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Who controls America?

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An interesting article on who controls the good old U.S. of A.
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The oil cartel, the military-industrial complex

and the Israel lobby are the three

most powerful lobbies in America

They are the beneficiaries of the devastation of Iraq

The combined power of these lobbies

makes it impossible for Congress to respond

to the American people and end the war
US casualties (dead and wounded) have now reached 27,000 in a war that was supposed to be a “cakewalk” over in a few weeks.

If what four-star general Wesley Clark, former supreme commander of NATO, told Amy Goodman in a March 2 interview is correct, US casualties are yet in their early days.

Gen. Clark told Amy Goodman that shortly after 9/11 he was shown a Pentagon

That sounds exactly like the plan that neoconservative Norman Podhoretz set out in Commentary magazine.

The media have done a good job for the government of keeping the blood and gore out of the living room.

Except for close friends or relatives of one of the 27,000, Americans have not been impacted by the war. They are even less aware of the consequences for Iraqis.

Every day 100 or more Iraqi civilians are killed and 100 or more are maimed and injured. For example on Tuesday, March 6, the US lost 10 GIs killed. Iraqi casualties totaled 535, 152 killed and 383 wounded.

US troops routinely kill Iraqi civilians mistakenly or from frustration, but the heavy daily casualties are the result of the civil war made possible by the US overthrow of the Iraqi government.

US troops per se are not responsible for much of the daily toll, but the Bush administration, Congress, and the American people are.

The March 6 toll of 535 casualties is high even for Iraq. Assume 200 casualties each day and the result is 73,000 Iraqi casualties per year.

Why does anyone in the Bush administration, Congress, or among the public believe that the US has the right to wreck a country and be responsible for such extraordinary harm inflicted on a civilian population?

How did the “war on terror” become a war on the Iraqi people?

We have heard every answer: intelligence mistakes, incompetence, and evil machination. Whichever answer we take, the killing and destruction continue.

Why?

It has recently come to light that the US government has imposed an oil deal on the puppet Iraqi government that turns Iraqi oil over to US and British firms for exploitation.

Bush-Cheney have not brought Iraqis democracy, but they have stolen their oil revenues.

The profits of the military-industrial complex are soaring, and higher military budgets are being appropriated. The value of Cheney’s Haliburton stock options has not merely doubled or tripled but multiplied by a factor of 32.

The Israel Lobby sees the war as enhancing Israeli hegemony in the Middle East and making possible the completion of Israel’s theft of Palestine from Palestinians.

Thus, the three most powerful lobbies in America are the beneficiaries of the devastation of Iraq. The combined power of these lobbies makes it impossible for Congress to respond to the American people and end the war.

American politicians and administrations still cloak their motives in idealistic principles, but it has been a long time since anyone has seen any principled behavior in Washington.

Despite the unrelenting US propaganda against Iran and North Korea, a poll of 28,000 people in 27 countries for the BBC World Service (March 6) found that Israel, Iran, and the US in that order are regarded as the most negative influences on the world. Even North Korea is regarded as a less negative influence than America.

Japan, Canada, the EU, France, China, and India are all regarded as more positive influences on the world than the United States.

The Bush Cheney-Regime has achieved this deplorable result in a mere 6 years.

Yet the Democrats cannot even pass a toothless resolution against committing more US troops in Iraq.

Far from making Americans safe by attacking a country that posed no threat to the US, Bush-Cheney have alarmed the Russians and the Chinese.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and General Yury Baluyevsky, Chief of the Russian General Staff, have both warned that the Bush regime’s military aggression and drive for hegemony are setting off another arms race.

General Baluyevsky says that Russia might pull out of the 20-year-old Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty.

China has announced a 17.8 percent increase in its military budget for 2007.

China is America’s most important banker. How long will China fund America’s wars and trade deficit when it finds itself so threatened by America’s “leaders” that it has to accelerate its military spending?

Americans still regard themselves as the salt of the earth. But the rest of the world no longer sees Americans that way.

When citizens of other countries turn their eyes toward America, they see evil.
 
You lost me at "Israel"

And you need to have a citation and a source! Don't just post the text. Come on people! Show some standards if you're going to clog up the front page with this crap.
 
I am curious about the "source"...

Having said that...

Give the guy a break -- he's only posted 90 times...

Maybe he works on a laptop in living quarters of a truck (like I do) and can't do all that fancy stuff...

GOOD ARTICLE Retread...

I would question the legitamacy of the "3 most powerful lobbies"...

But,

I'll wait for the source...
 
gotta have a source or i wont read it

but welcome to the forum, budd

always good to have someone new post in here
 
Thanks for the welcome Andreus.
I'm learning--thanks for the reminder about the source.

Paul Craig Roberts Archive
Paul Craig Robert's appeal on behalf of VDARE.COM


March 06, 2007

In the World’s Eyes the US has become Amerika
By Paul Craig Roberts

US casualties (dead and wounded) have now reached 27,000 in a war that was supposed to be a "cakewalk" over in a few weeks. If what four-star general Wesley Clark, former supreme commander of NATO, told Amy Goodman in a March 2 interview is correct, US casualties are yet in their early days------------------------
 
Op ed. And a bad one at that. I would agree the opinion of America is diminished across the globe but I would rather they hate us for action rather than inaction. The Cabal of Three sounds like a mix between the black helicopter theories and the masonic behind the scenes domination of America.
 
I really don't understand why someone needs a source. You either agree or disagree with the ideas, it doesnt much matter where they come from except for the statistics.

Anyone that does not believe that the Oil interests, Military/industrial interests and the Israeli lobby are not the most influential lobbies in the US simply has not been paying attention.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020610/massing
 
who controls america?

simple really

Fox News

LOL
 
FNC ....lol

don't forget Karl [STRIKE]"MARX"[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]Musillini[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]Ghengis[/STRIKE] Rove
 
First of all; Lugus, you SHOULD care who's controlling America. Apathy is a major problem in our country. Do you vote at election time?
My take on who's controlling America? The oil companies. Do some research beyond the news. You won't like it. The AMA, the NRA, insurance companies, foreign lobbyists, not just Israel by the way.
 
Source? How about the Walt Mearshimer study of the influence of AIPAC, the American Israel Public affairs Committee? How about the report in the current Economist magazine (it's British I know but some Americans can read) on the awesome power of the Israel lobby? Or check out today's New York Times editorial, suggesting it's time Americans started debating this influence, even if they run the risk of being vilified and branded anti-semitic, as, inter alia, the great historian Tony Judt of ex President Carter were when they dared criticise Israel's very own home-grown Holocaust, the campaign to eliminate the Palestinians. In Israel there is open debate on the policies of the right wing government of killers. Not in the good old USA. AIPAC boast of having thirty Jeiwsh house members and a record thirteen in the Senate. There are now more Jews in Congress than Episcopalians. And if you don't think they influence policy, why do they they pony up $56.8 million for candidates of their choice. The fact is that American foreign policy is run by pro-Zionists. And for Olmert to assert we won't bow to terrorism, has he forgotten that Israel was founded on terrorism.

Get a grip and look beyond Fox News for your information. And read a little more widely for four sources.
 
Money currently runs this government. That has been discussed ad nauseum in many threads.
 
Well...

Although I believe those 3 groups ARE powerful...

I don't think that they are the MOST powerful...

We still have...

THE POWER OF THE VOTE...

(Education lobby is most powerful in my opinion... and they're not fighting for the benefit of the kids in school -- sadly)...
 
I take exception to this assertion:

"The combined power of these lobbies

makes it impossible for Congress to respond "


The only thing that makes it "impossible for Congress to respond" is Congress. The Framers of the Constitution trusted that we'd elect statesmen, not cowards dashing to read polls before every vote, people of principles, not panderers to their pet interests.

If we lack statesmen with principles, there are ways to do something about it. We're supposed to use our ballots, so it doesn't have to come down to bullets, as it has twice in U.S. history.
 
Well...

Although I believe those 3 groups ARE powerful...

I don't think that they are the MOST powerful...

We still have...

THE POWER OF THE VOTE...

And what Kulindahr said...

ISN'T THIS THE SAME THING???

Thats why I don't intentionally post on CEP...

Everyone takes my post of a few words...

ADDS A BUNCH OF BIG WORDS too make themselves look smart...

and...

What the hell..

There was another thread that I answered the original question in 5 words...

It went on for 30 some posts basically stating the SAME 5 words I used (America has the biggest... Dick...) ...

I guess...

Whatever...

I only post here when "tricked" into thinking it is not CEP...

And on Kulindahrs behalf...

he may have been typing that while I was posting (my BF does that all the time)...
 
Well...

Although I believe those 3 groups ARE powerful...

I don't think that they are the MOST powerful...

We still have...

THE POWER OF THE VOTE...

(Education lobby is most powerful in my opinion... and they're not fighting for the benefit of the kids in school -- sadly)...

Gentry once again brings the voice of reason to this forum.....
The voters of the United States control this country.
Often it takes them a good deal of time to get off their asses and make their voice known. But it does happen.
Israel? A small country in the Middle East does have a lobby in the halls of the US Congress, as does the cement industry, the film industry and many others.
The small country of Israel deserves the support of our country, as does any small country that has a democratic government.
I've studied history most of my life. I shudder for my country when I read the sort of stuff that has been written in this thread. Is there no one with common sense left in the gay world.... or the rest of the world?
 
And what Kulindahr said...

ISN'T THIS THE SAME THING???

Thats why I don't intentionally post on CEP...

Everyone takes my post of a few words...

ADDS A BUNCH OF BIG WORDS too make themselves look smart...

and...

What the hell..

There was another thread that I answered the original question in 5 words...

It went on for 30 some posts basically stating the SAME 5 words I used (America has the biggest... Dick...) ...

I guess...

Whatever...

I only post here when "tricked" into thinking it is not CEP...

And on Kulindahrs behalf...

he may have been typing that while I was posting (my BF does that all the time)...

I almost went back and edited....

but hey! -- I said it differently! :lol:
 
I almost went back and edited....

but hey! -- I said it differently! :lol:

Kulindahr...

My BF (Opinterph) thinks you're one of the coolest jubbers out there...

I didn't mean it personally...

Its just happened A LOT lately...

And you didn't just say it differently...

You said it better...
 
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