what should i get? Ipod or creative zen v plus?

[tx_doc]

i was talking about the iPOD - go ahead and show me like you can fill it with mp3s on a computer without iTunes. you can fill it with mp3s - but it won't play them.
and when you put the mp3s with iTunes on the iPod and try to extract them to a computer without iTunes - yes that works .. somehow, but its freaking donkeywork.

Now I understand what you mean. You do have to use iTunes to manage the music on the iPod, but it will play MP3 files.

iPod Audio support
MP3 (8 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, AAC (8 to 320 Kbps), Protected AAC (from iTunes Music Store, M4A, M4B, M4P), Audible (formats 2, 3, and 4) and WAV​

 

[Corny]

iPod Audio support
MP3 (8 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, AAC (8 to 320 Kbps), Protected AAC (from iTunes Music Store, M4A, M4B, M4P), Audible (formats 2, 3, and 4) and WAV​

But ONLY ìf you upload them with iTunes