What TF is wrong with some kids?

[unloadonme]

The little turdbag just got sentenced yesterday. He is now locked up.

Locked up for how long?

 

[Dominus]

Locked up for how long?

I was told maximum security youth detention for 4 months. After that he will have to attend counseling. He's 13 so I'm guessing they went really lenient on him. I was told by the parents that they said in court one slip up and they will reconsider the sentence to juvie until he's 18.

Still seems kinda lite considering there was penetration involved.

 

[rareboy]

This is just the beginning of his lifetime of incarceration.

Unfortunately, as I pointed out before, he is undoubtedly a sociopath or psychopath and no amount of counselling will change this.

But with luck, they will be able to continue to track and incarcerate or he will run afoul of some bad person somewhere.

 

[Dominus]

This is just the beginning of his lifetime of incarceration.

Unfortunately, as I pointed out before, he is undoubtedly a sociopath or psychopath and no amount of counselling will change this.

But with luck, they will be able to continue to track and incarcerate or he will run afoul of some bad person somewhere.

I'm having a lot of hard time comprehending how a 13 yr old could do all those things he did.

I don't know if I mentioned this before. The little turdtard was already on probation for setting someone's house on fire. No one got hurt. The fire was put out right away.

Again, it's hard for me to comprehend a little kid (yes, 13 yr old is a little kid) setting someone's house on fire or raping 6 yr old girls.

Like you said, this could very well be a child sociopath. Can't tell the difference between right and wrong. Can't tell that hurting another person is wrong.

I've seen programs on TV about problem children and incarcerated kids who committed heinous crimes. I never thought I would run into one of these turdbags.

The parents live in a 2br apartment. There are other people there. There's a young couple with a new born in another 2br apartment there. I'm not sure I feel comfortable having a sociopathic child living there anymore. I mean, in 4 months he will be back (assuming he doesn't mess up in the youth detention center). What other things he's gonna do?

I guess I'm feeling a bit disturbed by this event.

 

[Dominus]

There is nothing magical about 13, 15, 17, or 21. Age is not as important as we have made it in law.

Maturity is relevant depending on context.

In the modern era, we've over-pychologized mental illness and cognitive abilies to the detriment of both society and justice.

If a teen is capable of rape and knowing it's rape, as all but the most febrile humans are, then there shouldn't be some tiered justice system where juveniles are treated like hatchlings and shielded from public exposure and given tabular rasa upon reaching a legal majority. A convicted rapist or murderer is a felon, period. Publish their faces, their convictions, and prevent them from having anonymity. They may or may not outlive their criminality, but the crime is against society, and society has the right to know the identities of the criminals who are convicted.

As for 13-year-olds being cruel, I'd say that is not just possible, but common, and for the majority, they become more cruel in a crowd with onlookers to boost their esteem as powerful.

Our SCOTUS made a mistake when it removed rape from the capital crimes. If you knowingly violate a human to that degree, be the victim adult, female, male, or child, that should be a capital offense. You don't get a warning period, a second bite at the apple. Society has no interest in reforming you.

I was watching a crime show recently, and the killer who cut his girlfriend's throat, the mother of his child, and then cut her up and flushed her organs down the sewer, pulled her teeth out of her decapitated head so it could not be identified, and dismembered her utterly, he was convicted of "voluntary manslaughter" and given only 12-25 years of prison. He was only in his 20's. What kind of nation are we that we think that isn't meriting of execution? At the very least, life in solitary?

As a footnote, "douchebag" isn't an epithet used for psychotics, dictators, serial killers, torturers, or other miscreants guilty of high crimes. It's an epithet used to slur people who are just crappy humans, like litterers, Karens, deadbeats who dodge child-support, or similar low behaviors. Hitler wouldn't be a douchebag. A grammar Nazi would be.

Thank you for making me not able to sleep right tonight with the timothy bradford case. Why in God's name did they agree to a plea deal? That is... insane.

 

[NotHardUp1]

If you're having a hard time processing how a 13-year-old can "do all those things," you should volunteer in a public junior high school, and assist in one of the compulsory classes, not some elective or shop or band. And don't do it in some upscale school for the upper middle class, where the majority of parents give a damn, and certainly not 90% white Midwest.

By 13, the adders in the egg have long since hatched. They're right there with the chicklings, and doing everything possible to disrupt everything the school is trying to do for all the hatchlings. Since the adders were never helped with their homework at home, nor encouraged to aspire to be better than street criminals, they began doing whatever they pleased once they were big enough to be too much to handle for their single moms, around age 11-12, some younger. Their attendance began falling as they skipped school and began shoplifting, smoking, doing drugs.

With each passing month, they grew more angry that the "good kids" had more material goods, had parents who gave a damn, and who were leaving them behind in learning, making them feel stupid. So, they began compensating for it with acting out, threatening the students, teacher, school system, and society. It doesn't take very long for all that "idle time" not studying and not going to school to give them criminal experiences, and there is a whole society of malevolents ready to take in apprentices to be their minions.

They thieve. They push drugs. They steal cars. They rape. They kill. They just are early achievers.

And when society gives the worst of them "multiple life sentences, PLUS 80 years," it is an open admission to society that justice is not being done. Your dead citizen is just too bad, because society cares more about the perceived injustice to an underclass than it does actual injustice to the dead.

Our world is overpopulated, quite literally. As countries with violent populations are forced into contact with their worst elements, there will be a return to capital punishment and an admission that society is simply better off with executions and permanent removal of offenders whose entire ethos is corrupt and who will never learn to play nice. There is nothing, I repeat nothing, more ethical about imprisoning a soul for life or even sixty years, with a colony of the worst of humanity. It is a mental masturbation for those who feel responsible for the failings of society and consider it mericiful to incarcerate.

Admit that society fails and that individuals fail. When a man makes repeated choices to harm fellow citizens, then remove him permanently. Diminished capacity is not a valid excuse for serious violence, only an explanation.

Do better for the poor with government policy, and help witn nutrition, employment, housing, and educatiton, but once all that fails, an individual should face justice, not enablers.

 

[Dominus]

If you're having a hard time processing how a 13-year-old can "do all those things," you should volunteer in a public junior high school, and assist in one of the compulsory classes, not some elective or shop or band. And don't do it in some upscale school for the upper middle class, where the majority of parents give a damn, and certainly not 90% white Midwest.

By 13, the adders in the egg have long since hatched. They're right there with the chicklings, and doing everything possible to disrupt everything the school is trying to do for all the hatchlings. Since the adders were never helped with their homework at home, nor encouraged to aspire to be better than street criminals, they began doing whatever they pleased once they were big enough to be too much to handle for their single moms, around age 11-12, some younger. Their attendance began falling as they skipped school and began shoplifting, smoking, doing drugs.

With each passing month, they grew more angry that the "good kids" had more material goods, had parents who gave a damn, and who were leaving them behind in learning, making them feel stupid. So, they began compensating for it with acting out, threatening the students, teacher, school system, and society. It doesn't take very long for all that "idle time" not studying and not going to school to give them criminal experiences, and there is a whole society of malevolents ready to take in apprentices to be their minions.

They thieve. They push drugs. They steal cars. They rape. They kill. They just are early achievers.

And when society gives the worst of them "multiple life sentences, PLUS 80 years," it is an open admission to society that justice is not being done. Your dead citizen is just too bad, because society cares more about the perceived injustice to an underclass than it does actual injustice to the dead.

Our world is overpopulated, quite literally. As countries with violent populations are forced into contact with their worst elements, there will be a return to capital punishment and an admission that society is simply better off with executions and permanent removal of offenders whose entire ethos is corrupt and who will never learn to play nice. There is nothing, I repeat nothing, more ethical about imprisoning a soul for life or even sixty years, with a colony of the worst of humanity. It is a mental masturbation for those who feel responsible for the failings of society and consider it mericiful to incarcerate.

Admit that society fails and that individuals fail. When a man makes repeated choices to harm fellow citizens, then remove him permanently. Diminished capacity is not a valid excuse for serious violence, only an explanation.

Do better for the poor with government policy, and help witn nutrition, employment, housing, and educatiton, but once all that fails, an individual should face justice, not enablers.

So, both his parents are on disability. The mom is too fat and sickly to work. She lives a very sedentary lifestyle. The dad is... I actually don't know what's wrong with him. He once told me he worked in construction and something fell on his head and now he is learning disabled. I've seen him walk all over town, though.

Point is both parents don't do anything productive at all. Ever. I've been told once you're on disability you don't want to do anything to lose it. It is the ultimate passive income.

My parents have always told me growing up that boredom and passivity leads to crime. That's why I always had chores to do growing up and I actually got a job at 16 and never stopped working since.

I can't help but think this kid's parents did the kid dirty by living such passive, non-productive lives and they are his only role models.

 

[Kahaih]

/\ @ seen walking all over town

It's quite possible that he thought he'd take a little walk around the block but then couldn't find his way back.

 

[Dominus]

/\ @ seen walking all over town

It's quite possible that he thought he'd take a little walk around the block but then couldn't find his way back.

Someone who can walk all over town can surely work a job? And someone too fat to work can surely work a desk job?

 

[NotHardUp1]

So, both his parents are on disability. The mom is too fat and sickly to work. She lives a very sedentary lifestyle. The dad is... I actually don't know what's wrong with him. He once told me he worked in construction and something fell on his head and now he is learning disabled. I've seen him walk all over town, though.

Point is both parents don't do anything productive at all. Ever. I've been told once you're on disability you don't want to do anything to lose it. It is the ultimate passive income.

My parents have always told me growing up that boredom and passivity leads to crime. That's why I always had chores to do growing up and I actually got a job at 16 and never stopped working since.

I can't help but think this kid's parents did the kid dirty by living such passive, non-productive lives and they are his only role models.

And that story is repeated over and over, millions of times in a nation wtih 350 million souls. Sometimes they are on aid, sometimes not. But, the notion that both adults are incapable of work is likely their excuse, as there are plenty of jobs that don't require skill or learning much, just attendance. And when adults believe they can avoid work, sadly many do.

That they are bad parents is likely true also, but none of that changes the boy's ability to look about and see other citizens all around him working for a living, many in low paying jobs in retail, but others not, in factories, construction sites, trades, and so on. Ultimately, he chooses which model to follow.

My mother had five children. None of us but the last had a father, or even a name of one. She was a drunkard, would rather sleep than work, and always exploited social aid from the government and family, often using us as a reason, yet she chose to have four kids with no husband. Not one of the first tour of us ever became an alcoholic. All four of us have worked and not been on welfare. Only the 5th child became an addict and a drunkard, yet he never lived witth Mother when she was still a drunkard, only a welfare mother, and he has spent time in prison, the only one of us to do so, yet he knew his father, lousy as he was.

People choose. Poverty makes choosing crime and indolence less stigmatized, but it nonetheless is a choice to not support self. And when it includes violent crime, society has every right, and an obligation, to deprive that criminal of liberty.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Someone who can walk all over town can surely work a job? And someone too fat to work can surely work a desk job?

She can also serve as a backstop for those Slip-n-Slide parties in the summer.

 

[Kahaih]

Someone who can walk all over town can surely work a job?

Let's see; dumber than painted masonry, and can walk all over town?

I think I know where you're going with this. You're thinking USPS worker, aren't you?

Okay, I'll give you a 'maybe', then.

 

[unloadonme]

Someone who can walk all over town can surely work a job?

He may be able to walk but not think.

 

[Dominus]

He may be able to walk but not think.

Oh come on. Even grocery stores hire people with down syndrome.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Oh come on. Even grocery stores hire people with down syndrome.

And there may be a local Fox News affiliate.

 

[Dominus]

And there may be a local Fox News affiliate.

Nah, I'm not going to stir up poop.

 

[NotHardUp1]

Nah, I'm not going to stir up poop.

You won't need to if there is a Fox station.

 

[Peloso]

It is the ultimate passive income.

. . said the landlord.

 

[Dominus]

. . said the landlord.

I worked long and hard to acquire enough properties to do what I do. And I'm actually providing goods and services. I dare say this is not the same as eating myself to 500 lbs and get public assistance because I'm now too fat, sick, and immobile to work.

 

[rareboy]

I'm having a lot of hard time comprehending how a 13 yr old could do all those things he did.

I don't know if I mentioned this before. The little turdtard was already on probation for setting someone's house on fire. No one got hurt. The fire was put out right away.

Again, it's hard for me to comprehend a little kid (yes, 13 yr old is a little kid) setting someone's house on fire or raping 6 yr old girls.

Like you said, this could very well be a child sociopath. Can't tell the difference between right and wrong. Can't tell that hurting another person is wrong.

I've seen programs on TV about problem children and incarcerated kids who committed heinous crimes. I never thought I would run into one of these turdbags.

The parents live in a 2br apartment. There are other people there. There's a young couple with a new born in another 2br apartment there. I'm not sure I feel comfortable having a sociopathic child living there anymore. I mean, in 4 months he will be back (assuming he doesn't mess up in the youth detention center). What other things he's gonna do?

I guess I'm feeling a bit disturbed by this event.

It is all about neurology and brain function. And then to a lesser degree, proramming.

You have a hard time imgaining this because you are neither programmed or educated to understand this.

And there is zero sense and nothing to be gained by trying to comprehend this.

Go ahead. Feel disturbed. But don't try to go galloping about on some kind of moral high horse. This is a case of severe mental illness. And there is nothing that can be done about this outside of drugs and thousands of hours of counselling...but he will still likely end up being hired by ICE.