What would you do if someone (ie me) asked to use a condom even for oral?

[luckynumbah7]

Somewhere along the line, I'm missing the point of this post????

Vitamin argued in a different thread that when two people have consensual sex and one contracts hiv from another because one partner didn't tell the other sti status, the only one responsible for their choice to fuck sans condom is the one whose transferred the hiv, not the one who was given it. I believe it was the "Intentionally spreads HIV and blames victim in court room' one.

In other words, like the rest of his posts on the topic it was a particularly bad potshot, this one at moi since I said "No, I wouldn't give a blowjob without a condom, and here's a short list of some of the reasons why."

If he wants a longer list he could stand to look up sti and gay men statistics.

 

[Vitamin]

Vitamin argued in a different thread that when two people have sex and one contracts hiv from another, the only one responsible for their choice to fuck sans condom is the one whose transferred the hiv, not the one who was given it. I believe it was the "Intentionally spreads HIV and blames victim in court room' one.

And as any moron should be able to tell from the title of the thread it's about the CONTEXT of which I was arguing from, which you, and many others repeatedly dismissed and ignored.

The thread lucky gave is about a California man who was intentionally spreading HIV to others while lying about his status. For this, he was given a whopping SIX MONTHS in prison, the maximum amount allowed under California law. The (presumably) heterosexual judge said she wished she could have given more time for his crime, but she is only limited by what the state legislature allows her to do.

Now any pro-gay fool should have walked into that thread like, "WTF? Six months?", and indeed that was what the thread was originally about(aside from one poster, MouthofKaos, I think, who at least had the balls to admit he didn't actually read the article). It wasn't until Soilwork came in, and started slut-shaming the victim that somehow drew out TONS of echos about how right he was to blame the victim. Then JayQueer made some weird comparison to rape, and shit really started going downhill after that. That's when I walked in.

Honestly, I probably should've have left well enough alone, but I couldn't help it. Not all of the people in that thread were the usual suspects of self-hate. A lot of them were actually people that I had tremendous amount of respect for.

Look, these rationalizations were just preposterously unhelpful. They were all like, "Oh, well, I don't support what this guy did BUT..." followed by paragraphs of slut shaming. It literally made no fucking sense in CONTEXT of what the thread was about.

I mean, it would be like if I said this in a gay marriage discussion thread: "I support gay marriage, BUT if you think about it guys, being equal means being exactly same thing. 1=1 not 1=1.1 or 0.9. Therefore two men, or two women who get married can never possibly be equal to a heterosexual couple because they don't have the exact same body parts."

Seriously, how is this fucking helpful AT ALL???

I'm going to have to just assume half of JUB never read that article, otherwise I'm going to go batshit crazy losing respect for so many people here.

 

[G-Lexington]

If you were a hook-up, I'd presumably say "Well, I prefer my oral sex without condoms. We could either stick with manual, or perhaps we'd best find somebody else."

If I were dating you, and you wanted to insist on a condom for oral - for either of us - I'd presumably try to convince you otherwise, because I think insisting on condoms-with-oral is a bit overly safe. But if I liked you enough, I presumably would do it with condoms a few times to see how it went.

Lex

 

[Harke the Boeotarch]

I'd be glad to oblige, but they never ask.

 

[SC6201]

Do what ya want...but I received Herpes Type 2 from my FIRST EVER sexual encounter which was oral only....and didn't swallow...and this was was not from a random hookup site.

Talk about putting a crimp in your sex life!

It happens.

 

[MoufOfKhaos]

Are you still gonna suck my dick?

Been sucked with a condom on before. If you know what the fuck you're doing, I can still cum without having to send you home to use my hand instead.

I PREFER you not have me use one though, because I find it unneeded. But then again, I prefer guys brush their damn teeth before they put their mouth on my dick too, because I don't like smelling what you ate last.

 

[eddielee]

If wearing a condom during oral sex is the only way my partner would be comfortable, I would comply with his wishes.

 

[72-Jay]

I would consider you a smart guy.
I wouldn't be looking for sex anyway .. and deff wouldn't even consider anything without protection

 

[Soilwork]

I would say no. You can have your limits but I can have mine.

Even using condoms for oral... would just be bad sex for me.

 

[kevbo]

I'd rather taste a dick than latex

 

[bankside]

Would you laugh? Go along with it reluctantly? Or would you be all for it?

It was really simple to meet my guy, get to know him, realise he was the kind of man able to exercise some self-control, know a bit about his history, and then know that I wasn't then, and I wasn't in the future, going to get an STD from him. It's easy for me not to stick my penis in random strangers, and it's the same for him. That means I get to slurp down on his tasty cock and drink back on an explosion of cum, without risk to my health. Glad to do the same for him.

To me that's easier than dealing with condoms.

 

[LeicsDom]

Would you laugh? Go along with it reluctantly? Or would you be all for it?

My thought (and it has happened a few times) is that if you are so neurotic as to insist/want a condom for oral then you are never going to relax enough to enjoy sex. Therefore I am not interested

 

[LeicsDom]

But then again, I prefer guys brush their damn teeth before they put their mouth on my dick too, because I don't like smelling what you ate last.

You should not give oral for several hours after brushing your teeth
Us a mouthwash

 

[nafhoosier]

You should not give oral for several hours after brushing your teeth
Us a mouthwash

Not saying you're one of them at all, but if a person says stuff like that and at the same time insists on not using a condom for oral, then they need their head examined.

If you're going to abide by these "don't do this, don't do that" theoretical stuff for oral to minimize an already low risk, just use a freaking condom or don't hook up at all.

You're either comfortable with saying "oral is low risk" and accepting that there's still a risk based on your choice to ditch a condom, or you're not. I'm the kind that is not comfortable and would insist on using a condom for oral because I wouldn't be OK with the "what if?" stuff that may haunt me.

FYI - using mouthwash before or after unprotected oral sex can remove the properties from saliva that help protect you from HIV particles. So.... Again, it is your choice, but play at your own risk and comfort.

 

[Beachguyj]

No way, I did it once in the 90s as a favor to the other guy, I was out playing and a guy slipped one on for me to blow him and I just walked away. I'm not putting plastic or rubber or whatever in my mouth to give a BJ.

 

[mbamike]

I use condoms all the time for anal, but never for oral. So, if the top insisted using condoms for oral, I would give him a hand job until he is hard, put a condom on his hard cock, then allow him to fuck me. No, need to go without some cock when it's handy.