Where are the workers?

[ClubLevelVegan]

So, I have been noticing that there are more and more people trying to make a living streaming digital content. Some are streaming gaming, some are streaming life experiences like living in a van, etc.

Anyone know if this trend is at all at least partly responsible for the worker shortage?

I doubt it, I am sure some leaned into a bit more because of it but this has been a thing since Youtube got big years ago.

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In the mean time, 4th stimulus check petition surpasses 2.9 million signatures.

https://www.newsweek.com/fourth-sti...hly-2000-passes-29-million-signatures-1635025

Good, there needs to be.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Uh because they are shit jobs with shit pay. If min wage had kept pace with inflation since the beginning it would be over $25/hr. Maybe the owners of those businesses can sell their vacation homes and nice cars and downsize to a condo and Honda.

/endthread

 

[rareboy]

This may or may not be the case...but I have heard and read similar stories.

 

[rareboy]

While about 50% of them appear to be surplus to needs Boomers....there are apparently a lot of people who worked who are also dead.

 

[ClubLevelVegan]

More and more I am seeing worker strikes, it makes me happy the workers are fighting back and gathering in solidarity for better treatment and pay. Hopefully these strikes are successful.

 

[rareboy]

More and more I am seeing worker strikes, it makes me happy the workers are fighting back and gathering in solidarity for better treatment and pay. Hopefully these strikes are successful.

the very least.

 

[Rickrock]

Labor and labor unions have been beaten down for several decades now. It is good to see them gaining some ground now.

 

[peeonme]

Labor and labor unions have been beaten down for several decades now. It is good to see them gaining some ground now.

I totally agree.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

More and more I am seeing worker strikes, it makes me happy the workers are fighting back and gathering in solidarity for better treatment and pay. Hopefully these strikes are successful.

They are seeing modest success. Businesses that can afford to are relenting and bumping pay benefits et cetera, still the occasional display of "we just refuse to get it" hiring ads offering a free taco or measly referral bonus.

 

[CyborgDreamSt8]

I think I've only seen a single person mention that it's not just about the pay. It's also about treatment. If you refuse to treat employees like human beings, with real lives outside of your business, they won't want to work for you. If they constantly get shitty hours, you refuse their time off requests, you hound them to work when you fail to ensure good staffing on their days off, or they aren't getting off on time regularly, you call or text them when they aren't on the clock about things related to work, and you allow your clients/customers to run roughshod over them, people do not want to work for you. The entire labor system in this country needs a massive overhaul before you see a lot of people willingly return to work in places that do this. The pay is a part of it, and needs to be addressed badly, but it is far from the only part of it.

 

[peeonme]

I think I've only seen a single person mention that it's not just about the pay. It's also about treatment. If you refuse to treat employees like human beings, with real lives outside of your business, they won't want to work for you. If they constantly get shitty hours, you refuse their time off requests, you hound them to work when you fail to ensure good staffing on their days off, or they aren't getting off on time regularly, you call or text them when they aren't on the clock about things related to work, and you allow your clients/customers to run roughshod over them, people do not want to work for you. The entire labor system in this country needs a massive overhaul before you see a lot of people willingly return to work in places that do this. The pay is a part of it, and needs to be addressed badly, but it is far from the only part of it.

This so so true. I worked for small companies for the most part and most employers were total jerks. The bitching and threats toward all workers were non stop. Any raises were taken back by a raise in the workers payment toward health care premiums, coupled with higher co-pays and deductibles.

 

[rareboy]

 

[CyborgDreamSt8]

And that is exactly how that should have been handled! What an unbelievable prick that supervisor was! This sort of thing is getting a lot more common, with people standing up for themselves, and I am here for it!

 

[rareboy]

 

[unloadonme]

^ As a taxpayer, I'd rather an unemployed person took a job, even if it was not particularly well paid, rather than continue to claim state benefits which I'm paying for.

 

[ClubLevelVegan]

And people have done that for a very long time, but it is getting to a point where living expenses are getting higher and higher but the wages aren’t and people can’t get their basic living needs met. What is the point in having a job that is never going to pay you enough to afford to live? There is none. People are just wasting their time and being taken advantage of.

 

[unloadonme]

^ That's a consideration certainly. In the UK, we have a National Minimum Wage which is uprated each year and is designed to ensure that people do earn enough to be able to meet their basic living needs. I'm sure there are employers who try to get around the rules, but one of the roles of HM Revenue and Customs is to enforce them.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-national-minimum-wage-in-2021

https://www.gla.gov.uk/who-we-are/national-minimum-wage/

 

[rareboy]

^ As a taxpayer, I'd rather an unemployed person took a job, even if it was not particularly well paid, rather than continue to claim state benefits which I'm paying for.

As a taxpayer, I never understand why all the taxpayers aren't pushing hard all the time to make sure that basic wages aren't high enough to support a family, let alone a single person.

 

[peeonme]

As a taxpayer, I never understand why all the taxpayers aren't pushing hard all the time to make sure that basic wages aren't high enough to support a family, let alone a single person.

In the USA workers getting only the minimum wage also are eligible for government benefits such as medicaid, food stamps and some housing benefits.

 

[Dominus]

In the USA workers getting only the minimum wage also are eligible for government benefits such as medicaid, food stamps and some housing benefits.

As I understand it, benefits are running out. How is there still a worker shortage? I'm just wondering what people are doing to pay the bills?

To be clear, I am neutral on this topic. I don't care if people stay home or go to work. It has no bearing on me. I'm just curious how people are living without an income?