Where are the athiests on this board?

[moorlock2003]

Doesn't anybody have a mind of his own? Religion is total bunk, a crutch for people to try to make themselves feel good. Well, I feel good, and I'm an athiest. Church Chat on Saturday Night Live is a great satire, because it skewers religion with laughter. Right on, Church Lady!

 

[star-warrior]

Good for you!

I don't have any strong, or relatively medium feelings for any religion. Even going through the motions seem somehow pointless. I've had a science background, and "religion", or rather religious dogma doesn't fill the void of the unknown in the real world.

After I die, I probably will just die and there won't be any conciousness left. For some, this is worrying, for me, I don't think I can worry about something which in itself is unknown. I live my life as good as I can, being as good as I can. If on the other side there really are deities, well, I will be surprised and probably look like I had egg on my face.

Anyhoooo, just don't believe too much in the dogma, it ain't good for ya.

 

[sparky95]

" There is no God, and Jesus is his only son" Roman Catholic atheist and surrealist Luis Bunel. I think that pretty much sums up my attitude. ' I have tried hard not to belive, and I cannot' " The Abbess Of Crewe" by Muriel Spark

 

[evilest]

I'm a very non-believer. But because of having to endure people fiorcing their own religions down my throat, I don't rant at religious people about why their religion is bullshit in 12 steps or less. It's just impolite.

 

[sparky95]

I'm a very non-believer. But because of having to endure people fiorcing their own religions down my throat, I don't rant at religious people about why their religion is bullshit in 12 steps or less. It's just impolite.

Nice attitude

 

[RenaissanceMan]

I'm a very non-believer. But because of having to endure people fiorcing their own religions down my throat, I don't rant at religious people about why their religion is bullshit in 12 steps or less. It's just impolite.

Yes...very nice attitude.

Some of the greatest minds in history have been believers of some sort...and they definitely had their own minds, thought for themselves.

If you don't believe, and it works for you..you're happy and a good person, then that's all you need.

I don't need to have a belief in God or in Jesus to feel better about myself or something like that...it's just in the way I think about things. I've made up my mind about some things, and definitely never have just swallowed whatever any church hands me (I don't buy into a lot of their teachings...but still believe in many essentials).

 

[Spensed]

People should have the right to believe what ever they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, the trouble with religious people though, is they HURT a lot of people. It's not the religion, it's the people. Just like LOVE, it's not bad, it's the people who ruin it and turn it into hate. Anyone can love religious or not. In turn anyone can hate. Churches are made up of people who do both. It's up to you to choose what you want to do and if you are a religious person, I hope you choose to do what is right and what god calls you to do, love.

I don't think that religion is necessarily complete bunk, but it is funny to me that many "people of faith" assume that their faith is the only legitmate one and that what they have faith in has to be true.

Like Catholics used to have to believe in Limbo and now they don't. Such hokum.

 

[frankfrank]

I consider myself a Christian, but I strongly believe in the dignity and humanity of people. I have never had an issue interacting with somebody whose beliefs didn't parallel mine; I can imagine myself falling head-over-heels for an athiest just as easily and logically as for a "believer." I almost feel ashamed to call myself Christian sometimes (even though it is UNDENIABLY true, and has been true with me for so long that at least half of JUB'ers weren't even born yet when I "converted"), as I have seen so many "Christians" giving that word a bad name. I think of people like Pat Robertson, Fred Phelps and Tom DeLay, who call themselves Christian, to be among the most UN-Christian people who have ever lived.
Some of these people disobey (or ENCOURAGE somebody else to disobey) ALL TEN of the Ten Commandments...

Moorlock2003, and everybody else posting in this thread, PLEASE don't let anybody ever convince you that your beliefs are wrong, inferior or deficient in any way. I guarantee that you will never hear anything of that sort from me. I have athiest friends who are VERY highly moral and VERY caring - certainly a hell of a lot more more so than those high-profile creeps who use belief systems to bilk "old ladies" out of their life savings, while spewing hatred and banging everybody they can (even if they're married). And as to the "purity" of Christians, don't even get me started on that really big Church that had an empire covering most of Europe in pre-medieval times. Didn't that same church also have heresy laws by which scientists, who dared to say anything that might contradict dogma, would be executed?

Athiests do NOT do this stuff!!!!!!

I will furthermore say that, if there was an Athiest candidate for President of the U.S. (yeah, right...surely won't happen in any of OUR lifetimes, unfortunately), my tendency would be to vote for that person. (Though, just as with anybody else, I'd have to find what all that person stood for as well.)

 

[levenshulme31]

Atheist Fundamentalist, the proud product of a (mainly) Catholic education.

I think it must have been the parallel teaching of religion and mathematics. Teaching me that that little wafer of bread you get on a Sunday is the actual flesh of JC, at the same time as teaching multiplication was a recipe for disbelief.
(1 little bit of bread x 1 billion Catholics x 2000 years = one enormous Jesus)

 

[moorlock2003]

Religion is for people who can't take responsibility for their own actions or lives, so they ask "God" or "Jesus" to supposedly help them out. Common sense should prevail, but religion is just a bunch of fairy tales. The best thing is to just try to be a better person than you were yesterday, and to treat people fairly. That's my religion.

 

[michsco]

Religion is total bunk, a crutch for people to try to make themselves feel good. Well, I feel good, and I'm an athiest.

Right there with ya buddy!

 

[inner_voice]

I am a Modern Satanist, the simplest way to explain it is Self-worshipping Atheism.

from a dictionary:

Atheism is the state either of being without theistic beliefs, or of actively disbelieving in the existence of deities

and more to explain:

A belief that there are no gods. Greek "a-theos": without-god

so i guess modern satanism does not promotes the idea of atheism
it's different choosing to have no religion, it's different to be an atheist and it's different to be a modern satanist
BUT i do believe that if a modern religion is very close to humanism, that MIGHT be modern satanism

but in any case we must seperate its' meanings

 

[SpankThePony]

Do you still get jehovah's witnesses calling round to your door?
They never come round here any more and they never answered my question on how to get goats blood out of the carpet.

I don't believe in any god godess or multiple forms of the former at all.

 

[surfdude]

i am an athiest, i believe science over religeon, because science has proof,in particular religeons you are just expected to beleive everything happened or u will go too hell,

 

[Rockercub]

I consider myself agnostic, but only because science cannot prove that a god does not exist. But I definitely lean toward atheism. By the way, science really doesn't offer proof per se, but at least it's based on observation, not speculation.

I do stay away from the religion forum for the most part. If you want to believe in a god and talk about it, I think there should be a place for it. However, if something pops up in the Hot Topics forum, I won't hold back, especially with regard to particular religions that are anti-gay.

 

[shinybright]

I was borderline athiest until someone close to me died and I could still feel them around me. I read "Life on the Other Side" by Sylvia Browne and she explains what happens to us when we die very logically. I now believe that when you die, your spirit lives on and when you are "dead", you are really your most alive. I highly reccomend the book.

 

[Kulindahr]

' I have tried hard not to belive, and I cannot' " The Abbess Of Crewe" by Muriel Spark

Do you realize that that statement is an affirmation of faith?
It is, BTW, why I believe -- no matter how much I'd rather not, the reality is too strong.

 

[inner_voice]

I just love it how people like to tell me what I believe.

"Satan is not a real, living entity, conscious or a physical thing that can be interacted with. It is a symbol, something ethereal, something that basically doesn't exist except as an emotional attachment and personal dream. Just like Buddhists do not worship Buddha, Satanists hold up Satan as an ultimate principal rather than an object of literal worship. Satan inspires and provokes people, like all (honest) religions the ultimate point is self-help. God believers have a different opinion on what Satan is, but their opinion is a result of their religion. Satanism's Satan is much more eclectic and multicultural than to be defined by Christianity or Islam."

Vexen Crabtree
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/

my intentions were NOt to tell you what you believe. You and only yourself knows for sure what your beliefs are
my statements and arguments were from a dictionary

peace

 

[Rockercub]

I was borderline athiest until someone close to me died and I could still feel them around me. I read "Life on the Other Side" by Sylvia Browne and she explains what happens to us when we die very logically. I now believe that when you die, your spirit lives on and when you are "dead", you are really your most alive. I highly reccomend the book.

You can believe in an afterlife and still be an atheist.

 

[kevin7620]

I'm a complete atheist - no supernatural mumbo jumbo bullshit for me, thank you very much. No god, no heaven, no hell, no afterlife, no angels, no saints, no ghosts, no witches, no tooth fairies, no psychics, no paranormal anything, etc.

I have a deep respect for science and its mechanism for seeking truth about the physical world. No dogma, do bullshit - just best evidence and common sense concepts, that when presented with new data, can be changed or discarded at will.

Big bang and expanding universe - yes! Our sun arose ~12 billion years ago - yes! Our planet arose ~6 billion years ago, in precisely the right orbit to allow life - yes! Life evolved in the oceans, starting with simple RNA molecules that had both hereditary and enzymatic properties, gradually became more complex, and eventually came out of the sea, etc - yes! Modern human beings arose somewhere in mid-Africa and spread geographically from there, thus creating the 3 major races - yes! Etc. etc. etc.

Unfortunately, besides a few outspoken celebrities, like Penn and Teller, these views - which I believe any rational person can arrive at independently, or at least agree to, if given enough information - are pretty out of the mainstream in America today.

My only consolation is that about 50% of scientists and 25% of physicians share my views to some extent (compared with something like <10% of the US population at large).