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What Should Be The Legal Age Of Consent?

California it says 18 years old so that sounds just about right here.
 
I don't even like the idea of trying to think about what the consensual age "should" be - but I'm totally sick and tired of lawbreakers often being punished more severely than MURDERERS. Somebody who's 19 and has sex with somebody who's 15, in some U.S. jurisdictions, can get a prison sentence as serious as life without a chance of parole, I think. THAT IS JUST SO TOTALLY, TOTALLY WRONG.

And especially so when I think such crimes probably have the highest rates of FALSE convictions of perhaps any crime??
 
In the UK the age of consent is 16 for boys with girls and vice versa, but I think it is 18 for boys on boys. Whether that's changed over the last 10 years I don't know. If anyone has sex before then, then I believe it's considered statutory rape in the eyes of the law. Funny though, since when I was at school, my class mate knocked up a girl at 15, and nothing was made of it.

On the continent (Europe) it varies, some have it as low as 14 I recall hearing somewhere.....
 
In the uk it is now 16 for both homo and hetero sex. Sounds about right to me, you can get married at that age, join the army and get killed. If you are considered old enough for that then you are old enough to understand the ramifications of sex. Of course some will be ready for it before then and some will not be ready for it until much later but you have to start somewhere and the law seems incapable o0f making individual judgments.
 
I am sure in Oz the concent age is 16 , although i think it might have become 18 , not to sure. I think that is appropiate, that way the person is mature enough to make thier decisions more clearly then 16 years old , having sex has alot of risks and takes alot of responsability.
 
I was just reading through that list from the link , in like 10 countires its illeagl to have male on male sex , but legal for female on female! Wont be visiting those countries in my life time
 
i think its suppose to be 16 years old for boys and girls in south africa. But i think girls can get married here at 14 yrs of age and guys can get married at 16yrs of age. Thats from what i think i can remember from law lectures 2 years ago.
 
As a rule, you shouldn't really be courting for sexual relations until they have finished school.












They finish school at about half-three where I live
 
"If you are considered old enough for that then you are old enough to understand the ramifications of sex."

I know full grown adults who don't understand the ramifications of sex.
 
I don't really understand "age of consent." Like there's some particular milestone at which I suddenly am capable of consenting to things... I'm suddenly cognizant of the best presidential candidate, I can suddenly hold my liquor, I can suddenly make informed choices about the uses and dispositions of my own body. And if I were English, that milestone would naturally occur two year earlier because of... what, the climate? That doesn't really make sense, logically.

However, law and reason can't always coincide, particularly when we're speaking of something as necessarily arbitrary as legal responsibility. My parents were legally responsible for me until I was eighteen; before that, I was legally not a real person, I was an adjunct... a person-in-training, as it were, an apprentice. Now, if I were legally responsible for myself at, say, age 12, would it have made much of a difference? Well, yes, my parents could have abandoned me if they so chose without breaking the law.

So the original law was based on whether or not I was physically mature: have I reached my full strength and become capable of caring for myself? Some people hit that earlier than others. I didn't reach full physical maturity, and wasn't mentally or emotionally capable of caring for myself, until I was thirty. Some people hit that state in their teens. It's different for every person.

However, you can't judge everything on a case-by-case basis under law, or you'd have nothing but confusion. So an arbitrary line had to be drawn. In the US the arbitrary line was drawn at eighteen. And there's not much can be done about it, because the people it affects either don't have the right to participate in the political process or are labeled as pedophiles and therefore also outside of the political process.

I guess the bottom line is, the right to fuck someone of a particular age isn't that important. If it's love, you can wait (seventeen is a temporary state), and if it's not love it doesn't really make much of a difference.

This suddenly makes me think of a movie I saw once, in which an entire nation of teenagers banded together, spurred by a Jim Morrison-like rock star, and pretty much went on strike until the voting age was lowered to fifteen; then they elected the rock star as president, and all hell broke loose. It was the most delicious paranoia.
 
I guess 18 is fine. The odd thing is that you can die for your country but you can't have a drink 'till you're 21.
 
i don't like limitations like these.. i'm not a big fan of the law
if people would just have the self-discipline to behave as decent human beings we wouldn't need such perverted laws that often don't make allot of sense
keh... if two people are into each other they should be able to make out,
regardless of their age, or sex, it's their choice
i don't really care for the 'age' of consent, as long as there's consent
 
16 seems pretty reasonable. I was a very late bloomer, but I wonder if any kids are these days. I think 16 is old enough to think about the ramifications of your actions.
 
I'm not sure what the age of consent law should be. It needs to apply to some people who exploit and abuse youth. However, others have not deserved punishment.

What upsets me about the whole "age of consent" law is how paranoid and superficially judgmental it makes people. As if "18" is the magic number that divides who is a "pedophile" and who isn't. Most people have no clue what a pedophile is. They just use the name to condemn anyone not fitting that magic number of "18." A teen is still a teen when they're 18. A teen is still a teen when they're 19. An adolescent brain does not fully develop logic and mature cognition until they're at least 20.

So if we're condemning people on the basis of the youth being too "immature" to be in an adult relationship under 18, that's a lot of bull. Because 18 year-olds can be just as immature as 17. If we're condemning people on the basis of being perverted towards young bodies, look at our advertising world. Our society is brainwashed to find adolescents sexually attractive. Women are made to look like young, slutty virgins. The gay porn industry exhales "twinks," "Freshmen," "sk8ter bois," "highschool jocks."

We need to take a hard look at our own society and figure out why people are so self-loathing yet so titilated by teen youth.
 
I notice that most of the states have "law invalidated" in the male-male and female-female columns. I'm pretty sure that's due to Lawrence v. Texas. Before that, most of them had higher ages for male-male sex, except New Mexico, where the AoC for male-male sex was 13 - I have no idea why.

I wonder if you could argue that those states have no binding Age of Consent laws regarding male-male sex? I think the smart thing to do is revert to the AoC being the same regardless of the gender of the participants, but I don't think those states have moved to do that yet. Perhaps they're hoping that the new Court will reverse itself again.
 
BenF46 said:
As a rule, you shouldn't really be courting for sexual relations until they have finished school.

Welcome back Ben.:D












They finish school at about half-three where I live
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Do Welshmen Dream of Eclectic Sheep?;)
 
The age of consent varies from person to person. People mature at different ages, which makes it impossible to establish a true age of consent. Some can give consent at age 16, and some at age 18. The law specifies an age of consent that is only useful for prosecuting violaters. The maturity of an individual is not considered when a person goes to trial, only the fact that the specified age limit has been violated. This leaves to the ridiculous conviction of a 19 year old having sex with a 16 year old. I do understand the need to establish a formal age of consent, but each case should be reviewed according to the actual maturity of the person.
 
star-warrior said:
In the UK the age of consent is 16 for boys with girls and vice versa, but I think it is 18 for boys on boys. Whether that's changed over the last 10 years I don't know. If anyone has sex before then, then I believe it's considered statutory rape in the eyes of the law. Funny though, since when I was at school, my class mate knocked up a girl at 15, and nothing was made of it.

On the continent (Europe) it varies, some have it as low as 14 I recall hearing somewhere.....
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You're a little bit out of date. The age of consent in the UK for all is 16 and has been for a number of years now. You can also get married or enter a civil partnership (equivalent of marriage for gay men and women) at 16 - however if the government has its way you soon won't be able to smoke a post-coital cigarette until you are 18! In the UK (as in the EU) all law applies equally to both genders and to all subgroups such as gays, so there cannot be a different age of consent for gays as opposed to straights.

Channel 4 recently showed a morning TV series for schools (ie to be watched in class and discussed with teacher) where gay schoolboys and girls from 14 up to 21 discussed being gay and their sex lives etc. as part of general social education for 14-16 year olds. When I was at school we only got maths and music via television!

Where both parties are slightly below the age of 16 and have consensual sex neither is prosecuted and if one partner is over the age of 16 and one a bit under it is very rare for there to be any legal action taken though it is technically statutory rape, even if consent was given by the junior. The British system in practice is reasonably relaxed about this except when the child is below puberty and/or the older party is parental/middle-aged then all hell breaks loose, it is considered the worst of all crimes to be a paedophile, pretty much the same as anywhere else, even if the perpetrator is 13.

The legal exception to all of this is that it is illegal to have sex with anyone up to 18 (I think) where you are in locus parenti or in a position of trust or care - such as being a schoolteacher with a pupil.

Peter Tatchell, the incessant gay rights campaigner is campaigning to have the age of consent lowered to 12 in the UK - with no public support from the general or gay population.
 
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