What's with the porn avatars?

[Kulindahr]

I'm running out of patience. Stick to the damn topic or stay out of the thread. Enough baiting and presonal, petty bullshit! Am I understood?!

Sorry.
Ignorance and prejudice on this topic get me going.

 

[Kulindahr]

Note everything highlighted in Red. That's what my page opens up to, the forum, and I come here for the forum, but I also come here for the porn.
You're suggesting what some are suggesting about YOUR avatar as well.
There's a contradiction here.

My avatar is something that would be legal and decent parading down the street with.
I'm objecting to things that would NOT be legal or decent to parade down the street with.

Where's the contradiction?

Show me somewhere that flashing in a manner meant to draw a sexual response ore with sexual meaning is legal and acceptable, and I'll grant there's a contradiction.

 

[Soilwork]

whha... mommy.... I went to a gay porn site and there's PORN on it.

 

[Apollo]

Hmmm actually, JUB is a porn site. The owners specifically created it as a porn site. The main page is completely porn actually. IDK if you actually go there often, I mean I don't, but I just did and it has porn pretty much all over it. I mean the very top is the latest on the board, but that is one element that can be considered "non-porn" the rest is all porn.

I mean the reviews are all about porn, the Directory has a lot of porn in it, although it does have some nice links to some cool gay blogs. Although seriously, pretty much all gay blogs will at some point mention a hot guy, or show off a hot guy.

JUB mag is pretty much all about porn, and if not porn than showing off some hot hunk or twink.

I mean, FORT which is for TV shows if geared around people who love to talk about their favorite TV shows. I went there for Big Brother, and enjoyed the discussions. But if you scrolled down to the General Section, you didn't have to talk about a TV show, still peoples avatars showed, guess what, TV shows and other things.

On ALL message board that allow avatars, and I mean every single one. The avatar is viewed in all sections of the message board. This is simply how the code is written. This IS a porn site. People come here for porn. Its how JUB makes it's money, selling porn. Its how they make their living.

The avatars are something people use to express themselves. Your "Gun Owners of America" is a political avatar. Don't try to say that it isn't because it is. People argue and debate over whether we should have stronger gun control or just plain ban gun ownership by private Americans all the time. And you have obviously taken your stand on the issue. So wouldn't you say that your avatar should be only viewed in politics section?

 

[Kulindahr]

No offense to my buddy Kul, but I like the porn avatars as you can tell my the one I'm sporting. Also I'd just like to add...Guns don't kill people, People kill people.

I backed up in the thread to use your avatar as an illustration.
If it was a pic of a naked guy sitting having coffee, who happened to have an erection, it would be no big deal -- as is told to newbies at nude beaches, erections happen, it;s natural, don't freak out... but don't flaunt it.
The stud in your avatar is clearly flaunting it, and that's what I'm objecting to. A pic of a naked baseball player swinging at a pitch, or a nude volleyball player going up for a spike, or a nude wind surfer, skateboarder, rock climber, or even grocery shopper, would be fine -- those are normal life, something I might actually encounter as legal activity. But if I were at the river and touched myself the way the guy in your avatar is, I'd be a felon, and probably, in quite a few states, a sex offender.

 

[Kulindahr]

whha... mommy.... I went to a gay porn site and there's PORN on it.

Soil, it doesn't say "A Porn Site for Gay Men" -- it says "Entertainment for Gay Men". I've already pointed out the fallacy of equating the two.

I didn't go to a porn site, I went to the best danged forum site for gay men that exists. And as someone said, if I wanted to see someone's ass or cock, I'd ask.

By coming to forums, I ask to see discussion. If I wanted to see porn, I'd go to look for it.

 

[Apollo]

This is a porn site for gay men. The forum is simply a add on that the owners thought would be cool. It's not their main focus though. They are too busy selling porn as "Entertainment for Gay Men"

 

[Apollo]

Hmm, it seem Kul is backing all his arguements up with laws in the real world. JUB has its own rules that we must follow or else we are not allowed on the site. No where in their rules which are the rules that govern this board (not the U.S. constitution) does it say a member cannot display a picture of a sexual act or something meant to arouse another person.

I would also like to point out this is a international board, not a US one. And I believe in some countries your avatar would be considered illegal in their countries seeing how regular civilians aren't allowed to own a gun.

 

[Apollo]

Do those German ads show the whole thing, or like in movies -- you can tell what's going on, but it isn't focused on, isn't meant to stimulate?

are you serious? it is totally meant to stimulate the person. they wouldn't have the scene there if they didnt want the people to get a little aroused over the SEX scene taking place.

 

[Kulindahr]

This is a porn site for gay men. The forum is simply a add on that the owners thought would be cool. It's not their main focus though. They are too busy selling porn as "Entertainment for Gay Men"

Maybe you should tell the owners that they labeled their site wrong, then. "Entertainment for Gay Men" does not equal porn -- I've pointed out that fallacy already. And if you follow other threads, there's on here where it becomes plain that numerous guys in the forums don't come to JUB for porn at all, and don't go through the main page because they don't want to see that.

They come for the "JustUsBoys.com Gay Community".

And here's one very good reason for banning porn from avatars: I showed the JUB forums to a counselor in Portland, Oregon, who deals with gay men pretty much exclusively. He loved the discussions in the "safe zone", and wished he could send many of his clients there, because much of what they bring to him is dealt with there very well.

But he can't use it, can't put up a notice about it, can't even recommend it -- because there's porn even in the "safe" forums.

Even the Men's Wellness Center in Portland told me they'd love to recommend JUB, because of those forums especially, but for all the non-porn forums, but I was also told they can't recommend anything that contains porn. If there were no porn in the non-porn forums, they'd put up a notice about JUB quite enthusiastically.

These restrictions are because of ethics, because most of the human race recognizes that porn is not exactly an edifying, uplifting enterprise.

 

[Apollo]

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Originally Posted by BlackWolf View Post
This is a porn site for gay men. The forum is simply a add on that the owners thought would be cool. It's not their main focus though. They are too busy selling porn as "Entertainment for Gay Men"
Maybe you should tell the owners that they labeled their site wrong, then. "Entertainment for Gay Men" does not equal porn -- I've pointed out that fallacy already. And if you follow other threads, there's on here where it becomes plain that numerous guys in the forums don't come to JUB for porn at all, and don't go through the main page because they don't want to see that.

They come for the "JustUsBoys.com Gay Community".

And here's one very good reason for banning porn from avatars: I showed the JUB forums to a counselor in Portland, Oregon, who deals with gay men pretty much exclusively. He loved the discussions in the "safe zone", and wished he could send many of his clients there, because much of what they bring to him is dealt with there very well.

But he can't use it, can't put up a notice about it, can't even recommend it -- because there's porn even in the "safe" forums.

Even the Men's Wellness Center in Portland told me they'd love to recommend JUB, because of those forums especially, but for all the non-porn forums, but I was also told they can't recommend anything that contains porn. If there were no porn in the non-porn forums, they'd put up a notice about JUB quite enthusiastically.

These restrictions are because of ethics, because most of the human race recognizes that porn is not exactly an edifying, uplifting enterprise.
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The counslers in Portland, Oregon are right not to recommend this site seeing how it is meant for gay porn.

There are many aspects to Gay Entertainment, and one of them is gay porn. That is the side of "Gay Entertainment" the owners have chosen to show.

I actually circumvent the main page as well. My link to JUB comes straight to the forums. I actually came here only for the discussion and I might go down to the porn section occasionally, but I have never been bothered by the showings of sexual acts or naked men in the avatars ever. I still don't understand why you do. Like I pointed out in a previous post, if this is all about the law then maybe you should go read the law of JUB which is what the admins and mods go by.

EDIT:// also some of the mods reside in countries outside the United States and in their laws, it is illegal for private citizens to own guns.

 

[Soilwork]

We obviously have a problem in understanding why JUB is here.

JustUsBoys.com was re-named from a porn link list about two and a half years ago that was called LinkMeAllOver.ca

yes, JUB is a Canadian site. Go figure.

IT was all about porn, and the forums were there to create traffic, get people interested in coming back and seeing porn... it was a porn site then and it's a porn site now.

The forum did eventually grow... as more and more topics came up, it was necessary to separate them so that regualr conversations could take place.. it was to keep the peace so more people would come to the site and there would be more traffic.

but the point was ALWAYS to have JUB a porn site that sells memberships to gay paysites. That's it... that's all.. JUB isn't here as a service to the community and JUB isn't here to make the jobs of counsellors more easy.





MOST of all, it makes me kinda angry that your counsellor friends won't reccomend JUB... they're helping perpetuate the idea that gay men can be gay so long as they don't get turned on, have sex and are ashamed of their natual sexuality.

 

[springboksfan]

You were all warned to keep this thread on topic--that of avatars, not guns. If you want to discuss guns, do it in another thread. Understood?

Those posts that came after my warning have been removed to be included in another thread--if I decide to open it up. This is the last time I will say this.

This thread is for discussing the merits of pornographic avatars in relation to the code of conduct. All other discussions will be removed.

 

[evil_danger]

Jub is first a porn site, it always has been, right from the days it was "Link Me All Over" (who here remembers that?) To ban porn Avatars could do more force more people away than it brings in.

Even on the Top of this page there is a porn banner. There would have to be a serious renovation for Jub to not have any pornographic content, or links to porn even on the non porn forums.

 

[springboksfan]

Okay, given Firefox for a browser, how do I turn off selected avatars?

Kuli, you have to install the adblock plug in then you can right click on the avatars you don't want to see and add them to your blocked images list. PM me and I'll give you details, if you want.

 

[RicanDAB]

The stud in your avatar is clearly flaunting it, and that's what I'm objecting to. But if I were at the river and touched myself the way the guy in your avatar is, I'd be a felon, and probably, in quite a few states, a sex offender.

Interesting how you object to these types of avatars but took the time to observe cockman's enough to illustrate a point so descriptively. Just an observation.

Soil, it doesn't say "A Porn Site for Gay Men" -- it says "Entertainment for Gay Men". I've already pointed out the fallacy of equating the two.

My bookmark to this site is directly to the forums, and this is also my primary reason for visiting. However, the porn for me is a bonus and I do not mind having it around. I just simply ignore discussions or photos I find offensive. Live and let live. Moreover, "entertainment" these days has become so synonymous with sex when tied to the word "men" in general. I.e, gentlemen's entertainment club: they're not going there to ride the ferris wheel!

Maybe I can suggest that you leave JUB and go find a board which is populated by paranoid homos who are afraid of porn.

I have to agree with Soilwork here on a less expressive level. I don't believe JUB is going to end up reducing the porn images anytime soon. No pun intended, but no one is putting a gun to your head to be here and endure the porn and objectionable avatars that you do not want to see. The internet is vast, beyond imagination. I would imagine there are other gay male message boards out there that have the safe haven from porn that you would be happy in. Not that I would want to see you go, since I have had interesting exchanges with you in the past. But if the excess of porn is making you unhappy, why endure it for the sake of trying to have rational discussions?

I think suppressing images with your browser may help a lot .. will you be trying that?

 

[rareboy]

I don't understand...it is okay to bear arms but not to bare cocks or ass?

 

[1st love ron]

I have to agree with Kuli. They are in bad taste and add a "sleaze factor" to the site.

 

[RicanDAB]

I simply don't understand ...

If one does not like a message board with porn avatars and pictures everywhere then why become or remain a member?

Can someone enlighten me???

 

[lyconthrope]

I was actually wondering myself why this is an issue now? and why people who dont like it have "put up with it" for so long if they find it offensive/dis-tasteful in some way