When people say "faggot"

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

The places I lived all my life it was a derogatory term towards gay people, so when people say they don't use it to insult gays I don't buy it because there are so many other words they could use to insult people. Yet they choose that one.

Of course there are people that might not be bothered by it, but that is not an "OK" to use it every where and not consider how other gay people might feel about it. This is just a part of these people being out of touch with any sort of perspective outside of their own selfishness.

just add
lot a "terms " world superiors of human resources use befo ans afta new labulls pirnt out fa straight up right cult ures rub a day wit
_ans a public of nice folk wot mak mor words so no smell own shit_

ans so on

anyway world ova is obvious so if fag got no mean nothin a folk ten calls ya self faggot
* hi is faggot but striaght so no snif ma anus *
£ ooh ans wot dat? £
* ya no speack a endlash? "*
! pizza nice !
£ ooh tinkyou £
! wot a tink? !
£ smile £
! yeea !

thankyou

 

[frankfrank]

Faggot is the most vulgar word you can use against a gay person, and using it to insult a straight person is not any better.

Using it "at" a straight person is imprecise, if not actually using a "wrong" word - when there are adequate big insults available that are more precise - some of them rather elegant and inventive. (Centexfarmer - now CTF - was very good at imagining new "insult" PHRASES by putting words together that had probably never been put together before, LOL.)

^^The "C" word is the most aggressive of them all.In England it sounds very aggressive when used In an argument even Big Brother won't allow their housemates to use it very often.

Cincinnati?
chimney?
contretemps?
cup? ("I went around the corner, to C. U. P.")
Oh...you clarified...actually I wasn't really sure whether it was the short word, or a rather longer one which sometimes replaces "a homosexual." It was the short word. Though, in some circumstances (IT INVOLVES CONTEXT, as well as one's knowledge of possible word origins***), I can see where "cocksucker" can be more of an insult than "faggot." Faggot is a rather "generic" word, but cocksucker is a word that wants to define us as people who never, ever do anything but have sex with each other.

***However, I've seen some derivation, which I'm not sure is true, suggesting that "faggot" came from the term for the sticks/stakes which are placed under a person who is fastened or tied to something, then set ablaze and burned to death. I think it IS true that small sticks are "faggots" or MAYBE it's "fagots." If this is a true derivation, it makes the word "faggot" extremely insulting, indeed - and I tend to think there's some truth to that.

Therefore, faggot is a word that I virtually never use. The exception is if I'm talking about the antigay mindset that continues to want to oppress us, because I know damned good-and-well that "faggot" is a word fairly commonly used in such [private] conversations that we're not privy to.

"Fag" (not addressed in this thread) is a rather different word, though it obviously has the same root. I heard it more often used as an endearing comment within the community, possibly because it just DOESN'T have the "awful" sound that faggot does. (Faggot, after all, rhymes with only one other common word...MAGGOT. That adds baggage to it as well. It ALMOST rhymes with baguette, which is a much friendlier and tastier word, LOL.) The phrase "fag hag" is almost never a disrespectful one. That term is now indelibly planted in my mind with Debbie from Queer As Folk (Michael's mother in the "American" version). I liked her character a lot.

YES, "AMERICAN" IN QUOTES - because, actually, the "American version" was the *CANADIAN* version. It was filmed in Toronto, though it was "set" in Pittsburgh.

In the UK it eans a meat ball. Nothing offensive there

You don't say??? That's a "new one" on me.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

internet 2 show why a centurys tak human apes centurys
_wot?_

mak soup?

anyway

thankyou

_mars rocket a lunch in 100000 billion secconds_
ooh no forgat mayo

 

[JohnnyAnger]

***However, I've seen some derivation, which I'm not sure is true, suggesting that "faggot" came from the term for the sticks/stakes which are placed under a person who is fastened or tied to something, then set ablaze and burned to death. I think it IS true that small sticks are "faggots" or MAYBE it's "fagots." If this is a true derivation, it makes the word "faggot" extremely insulting, indeed - and I tend to think there's some truth to that.

The first time I came across the word faggot was in the Lord of the Rings when the hobbits go out to collect some wood during their stay with Tom Bombadil. It just means bundle in English, and as it's a fairly old term it's spelt a whole heap of ways (faggat as well). I don't know about the burning element to that part though as it was just a unit of measurement - a faggot was 3 feet long, 2 feet in circumference. Of course these sticks were probably burnt, but the word itself does not suggest it to me.

You don't say??? That's a "new one" on me.

Here it is in all it's glories! The only reason to ever go up north!

 

[HoodedRat]

As has been pointed out above, in UK the primary meaning of 'faggot' is a type of mini-haggis-style meatball, and a fag is a cigarette. I don't particularly find the term any more or less offensive than words like poof, queer, nancy-boy, shirt-lifter , etc etc.

 

[gsdx]

As has been pointed out above, in UK the primary meaning of 'faggot' is a type of mini-haggis-style meatball, and a fag is a cigarette. I don't particularly find the term any more or less offensive than words like poof, queer, nancy-boy, shirt-lifter , etc etc.

There is a line in To Sir, With Love where the students are explaining Cockney slang to Mr. Thackery. One of the slang phrases is 'faggots and peas'. (I think 'peas' is correct.) And in Keeping Up Appearances, Onslow often mentions the word 'fag'.

Now, here is the interesting part. Here in Canada, many people that I know are repulsed by the words 'faggot' and 'fag'. When they hear the words in British programmes and movies, however, they think it's funny.

 

[JohnnyAnger]

As has been pointed out above, in UK the primary meaning of 'faggot' is a type of mini-haggis-style meatball, and a fag is a cigarette. I don't particularly find the term any more or less offensive than words like poof, queer, nancy-boy, shirt-lifter , etc etc.

Oh the confusion on the face's of Americans when I have asked to "bum a fag" or "can I goes twos on a fag with you" in the past.

 

[aaggii]

There is no such thing as "just a word", there's meaning behind it and that is why people choose to use it.

I meant that for me it´s just a word said at anger. Don´t take it out of the context.

 

[dereperez]

To me, it's just like the word "nigger". It carries a heavy connotation of prejudice from certain people who mean ill will but there are those that, perhaps unfortunately, just toss around the word without much thought. I'm not bothered by the word "faggot" when I know it just came from a slip of their tongue. Some people just use the word so much that it's embedded into their everyday speech.

I have an uncle who used to use the word all the time...but then stopped after I came out to him that I'm bi.

 

[xbuzzerx]

To me, it's just like the word "nigger". It carries a heavy connotation of prejudice from certain people who mean ill will but there are those that, perhaps unfortunately, just toss around the word without much thought. I'm not bothered by the word "faggot" when I know it just came from a slip of their tongue. Some people just use the word so much that it's embedded into their everyday speech.

I have an uncle who used to use the word all the time...but then stopped after I came out to him that I'm bi.

This reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend just yesterday. I'm kinda torn halfway in between just letting people who say it "casually" say it and saying anything about it, only because to me it's almost more uncomfortable when someone who otherwise drops the word casually all the time abruptly stops themselves, looks at you and says "oh no offense", or changes the word midstream because you are present.

 

[Orlandude]

Something that really annoys me is when I walk into a gay bar and hear gays calling each other "faggot" but those same ones are outraged when they hear it outside the bar.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

yogot no same a fagot but supa smart folk discova internet 2 a ton a stuff explain both

_Yogot da terror of planet_
at a flic movie thang
& screaaaaaaaaaam & < publiv volanteer

thankyou

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I meant that for me it´s just a word said at anger. Don´t take it out of the context.

I didn't take anything out of context but OK.

 

[GreyUnderscore]

I don't use it. Whenever I hear someone use the word the first thought that goes through my head is "what a fool". if the person means to use to describe something "dumb" or "stupid" why not use those words?

 

[nycguydowntown]

^^The "C" word is the most aggressive of them all.In England it sounds very aggressive when used In an argument even Big Brother won't allow their housemates to use it very often.

That's interesting--I thought it (cunt) was used so much in the UK casually that it had been neutralized.

 

[SLOPPYSECONDS]

wonda a folk ins a chamba a folkyees ofs governemt clubs go
_why millions a folkeees calls ya stooopid_

maybe not cause public go disucss it

anyway

thankyou

 

[Scealle]

A few of my straight friends likes to called me "That skating Fag" jokingly when I was still actively competing. I don't really took it as an offense or anything rather, I just think it's more of a straight guy/ douche bag thing.

 

[RaKroma]

I like to use fag around gay friends. I get really annoyed when other fags use "queen" instead.

 

[Devois]

I heard people using it as a pejorative in the UK. Granted, some of those people also adopted Jamaican and east London slang. I find it annoying, but I haven't heard it in almost a year (different company).

Here it is in all it's glories! The only reason to ever go up north!

Don't bother, we have them in Wales. Then again, one might visit the North on business. I've never had one garnished with a bay leaf though.

 

[LeicsDom]

And in Keeping Up Appearances, Onslow often mentions the word 'fag'.

It means a cigarette