whay are people gay??

[Roland00]

Because our mommies and daddies listen to the "This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius" a little too many times

 

[kawaii]

You are born Gay, and im very happy being gay.

 

[jockboy01]

Aren't there studies that show that if identical twins are separated at birth, and one of them is gay, then there is a greater than 50% chance that the other is gay also ? If that was the case, doesn't that suggest a genetic link ?

Yes, true. But the fact that 100% were not gay suggests that it isn't pure genetics.

As to the other study... I'm not aware of it. But it doesn't sound like much more than a mere coincidence at this time without more evidence.

 

[Christopher123]

You know... we could drive ourselves crazy thinking about this. But it's not going to change anything. It's interesting (well, sorta) to think about, sure; but like I said above, we are what we are.

And you've got your ignorant people out there that wonder why we WANT to be the way we are. But that's not really their fault. Just as a straight person can't understand the homosexual lifestyle, I can't under the heterosexual lifestyle. The sex and love part of it, I guess. But gay, straight, bi, whatever, people are people. And everybody can love somebody. We just happen to love those of the same sex.

And I really don't think anyone will ever fully understand why.

 

[tallguy297]

You know... we could drive ourselves crazy thinking about this. But it's not going to change anything. It's interesting (well, sorta) to think about, sure; but like I said above, we are what we are.


And I really don't think anyone will ever fully understand why.

Mate, you are so right. I've spent a long long time wondering about this, was I born this way, did I cause it, was it my upbringing??? And all I ever got out of it was pain and guilt.

The sooner we get over looking for why and start teaching the rest of society that we the same, we are no different, we have the same values, morals, standards, desires (apart from sexually), that we contribute and have worth then the harder it is for young people and the closeted ones amongst us to accept them selves.

My mates have no choice in that some are tits men, some are ass men, some like blondes or whatever. I dont know why that is. I dont know why we are gay. Whether its genetic or hormonal or enviromental. And I'm sorta at the point where I dont care. We dont need to justify how or why we feel what we do. We just are.

The more we try to answer these questions the more we prove to the rest of society that we think we are different. And i know I'm being naive but one day I'd like to think that we can move to a point where the rest of the world realises like us that who we sleep with is only one piece of a very small puzzle.

We are real people. Who cares why.

(sorry for the rant - just woke up....very ugly!!!!!!! )

 

[Daniel_]

I guess i'm leaning toward being born gay. I just know that when it came to sexual attraction for myself, it was always towards males. I never had any sexual attraction or interest to be with a girl for as long as I can remember. That's just the way it is for me,I'll always be into guys. I cant help it and it will never change.

 

[Kurn]

Re: why are people gay??

Gentle Readers & Contributors,

Why Are People Gay?? merits more serious consideration!

This claim presupposes willful adherence to minimal standards of informed discussion. Let’s do some brief, interpretive, information-gathering before submitting comments. Envision non-cumbersome posts flavored with readily-available theories, data, and debatable conclusions about our meaty question. Groovy, eh?

Mr. Woodyard,
This subject has been treated in every conceivable way; but of course, anyone is welcome to bring it up since it's a worthwhile question to revisit now and then; often, in fact.
While statistical and experimental data are desirable, the datum of the person's heart and mind is never unwanted. That's what JUB Forum is for.

 

[icefan]

I don't know why...I didn't like guys until I was about 20...and I wasn't trying to hide it, I just had no feelings towards any guys until then

 

[Christopher123]

Mate, you are so right. I've spent a long long time wondering about this, was I born this way, did I cause it, was it my upbringing??? And all I ever got out of it was pain and guilt.

I gave up worrying about it. Because I finally realized I was only causing myself more grief. And the biggest question I'd ask myself was this - "If you COULD change... would you?"

I don't think I've ever really answered that question. I mean, think about it - why do we question ourselves in the first place? Because according to society, it's wrong. Something as simple as getting up in the morning and brushing your teeth; when you put the toothpaste on your brush and stick the brush in your mouth and do your daily scrubbing, you don't even think twice about it. But if society were to say that brushing your teeth isn't normal, we'd wonder why. Why isn't it normal? This is something I've always done so why is it wrong?

Kind of a lame example, but it's the same principle. We only question ourselves because THEY put that question there.

What if it were the other way around? What if heterosexuality was bad and homosexuality was the norm? We wouldn't question ourselves then. I mean, hets don't go around saying, "Damn, why am I straight? What happened to me? Why am I like this? Why is it wrong? Why do people despise my kind?"

Yada yada.

The more we try to answer these questions the more we prove to the rest of society that we think we are different.

Yes, we are different. To them we are different. To ourselves we are different. Well, to some of us. Gays can go around screaming we are NOT different, we're the same as you! until they're blue in the face. But we're still gonna be different.

It reminds me of the movie The Women of Brewster Place. The gay female couple. They're in their apartment arguing because one of them doesn't think (or can't accept) that she's different from everyone else. I don't recall the exact words, but she says something like, "The day before I fell in love with a woman, I got up, did blah blah blah, I put on my beige bra and I went to school. The day AFTER I fell in love with a woman, I got up, did blah blah blah (don't remember exactly what she said), I put on my beige bra and I went to school."

But her girlfriend tries to convince her that she's in denial and running from herself and tries to tell her that what she is isn't something society can accept and how she's shacked up with a woman instead of a man like most 'normal' people and she says to her, "And that makes you DAMN different."

That was a good movie, by the way.

And i know I'm being naive but one day I'd like to think that we can move to a point where the rest of the world realises like us that who we sleep with is only one piece of a very small puzzle.

Yes. A very small piece. But that's not how 'they' see it. All they see is the sexual aspect of the whole thing. Het couples go out to dinner together and have fun together and fall in love with each other and get married and have children and raise a family together - gay couples just fuck each other up the ass.

There will always be prejudice. Always. And that's just something we have to accept and deal with. Yeah, maybe the world will come together someday and everyone will love each other for who and what they are. But I think we'll be long gone by then. If the world itself isn't destroyed first.

 

[Evsann]

I do think there is some validity to being able to determine a biological imperative though, and here's why. People assume that heterosexuality is a biological imperative, and is therefore "right." Well what if the same gene makes you gay - in the same way that one little chromisome determines gender, or says what color your eyes are or whatever? What if this is the way we are, by force of nature? What then? I think that research into the biology of orientation is crucially important to the validation of the homosexual identity worldwide.

Unless of course it is proven that there is no biological connection lol...

A biological connection would just turn homosexuality into a mutation, at best and a disorder, at worst. As much ruckus as stem cell research is stirring up, watch those same people back research to detect and "correct" this in the unborn, or even in infancy.

As long as civil rights are maintained I do not think that gays would benefit from proof that it is not a choice. Take it from someone with something that is universally viewed as a disorder. Sympathy can be just as hurtful as distaste.

I mean, how would it be any different than 50 years ago when it was viewed as a mental disorder? I read about gays getting thrown into sanitariums and shocked and sedated untill "cured".

From a PR standpoint this is a question better left unsolved.

 

[amigo32]

I knew since I was bi since middeschool. Kind of confusing as a middleschooler to have a crush on a girl and guy at the same time though...because as a middleschooler I didn't even know there was such a thing as homosexuality, I vote for genetic.

 

[fed1983]

I realized I was gay at 14, but then I started discovering that in fact I was since kinder-garden attracted to boys.

The other day, an old lady that was a kind of grandma told me stories of when she took me to kinder-garden, I was around 4 or 5 years old, and she asked me:
-'where there many girls in the class today?'
and I replied kind of annoyed at her question: -'there were many BOYS as well'

That means, I was not interested in girls at all, but in boys. I don't know if I was born or made gay as a little child. I heard some theories that claim that sexual orientation is defined during the oedipus complex (when you fall in love with one of your parents, mother supposedly, and start competing with your father for her love) around the age of 4 or 5. Who knows?

 

[TorontoBoi]

We were born this way, just face it. It's genetic, hormonal, whatever you want to call it.
Science will eventually be able to prove that being gay is innate, and that will completely be a huge slap in the face for those who are against gays.

 

[CoolBlue71]

Answering those heavily into religion -- God wants it that way. For there to be people of numerous sexualities. He has diversity in mind. And your protests -- and anger -- is a waste of time.

Why are there people who are not heterosexual? During development self-realization sets in for such individuals. And attractions, fantasies, and, eventually, realities become established…that they are different from the majority of the world in not being heterosexual.

Hope this helps.

 

[Evsann]

We were born this way, just face it. It's genetic, hormonal, whatever you want to call it.
Science will eventually be able to prove that being gay is innate, and that will completely be a huge slap in the face for those who are against gays.

Based on what? I have never understood what comfort this theory brings to the table. It seems that if it could all be blamed on social engineering(sp?), one could point out that gays are not "wrong", just contrary to the accepted social "norms".

A scientific answer to such a small percentage of the population would put them in a much more negative light and fuel the fire burning the movement showing that they are not normal. The only difference is that you would be viewed as a mutation or birth defect instead of a sexual deviant.

 

[TorontoBoi]

Based on what? I have never understood what comfort this theory brings to the table. It seems that if it could all be blamed on social engineering(sp?), one could point out that gays are not "wrong", just contrary to the accepted social "norms".

A scientific answer to such a small percentage of the population would put them in a much more negative light and fuel the fire burning the movement showing that they are not normal. The only difference is that you would be viewed as a mutation or birth defect instead of a sexual deviant.

This "theory" is not there to bring comfort. It's absolutely necessary to know the the truth and scientific fact, if possible. If it can be proven that being gay is innate, then let that be. Just because you don't feel the need for an "excuse", that doesn't mean it's not important to know the reasons they are born that way.

And being known as a birth defect would be far more acceptable to society than some sexual deviant. It would make the lives of gay people so much easier, they won't have to hide in the closet and go through so much pain. Society would actually understand that they were born that way and that there is nothing to do to change that.

 

[hermanding]

I really wouldn't spend another second on the whys involving our sexuality. It just isn't worth it. If you ARE gay, go with your nature, and be the best, most honest, loving, generous, caring, although imperfect person that you can be. GAY is one part of you - you have at least a billion other fascinating parts as well. Love yourself and be proud of what you try to make of yourself. Everybody - straight, gay, bi, corn god worshipers, whatever - face horrible problems these days to survive and make something meaningful in their lives. The world as a whole has NOT embraced us, and we just have to face that and get on with living - if it means relocating to a place where there are more of us, then that really HAS to be done. But, be proud of yourself and be proud of your gay brothers and sisters. There are assholes to be sure, but that is not a by-product of one's sexuality.
Lots of love to you and for you in the future. we're all here for you. proud. head up.
ding

 

[TorontoBoi]

The world as a whole has NOT embraced us, and we just have to face that and get on with living - if it means relocating to a place where there are more of us, then that really HAS to be done. But, be proud of yourself and be proud of your gay brothers and sisters. There are assholes to be sure, but that is not a by-product of one's sexuality.

I see your point, but I think that is the worst thing gays can do. Just "facing the problem" or "relocating" is not the type of life I'd want to live. I don't want to get into the whole "gay in society" subject, but I do think it's important for the world to understand gays a little more and why we are what we are - that will lead them to embrace us more. 60 years ago, handicap people were considered vile and were even killed off in Europe in WWII. But as people's mind's opened up, they accepted them and began to treat them with respect. This is slowly happening with gays as well. (i hope!)