What's your take on straight guys who watch gay porn?

[nihon5]

im 100% straight, i have a girlfriend, and we have sex. Yet i still watch gay porn, i dont know what it is about it but it turns me on way more than str8 porn. For me, personally, straight porn is the same thing everytime. all of the vaginas look the same and boobs are just boobs, but with guys, theres different sizes of dicks, different muscles and its just.. more intresting. ive even cammed we men, i think its just a fetish, because i cant picture myself having intercourse with a man.

let me know what you think

 

[whatdidyousay]

Bankside, dude, I'm in awe of your post.

I would like to know, what exactly is it that excites you about gay porn if you find the right clip? Is it the guys, the positions or the sexual tension?|

Great question! If it's two masculine guys, and they seem really into it, it's just the raw sexual energy. As a guy you know what a guy is feeling, and if they seem to be REALLY into it, I get that it must feel fucking good. And it's just so...taboo. I find some taboo things exciting sometimes, if I'm in the mood. I find looking at things I'm technically not "suppose" to, kinda naughty and kinky. It's very different than any straight porn, a totally different beast. It's a way of seeing men that just isn't standard in my life. Especially the sight of a masculine guy being fucked by a man...that's just so unreal, and off the radar, no matter how many times I see it. It's definitely the action of a thing; the energy between two people. Otherwise I can appreciate the attractiveness of a man, but there's nothing about seeing a man's body nude, or the sight of cock, balls, ass, etc, that makes me want to engage with a man sexually. I mean I don't find the male form revolting at all, human beings period are beautifully made, but I'm not inspired to have sex by the sight of it.

I watch it differently than I do straight porn. Straight porn makes me envision being in the action, wanting to fuck, I relate to what's happening. I jack to straight porn. Gay/bi porn I generally don't jack to. I don't try not to, it just doesn't really naturally happen. It's a voyeuristic experience. It's exciting to just observe. I can relate to the pleasure of what it feels like to be a man having a good time sexually, but the experience is foreign and totally unrelatable. But if I'm in the mood that's kinda what makes it hot. That it's so different, so far outside of the scope of my sexual reality.

 

[trinket]

I thought this piece interesting:

"Straight men love penis"
A new study which investigated pornography viewing habits has found that straight men are as aroused by penises as gay men.
http://aaronandandy.com/index.php/straight-men-love-penis/

in some ways- when you're watching 'str8' porn, you're kinda watching gay porn.....they show extreme close ups of a cock being sucked- for all you know, it could be a guy servicing it....they ALWAYS focus on the cum shot and the guys are getting better looking and the camera lingers more on their bodies....

Yes - to your point, I read/heard on the radio a few years ago about a study that some academic researchers did of a range of current "heterosexual" pornography where they analyzed and cataloged all shots and edits, and they found that it statistically actually focused more on the male; more close-ups of the dick, the guy's ass when banging a girl, the guy's facial expressions, etc. I mean, if a guy didn't want to see a guy at all in porn, they would watch exclusively lesbian (or solo girl) porn, right?

This study theorized you can't 100% necessarily jump to some homosexual subtext or attraction, though (though that may be there) - just the mechanics of trying to film a sex scene guarantees you're going to see the guys' junk, and maybe there's kind of a "putting yourself in place of the guy" thing so people who watch porn can fantasize about being that guy. Also, in some ways they probably don't want to personalize the girl too much or show her genuine pleasure (not that she has genuine pleasure in a scene, often) - they want to keep her kind of a fantasy and being used for sex/as an object in the scene.

Personally, a lot of straight porn is a real turn-off with the overly made-up, trashy looking, ridiculously-moaning girls they might get. Gay porn is more "realistic" and primal and pure sexual in a sense.

By the way, there's an earlier JUB thread, "If I like to watch gay porn, do thats makes me gay??" that goes nicely along with this one, with some good observations and thoughts from others posting in it. I remembered posting into it before, heh:

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=323199

 

[hamwise]

I have yet to meet a straight guy who admits to watching and getting off on gay porn.

Just because you havent met one, and none of them have admitted it to you does not mean it does not exist.

I am a straight man, I am in a long term relationship with a woman with whom I enjoy a healthy sex life. I have had several gay experiences, and came away from all of them having not enjoyed it. I don't know why, i don't have the answer. I am not repulsed by gay sex, and I am a homophobe. In fact, gay sex is often a part of my fantasies, and yes, I do enjoy gay porn, a lot.

I cannot explain why gay sex is such a turn on to watch, or even fantasize about, and yet doesn't translate that way for me in reality. But I also know a lot of women fnatasize about other women, but don't desire to actually have sex with them, and no one even questions that.

 

[trinket]

I am not repulsed by gay sex, and I am a homophobe.

Hmm, you're a homophobe? It makes me think of this article, perhaps - might apply to you?

Study Finds Homophobes Most Aroused By Gay Porn
"A new study has found that men who held extreme negative opinions about gay people were often most turned on while viewing gay porn."

 

[Singularity]

Just because you havent met one, and none of them have admitted it to you does not mean it does not exist.

I am a straight man, I am in a long term relationship with a woman with whom I enjoy a healthy sex life. I have had several gay experiences, and came away from all of them having not enjoyed it. I don't know why, i don't have the answer. I am not repulsed by gay sex, and I am a homophobe. In fact, gay sex is often a part of my fantasies, and yes, I do enjoy gay porn, a lot.

I cannot explain why gay sex is such a turn on to watch, or even fantasize about, and yet doesn't translate that way for me in reality. But I also know a lot of women fnatasize about other women, but don't desire to actually have sex with them, and no one even questions that.

You can't be turned on by gay sex and be a homophobe, you've got to pick a side of the fence.

How did these gay experiences come about if you don't mind me asking? And what exactly made them not enjoyable? The fact you were with a man or the sexual act itself?

 

[Hot4Latinos]

I knew a str8 guy once who watched gay porn with his g/f. I just assumed it was an attempt to turn her on. Turned out it turned him on too.

 

[Singularity]

I watch it differently than I do straight porn. Straight porn makes me envision being in the action, wanting to fuck, I relate to what's happening. I jack to straight porn. Gay/bi porn I generally don't jack to. I don't try not to, it just doesn't really naturally happen. It's a voyeuristic experience. It's exciting to just observe. I can relate to the pleasure of what it feels like to be a man having a good time sexually, but the experience is foreign and totally unrelatable. But if I'm in the mood that's kinda what makes it hot. That it's so different, so far outside of the scope of my sexual reality.

Thank you for this elaborate insight. I'm always intrigued how straight men work mentally in regards to homosexuality.

Would you consider yourself bi-curious, though on the sidelines of bisexuality but either physically or mentally unable to step outside the boundary even for once? I identify as gay but I can imagine myself with a woman but that's about it. I can cuddle and - under the right circumstances with the right girl (redheads have something about them) - maybe go in for a kiss, but I could not get myself to go any further sexually.

 

[aberro21]

im 100% straight, i have a girlfriend, and we have sex. Yet i still watch gay porn, i dont know what it is about it but it turns me on way more than str8 porn. For me, personally, straight porn is the same thing everytime. all of the vaginas look the same and boobs are just boobs, but with guys, theres different sizes of dicks, different muscles and its just.. more intresting. ive even cammed we men, i think its just a fetish, because i cant picture myself having intercourse with a man.

let me know what you think

I think you should try it, I have a feeling you'll like it. I also have female friends that I fuck and I like watching gay porn because of all the hot gay sex. I think a lot people just don't like to be labeled gay or bi. "100% straight" maybe a bit of a stretch. I think of myself as around 60/40 straight.

 

[curiousbob]

erm.... lets stop using labels we are all individuals. we all see the world from our own unique view. our perception of how we compare our selves against our peer groups is also unique. Be happy and comfortable with who you are, forget the bullshit labelling, gay , straight etc. and yes i get off on seeing cocks and cunts and tits and arses and those lucky few who are blessed with tits and cocks totally blow my tiny mind as well as my bollocks

 

[DafyddGeraint]

I am a straight man, I am in a long term relationship with a woman with whom I enjoy a healthy sex life. I have had several gay experiences, and came away from all of them having not enjoyed it. I don't know why, i don't have the answer. I am not repulsed by gay sex, and I am a homophobe. In fact, gay sex is often a part of my fantasies, and yes, I do enjoy gay porn, a lot.

Far be it from me to put words in peoples mouths but Trinket and Singularity may wish to check his wording in the context of hamwise's post. I think from the context of the post he meant and I am NOT a homophobe. I will stand corrected but I believe thats a typo. THe context of the post is pro gay. pro gay porn just that he doesnt particularly enjoy having gay sex.



As to the main discussion, I think it is perfectly possible for 'straight'/'hetero' men to experience some degree of arousal from gay porn. As aagold76 said the focus on the cock in straight porn is so integral that its difficult to differentiate the two. Why are there niches for 'big cock' films on straight tube sites or indeed complete websites for straight big cock porn if there is no element of cock attraction in straight porn? There must be for your average Joe to jack off to some poor silicon enhanced, disproportioned, fake tanned bimbo with less convincing makeup than a particularly average drag queen, taking a ten incher up the arse and screaming in 'ecstacy' before he's even put his cock up her pussy. In a cock closeup of oral anal action, sometimes if it wasnt for the bouncing balls of the bottom or his fuzzy chin square cut jaw and adams apple you wouldnt be able to tell, and in the case of fem twinks you would be even harder pressed to tell.


I'm in a healthy sexual relationship with a woman but I jack off to gay porn, personally I find the women with their fake breasts that stay the same shape be they stood up sat down or on their backs, with that terrible gap between them that isnt a natural cleavage but more like a chasm, the horrible botoxed trout pout lips and the heavy makeup, not to mention the incessant droaning fake moans of ecstacy offputting. The ever present undertone of violent supression and domination is not appealing to any latent desire of submission or dominance but more reminiscent of rape in some porn scenes, in short much straight porn often is just a turn off not a turn on. In contrast the gay porn scene with good looking more natural if honed through many hours in the gym physiques and raw sexual energy is more appealing, yes there is violence in gay porn yes there are some pretty bad scenes with pretty appauling moaning and groaning but they just seem less crude than their straight counterparts.


Maybe I'm just weird, I find blow jobs arousing be it woman on man or man on man, penetrative intercourse be it M/F or M/M I find that arousing, but show me a man or woman licking pussy or rimming and you can pass me the sick bucket, but that could just be my complete disgust at tongues... lesbian porn does NOTHING for me. The wider point is however to quote the famous joke " I hate all sweeping statements" not every "straight" guy who looks at gay porn or even is aroused by gay porn is knocking on the closet doors, I often find it difficult to understand why people are so unwilling to accept that sexuality cannot be categorised, compartmentalised or defined, by strict linear deliniations. Its fluid and maleable and can't just be slotted onto a bipolar Kinseyian scale of sexuality- which totally ignores asexuality- its time for a shake up of opinion on sexuality, time to abandon the notion that there are three types of people, the monosexual gays and straights, and the greedy bi's in the middle who will do anything with anything. Its oldfashioned, unworkable and wrong.

 

[trinket]

There must be for your average Joe to jack off to some poor silicon enhanced, disproportioned, fake tanned bimbo with less convincing makeup than a particularly average drag queen, taking a ten incher up the arse and screaming in 'ecstacy' before he's even put his cock up her pussy...


...I find the women with their fake breasts that stay the same shape be they stood up sat down or on their backs, with that terrible gap between them that isnt a natural cleavage but more like a chasm, the horrible botoxed trout pout lips and the heavy makeup, not to mention the incessant droaning fake moans of ecstacy offputting. The ever present undertone of violent supression and domination is not appealing to any latent desire of submission or dominance but more reminiscent of rape in some porn scenes, in short much straight porn often is just a turn off not a turn on.

Very well put! The plastic porn actresses with gobs of makeup and some, often, remnants of cheap and trashy clothing remaining on isn't particularly appealing, and it seems to be such an "in" thing in porn such that sometimes it can be a struggle to find straight porn that deviates from that. But it's not surprising given that porn tries to riff on or push the envelope of what's happening in non-porn movie or celebrity circles, so as a culture we also have the likes of Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian (and Pamela Anderson before them) with vapid, empty TV/merchandising products and cheap looks (and/or plastic parts), and it's not shocking that porn tries to top this (so to speak). None of that stuff is my concept of what makes a girl interesting or beautiful or enjoyable to be in a relationship with. Of course, porn doesn't reflect reality so I realize anyone looking to porn for a slice of reality is looking in the wrong place, but when the girls start to deviate so much from many guys' tastes and the way girls around in the real world are, it's a turnoff.

I'd agree with you that in gay porn, the guys are more basic male - sure, they might have gym-heightened physiques or be manscaped/styled like crazy, but they still fit my concept of types of realistic men; whether they're muscular or twinks or whatever else.

 

[aberro21]

^^^ WOW! You two really don't like women in porn. Women in straight porn are diverse just like men in gay porn.

 

[trinket]

^^^ WOW! You two really don't like women in porn. Women in straight porn are diverse just like men in gay porn.

Now that's not the right conclusion! I love women in porn, and I'm watching clips pretty much daily or fuller-length stuff every week, but my point was that it's getting increasingly harder to find naturalistic women in major new releases (even "fringe" genres seem to be borrowing this aesthetic). I'd argue they're less diverse in look/image than, say, a decade ago, and it's not improving.

It can't be just me (and DafyddGeraint, lol) that feel this way. I've seen similar remarks on straight porn forums. One of my guy friends of a few years complains about the same thing - where's all the "girl next door" look instead of so much plastic, silicon, wigs and makeup that the girls are virtually indistinguishable from a cheap blow-up doll. What's appealing about that?

 

[whatdidyousay]

Thank you for this elaborate insight. I'm always intrigued how straight men work mentally in regards to homosexuality.

You're welcome my friend.

Would you consider yourself bi-curious, though on the sidelines of bisexuality but either physically or mentally unable to step outside the boundary even for once?

I'll answer best I can.

I call myself straight because that best fits my sexual experience/desire. It's a rounding category really, just the closest fit. All my sexual experiences are with women. I can't really see the point of redefining my whole sexual identity based off the viewing of the one off gay/bi porn clip every once in awhile, you know? Seems like it would take more than that.

I love men, I have great relationships with men, and have great emotional connections with the men in my life. I am physically open with other men and affectionate, and don't have a lot of the typical bullshit faux macho barriers that block the natural, healthy flow between people who care about each other. But I have zero sexual experience with men. It's definitely not from a lack of opportunity, because I've definitely been hit on hard, and have had the option pushed blatantly my way. It's just not something that I find tempting. Flattering, of course, but not enticing.

Could I be "able" to? Sure. I think almost anyone is "able" to have sex with anyone. I definitely can't even imagine having sex with some random man; it would have to be a very close friend who I shared some kind of bond with. I don't fantasize about gay sex, but the "what if" thought definitely has crossed my mind, and I know that even hypothetically it would have to be with someone who I trusted and was connected to.

But would I be willing, even once? I highly doubt it. I haven't wanted to up to this point, and I'm very happily married now and don't believe in stepping out.

 

[whatdidyousay]

Now that's not the right conclusion! I love women in porn, and I'm watching clips pretty much daily or fuller-length stuff every week, but my point was that it's getting increasingly harder to find naturalistic women in major new releases (even "fringe" genres seem to be borrowing this aesthetic). I'd argue they're less diverse in look/image than, say, a decade ago, and it's not improving.

It can't be just me (and DafyddGeraint, lol) that feel this way. I've seen similar remarks on straight porn forums. One of my guy friends of a few years complains about the same thing - where's all the "girl next door" look instead of so much plastic, silicon, wigs and makeup that the girls are virtually indistinguishable from a cheap blow-up doll. What's appealing about that?

Totally right. This is the reason why I find myself looking at more amateur, no-US, and vintage porn clips. The women just look far better. Especially pull up some mainstream porn from the 70's to the early 90's, and it's kinda shocking just how much the look of women in porn has changed. The SEX in vintage straight porn is so much more raw and natural, less stylized, and the women were overall better performers and just looked better. And that's porn that was basically before my sexual time.

There are still many great looking, more natural women in porn today, but you do have to search to find it. The average mainstream porn chicks of today almost look like bad drag queens, which is very unfortunate.

 

[aberro21]

^^^^ can one of you PLEASE send me some of this incredible porn you have. i need to see what your definition of "natural women" is. Or better yet tell me if these are the type of fake women your talking about.


http://www.muscleprodigy.com/10-hottest-female-porn-star-bodies-arcl-1693.html

 

[evanrick]

maybe straight guys get tired of being dominate all the time so they watch gay porn as an escape from the straight world.

 

[aberro21]

maybe straight guys get tired of being dominate all the time so they watch gay porn as an escape from the straight world.

I guess anything is possible.

the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one.

 

[Singularity]

Far be it from me to put words in peoples mouths but Trinket and Singularity may wish to check his wording in the context of hamwise's post. I think from the context of the post he meant and I am NOT a homophobe. I will stand corrected but I believe thats a typo. The context of the post is pro gay. pro gay porn just that he doesnt particularly enjoy having gay sex.

Whatever he meant, his statement was confusing nonetheless.

As to the main discussion, I think it is perfectly possible for 'straight'/'hetero' men to experience some degree of arousal from gay porn. As aagold76 said the focus on the cock in straight porn is so integral that its difficult to differentiate the two. Why are there niches for 'big cock' films on straight tube sites or indeed complete websites for straight big cock porn if there is no element of cock attraction in straight porn? There must be for your average Joe to jack off to some poor silicon enhanced, disproportioned, fake tanned bimbo with less convincing makeup than a particularly average drag queen, taking a ten incher up the arse and screaming in 'ecstacy' before he's even put his cock up her pussy. In a cock closeup of oral anal action, sometimes if it wasnt for the bouncing balls of the bottom or his fuzzy chin square cut jaw and adams apple you wouldnt be able to tell, and in the case of fem twinks you would be even harder pressed to tell.

That very may well be and the more I peek over the fence, the more I can see how men in straight porn are getting more attention, both in their physical appearance and their screen time - the last thing a "normal" straight guy would want the focus on.

I guess, my personal issue with the facts of this discussion stem from my feeling that when I hear a straight guy gets aroused by gay porn or even trying out what he sees and liking it - despite not looking for it actively - makes me feel like he undermines my own sexuality.

I don't want to get too deep into this jungle of misconceptions, but the gist of it is that I've always feared that my exclusive attraction to men is wrong according to social views while a "normal" [straight] guy could have it anytime and get away with it.

It's so headache-inducing.

You're welcome my friend.

I'll answer best I can.

...

From What I can tell, you are on the opposite side of the spectrum in relation to me. I, too, can see the possibility of having sex with a girl, but I am only attracted to guys, both sexually and romantically. I can watch straight porn but it doesn't excite me.

Nothing wrong for you [and your sexual partner] to get some pointers.

Totally right. This is the reason why I find myself looking at more amateur, no-US, and vintage porn clips. The women just look far better. Especially pull up some mainstream porn from the 70's to the early 90's, and it's kinda shocking just how much the look of women in porn has changed. The SEX in vintage straight porn is so much more raw and natural, less stylized, and the women were overall better performers and just looked better. And that's porn that was basically before my sexual time.

There are still many great looking, more natural women in porn today, but you do have to search to find it. The average mainstream porn chicks of today almost look like bad drag queens, which is very unfortunate.

As a matter of fact, the same can be said about gay porn. Back in the 70s and 80s - and even well into the 90s - the men of gay porn were more natural and real about the sex. Now, since the G4P elite and porn star attitude has taken over, it's harder to find gay porn where they guys have sex for the sake of having sex.

Sometimes, watching all these inked and pierced muscle mountains showing off makes me wish I was born a couple of decades earlier, where porn was personal and real and not the profit-producing business it is today.