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What's so wrong with therapy?

It's good for one who needs it. I found myself in deep depression about 15 yrs. ago, I found a therapist that I could relate to and saw him for about a year.
It was really a matter of sorting things out and getting some anger out in the open to deal with it. So I believe that therapy works well if used in the right way.
 
A lot of times people get used to whatever prison they have made for themselves....because it is safe...and they can't see that it is their own doing and with help...it can be undone. A lot of people don't want help

In my opinion...everyone is their own worst enemy...and there is also the potential at least to be our own best friend...

Creating chaos and living inside yourself is a comfort zone for a lot of people.

Another big one...playing the role of a victim. Once you are tuned in..you can see it unfold..by the numbers...as they set up each situation and pretend it just "happened to them". Pointing it out to them is never welcome...so therapy is out of the question....

Very interesting analysis, and quite possibly all true in my case (although I myself actually DO see a therapist) but nevertheless there is a great deal of truth in where your own mind, through introspection, and rumination, creates its own 'narrative' - which in my case is an unshakeable belief that I have no control over events in my own life, and no ability to effect any change - and so therefore I do nothing, beyond staying in bed most of every day, and being on the laptop most of every day (a confession I don't think I've ever made on this forum before)

What is especially ridiculous in my case is that in the past, I HAVE already proved MYSELF wrong in this belief, back in 2010, when this very forum was the single biggest instigator of change in my life - by surfacing the colossally huge and deep emotion in me to want to come out, and be gay, and proud - and I DID, and I moved away from home, and I joined sports groups, and I did umpteen other things in 2010 in this totally different mindset....

....and YET, to my deep frustration and annoyance, the old belief system has crept back in over the last few years, and all the impetus for change and progress had stopped. What is most ridiulous of all is that I can tell you all this, and see it all perfectly, but STILL do not seem capable of finding an answer or a solution.

The coming out process was a uniquely powerful emotion for me, a massive strong desire, that drove me on, motivated me, and 'overrode' my usual introspective thought processes about not having control or ability to change. And so I found myself instinctively acting, and doing, and going, and getting. And all without over-analysis and introspection. I wish I knew how to get that spirit back.
 
The coming out process was a uniquely powerful emotion for me, a massive strong desire, that drove me on, motivated me, and 'overrode' my usual introspective thought processes about not having control or ability to change. And so I found myself instinctively acting, and doing, and going, and getting. And all without over-analysis and introspection. I wish I knew how to get that spirit back.

I remember your beginnings here, and you showed the same analytical view of your circumstances (in the closet), the same careful introspection, and the same frustration with the status quo that you are now describing about the present day.

Noting that you overcame all that and did actually come out, maybe this is simply your process for digging yourself out of any rut. Maybe you're just not the type to jump out of a rut. You look before you leap.

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I guess my point is, theres no point suffering without trying "something".

Sometimes a professional is needed.

I absolutely agree with this.
 
Very interesting analysis, and quite possibly all true in my case (although I myself actually DO see a therapist) but nevertheless there is a great deal of truth in where your own mind, through introspection, and rumination, creates its own 'narrative' - which in my case is an unshakeable belief that I have no control over events in my own life, and no ability to effect any change - and so therefore I do nothing, beyond staying in bed most of every day, and being on the laptop most of every day (a confession I don't think I've ever made on this forum before)

What is especially ridiculous in my case is that in the past, I HAVE already proved MYSELF wrong in this belief, back in 2010, when this very forum was the single biggest instigator of change in my life - by surfacing the colossally huge and deep emotion in me to want to come out, and be gay, and proud - and I DID, and I moved away from home, and I joined sports groups, and I did umpteen other things in 2010 in this totally different mindset....

....and YET, to my deep frustration and annoyance, the old belief system has crept back in over the last few years, and all the impetus for change and progress had stopped. What is most ridiulous of all is that I can tell you all this, and see it all perfectly, but STILL do not seem capable of finding an answer or a solution.

The coming out process was a uniquely powerful emotion for me, a massive strong desire, that drove me on, motivated me, and 'overrode' my usual introspective thought processes about not having control or ability to change. And so I found myself instinctively acting, and doing, and going, and getting. And all without over-analysis and introspection. I wish I knew how to get that spirit back.

I've said that one comes out of the closet when the burden of staying in outweighs the sense of safety and comfort. And I'm assuming the situation is pretty much the same for you now. Perhaps you're just not there yet.

Lex
 
Additionally, psychotherapy or therapy of any kind is not the same stigma it once was.

My family got to deal with mental illness in the early 80s. Even then they were saying "the stigma isn't what it once was."

That seemed so fucking obvious to me.... mental health is just a question of health or illness like whether a person has a sprained ankle requiring bedrest and crutches, or diabetes, requiring on-going care and periodic monitoring. It isn't a character defect.

But the thing is, that seems so fucking obvious to me that I actually lose patience when I hear about "fighting the stigma" in 2015.

People were saying 30 years ago the stigma was dead. Because, at least in my mind, it was dead. I mean they covered it to death on Donahue ferchrissakes. We got it.

Do I live in a magic bubble of enlightenment or something? Have people become stupider?
 
My family got to deal with mental illness in the early 80s. Even then they were saying "the stigma isn't what it once was."

That seemed so fucking obvious to me.... mental health is just a question of health or illness like whether a person has a sprained ankle requiring bedrest and crutches, or diabetes, requiring on-going care and periodic monitoring. It isn't a character defect.

But the thing is, that seems so fucking obvious to me that I actually lose patience when I hear about "fighting the stigma" in 2015.

People were saying 30 years ago the stigma was dead. Because, at least in my mind, it was dead. I mean they covered it to death on Donahue ferchrissakes. We got it.

Do I live in a magic bubble of enlightenment or something? Have people become stupider?

In the 80s, we Americans closed down a lot of mental hospitals and turned the people out onto the streets. I have a feeling that didn't help matters any.

Lex
 
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Do you know that … "WASPy" … Australian JUBer (having an Irish nickname, irritatingly, since he hates Catholics) who vigorously denies that he has any convicts among his ancestors? Hm, perhaps not a lie, since there are other possibilities:

Although not confined behind bars, most convicts in Australia had an extremely tough life. The guards who volunteered for duty in Australia seemed to be driven by exceptional sadism. Even small violations of the rules could result in a punishment of 100 lashes by the cat o’nine tails. It was said that blood was usually drawn after five lashes and convicts ended up walking home in boots filled with their own blood–that is, if they were able to walk at all.
 
What's so wrong with therapy?

Is the therapy free?
People don't want to pay for chit chat if they don't have a serious illness.

In my country sometimes the NHS offers it.
 
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