Which version do you prefer?

[belamyi]

Desktop - BELAMYI

Mobile - BELAMO

 

[Latimer]

I have no idea.

I do have a question, however: Do you ever visit Sagrada Familia or Parque Guell? Are they primarily tourist/selfie destinations these days and the locals (By the way, what do the citizens of Barcelona call themselves?) avoid them like the plague. Do they visit them once and figure that's it? Or do they not visit at all figuring they'll always be there so why rush?
What about the Picasso Museum. the Cathedral and the Gothic Quarter? The Barcelona Pavillion?

 

[Peloso]

Throw your mobile in the river. Problem solved.

 

[cityboy-stl]

Why does desktop need a different ID?

 

[belamyi]

I have no idea.

I do have a question, however: Do you ever visit Sagrada Familia or Parque Guell? Are they primarily tourist/selfie destinations these days and the locals (By the way, what do the citizens of Barcelona call themselves?) avoid them like the plague. Do they visit them once and figure that's it? Or do they not visit at all figuring they'll always be there so why rush?
What about the Picasso Museum. the Cathedral and the Gothic Quarter? The Barcelona Pavillion?

I was at the Park Güell the year I was in the catering service...
Who needs to go inside the SG when you have full 4k tours on YouTube.
These past few years the city hall has promoted more integration of barceloneses in the visiting of those places.
Spaniards in general are allergic to museums: they want to feel those places should alway be there for whenever it occurred to them to go visit.
I would enjoy the visit to the MNAC the days it was open for free: first time in February 2006 (coincidentally, the catering services mentioned above where preparing one of their "events" that same day), the next month I spent six full hours non-stop (10:00 to 16:00), stopping on every single work on display; you couldn't do that today... later on, during the crisis, they moved the free day to Sunday, and only in the morning, and I paid an entry on a couple of occasions.
I only visit exceptional exhibits: missed the Velázquez on the Picasso years ago, but somewhat enjoyed the Fragonard at the Caixa Forum (next to the Mies pavilion; same as for SG), because it included the original Ruysdael of which Frag had made a, literally, watered down version.
I walk around the Gothic Quarter quite often: it is as much Neogothic as Gothic, and my interest is not the Gothic... I was also inside the Generalitat Palace that catering year; same for the Casa Batlló. Never been to La Pedrera.
The Cathedral is more frequented by church-goers, particularly on the staple occasions, for example during the Cant de la Sibil·la ceremony in Christmas.

 

[belamyi]

Why does desktop need a different ID?

 

[belamyi]

Throw your mobile in the river. Problem solved.

I have two

 

[cityboy-stl]

Alright...I get it. Since you refuse to answer the question, it's just another attention getting device.

Hits the ignore button.

 

[belamyi]

Alright...I get it. Since you refuse to answer the question, it's just another attention getting device.

Hits the ignore button.

I'm not a tekkie, the mods themselves seemed dumbfounded, why the hell do you keep finding excuses to APPEAR pissed by my presence...

 

[Latimer]

Thank you for the interesting, detailed response.

I see the MNAC has a show on pregnancy as observed by female artists--which looks bad enough to be beyond satire-- but also a show on frescoes by Annibale Carracci for a chapel in San Giacomo degli Spagnoli in Rome which looks pretty interesting.

 

[Latimer]

^
Thanks also for the video. I take it the Cant de la Sibil celebrates the supposed prophecy by the Cumaen Sibyl in the Aeneid of the birth of Christ. Fascinating that this has inspired a Christmastime ceremony.

 

[belamyi]

Thank you for the interesting, detailed response.

I see the MNAC has a show on pregnancy as observed by female artists--which looks bad enough to be beyond satire-- but also a show on frescoes by Annibale Carracci for a chapel in San Giacomo degli Spagnoli in Rome which looks pretty interesting.

The interest of that Museum is the unique way to witness a very detailed evolution of the conception painting in Western art from Romanesque to Contemporary. Made me finally fully aware of HOW Medieval painting, like the rest of art and culture, ends, generally (the "progressive" Venetians and such aside) in the first quarter of the XVIIth century. So the collection is generally very mediocre, but it truly helps refining one's appreciation of art: after all, one needs the mediocre and the bad to define what one considers good, excelse, etc.

Oh, and curious the stench of bronze in the over-lifesize sculptures of Cleopatra and Lucretia

As if they were actually rotting there

 

[belamyi]

^
Thanks also for the video. I take it the Cant de la Sibil celebrates the supposed prophecy by the Cumaen Sibyl in the Aeneid of the birth of Christ. Fascinating that this has inspired a Christmastime ceremony.

Fascinating as the fact that it was recovered after many centuries, and that the score was 'supplemented' or "reshaped" by a contemporary, living composer.

Cant de la Sibil·la

Encuentra aquí todos los Cantos de la Sibil·la que se hacen en Barcelona esta Nochebuena 2020.Hasta que en el siglo XVI el Concilio de Trento lo hizo desaparecer, El cant de la sibil·la estaba bastante extendido por toda Europa. Considerada un rito pagano, esta pieza de teatro religioso que...

www.barcelona.cat

 

[Latimer]

^
Hard to believe I've never visited nor been inspired to visit San Giacomo degli Spagnoli, the Spanish national church in Rome. It (now) fronts on Piazza Navona and I must have walked by it a thousand times.

Nostra Signora del Sacro Cuore Church Rome, facts and hours.

Nostra Signora del Sacro Cuore Church Rome (or San Giacomo degli Spagnoli) | Address, opening hours and admission, history and highlights.

renatoprosciutto.com

 

[Latimer]

Thanks also for the Lucretia and Cleopatra bronzes. You're right about needing the mediocre and the bad to help define what is truly good. The Getty here in LA currently has a show of works by the execrably bad Cy Twombley along with Greek and Roman art that inspired him.

Cy Twombly: Making Past Present

American artist Cy Twombly’s engagement with the art and poetry of ancient Greece and Rome played a central role in his creative process.

www.getty.edu

 

[belamyi]

Thanks also for the Lucretia and Cleopatra bronzes. You're right about needing the mediocre and the bad to help define what is truly good. The Getty here in LA currently has a show of works by the execrably bad Cy Twombley along with Greek and Roman art that inspired him.

Cy Twombly: Making Past Present

American artist Cy Twombly’s engagement with the art and poetry of ancient Greece and Rome played a central role in his creative process.

www.getty.edu

Oh, I thought you were going to say The Getty's collection is the American equivalent of the MNAC

 

[belamyi]

 

[Latimer]

I see now I was wrong about the origins of the Cant de la Sibil-la:

The Song of the Sibyl - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(It is a telling commentary on the decadence of modern culture that Twombley's estate is valued in the billions and that he was commissioned to paint a ceiling in the Paris Opera House (the Garnier one, not the Ott one) which is worse than the painting you posted.)

 

[belamyi]

Well, well, someone tell me how I managed to do that without using my cell at the same time

 

[Vannie]

Pick one and cut it out.