street Fair (which just took place in San Francisco last month).

 

[gsdx]

Why are all these threads turning into pissing contests?

 

[JayQueer]

Why are all these threads turning into pissing contests?

I don't know. I answered the question, but people refuse to understand what I was trying to say.

Right-wingers don't see "equality" as a virtue -- they see "freedom" and "liberty" as virtues.

Therefore, if you want to get more support from conservatives & "right-wingers" for LGBT issues, you have to learn how to speak their language.

If you frame the discussion for marriage equality as a "freedom to marry the person who you love".......now you're starting to talk to conservatives.

 

[TheFireGod]

Oh they believe in freedom alright, for themselves only, not for the ones who, they believe, are trying to end their deluded 1950s fantasy, that was a fantasy even in the 1950s.

They use their religious dogmas as a shield and use (ironically) the government as a tool to impose their traditionalist ideals.

Same goes for the economy, they believe in outdated concepts, except taxation during war/occupation, which they seem to not look to (or outright deny) the past to as guidance.

 

[Kulindahr]

Because "equality" is a liberal term that has a socialist connotation. It implies that we are all the same, and if we are all the same, why not "spread the wealth" and attack the upper class so that everyone has the same amount of money in their pocket & bank account, and their income should be the same, regardless of their degree, career, education, or experience?

If you want to talk to conservatives about LGBT issues and "equality" you have to learn how to use language that resonate with conservatives.

Conservatives prefer the term "freedom" and "liberty".

I guess you'd rather not have the Declaration of Independence taught in schools. Or do you really think that the colonist rebelled so everyone could have the same wealth, etc.?

 

[Kulindahr]

Oh, I think slavery is still very much alive, especially in the gay male community.

Just go into the Fetish forum or look up gay BDSM sites if you are into the Master/slave dynamic.

Or, you can go the Folsom Street Fair (which just took place in San Francisco last month).

You've been taking lessons in making no sense at all, from justapixel, right?

Or are you really under the impression that all those black Africans volunteered to live in crappy conditions and focus their lives on doing someone else's bidding?

 

[Kulindahr]

I don't know. I answered the question, but people refuse to understand what I was trying to say.

Right-wingers don't see "equality" as a virtue -- they see "freedom" and "liberty" as virtues.

Right -- if they reject equality, then they can comfort themselves about being racist, misogynistic, homophobic, and often religious, bigots.

Therefore, if you want to get more support from conservatives & "right-wingers" for LGBT issues, you have to learn how to speak their language.

If you frame the discussion for marriage equality as a "freedom to marry the person who you love".......now you're starting to talk to conservatives.

Yep -- because they can then continue to think of freedom as something granted by the government, and cling to an authoritarian, paternalistic view of society.

 

[gewhite3]

Therefore, if you want to get more support from conservatives & "right-wingers" for LGBT issues, you have to learn how to speak their language.

So, how did coming out to all of your conservative, straight friends and talking about LGBT issues work out for ya, JQ?

 

[Rubber Rat]

Because "equality" is a liberal term that has a socialist connotation. It implies that we are all the same, and if we are all the same, why not "spread the wealth" and attack the upper class so that everyone has the same amount of money in their pocket & bank account, and their income should be the same, regardless of their degree, career, education, or experience?

If you want to talk to conservatives about LGBT issues and "equality" you have to learn how to use language that resonate with conservatives.

Conservatives prefer the term "freedom" and "liberty".

You are so full of shit.

 

[Kulindahr]

^ Indeed. That's so on target.

 

[fetaby]

Because "equality" is a liberal term that has a socialist connotation. It implies that we are all the same, and if we are all the same, why not "spread the wealth" and attack the upper class so that everyone has the same amount of money in their pocket & bank account, and their income should be the same, regardless of their degree, career, education, or experience?

If you want to talk to conservatives about LGBT issues and "equality" you have to learn how to use language that resonate with conservatives.

Conservatives prefer the term "freedom" and "liberty".

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed


It is telling that modern conservatives occupy their thoughts with only one thing, money...

 

[Kulindahr]

^
Thomas Jefferson was a socialist.