whoa, this place still looks and sounds the same...

[star-warrior]

Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer

 

[ElmosToe]

Oh, good. I was thinking I might have typed it wrong.

From the day I joined JUB, I saw threads bemoaning that the place just wasn't what it used to be. That it used to be cool and interesting and fascinating and sexy...but now it was boring and bitchy and unwelcoming. JUB wasn't really JUB without the reminder that it was so much better BEFORE. (Before what? Before now, I guess.) The past keeps getting rosier, and the present darker. The implication always seems to be that the past was all brilliant hot fun, and everything negative sprouted up around two months to two years ago. The "I miss so-and-so" thread never is off the front page for more than a day or two, because who gives a rat's ass about those who remain - it's those that left that really matter. (No wonder people keep deleting their accounts - it's the only time people seem to have anything really positive to say about them.) It makes me smile, knowing that current-incarnation JUB will have joined the good-old-days by 2016, and someone will be upset that "JUB isn't like it used to be a couple years ago".

Lex

^nailed it.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

But does it taste the same....

 

[G-Lexington]

So sarcasm rather than actually insulting all the long term members who have stayed around an still appreciate the forum.

The joke contained within, of course, is that anybody who still says such a thing is also still here, and therefore presumably belongs to the dregs group. I guess the people who post such things assume that they're the only "participant" and everybody else is just an actor dropped in to entertain them.

I'm a bit surprised that you would be insulted by my comment. My post count is apparently large enough for those to understand my mindset without a phalanx of dancing smilies, or a [/irony] tag. But I do sympathize and apologize if my comments seem to to treat the topic too lightly.

^You seem different.

One adapts to fit the current audience. I can take my loincloth off if you think it'll help.

Lex

 

[rareboy]

The joke contained within, of course, is that anybody who still says such a thing is also still here, and therefore presumably belongs to the dregs group. I guess the people who post such things assume that they're the only "participant" and everybody else is just an actor dropped in to entertain them.

I'm a bit surprised that you would be insulted by my comment. My post count is apparently large enough for those to understand my mindset without a phalanx of dancing smilies, or a [/irony] tag. But I do sympathize and apologize if my comments seem to to treat the topic too lightly.



One adapts to fit the current audience. I can take my loincloth off if you think it'll help.

Lex

meh.

I'm happy to be here with the dregs like Lex....and not gone with the flotsam and jetsam who have been washed away from the surface of this turbulent keg. It is the lightweights who have blown away....while those with substance just settled to the bottom....imparting that dark and mysterious undercurrent to the JUB vintage.

I can't believe that anyone who knows our gargoyle was offended....

 

[dpnice]

...............................
I'm a bit surprised that you would be insulted by my comment. My post count is apparently large enough for those to understand my mindset ....................................
Lex

So you are assuming that I analyse your posts in order to understand your approach to JUB, rather than just reading them with little to no reflection.

Over 44 000 posts doesn't mean I understand who you are, your humour, etc. it just means that you have posted a lot. This is the Internet so I trust nothing I read.

Yes I found your remarks slightly insulting; wondered whether you were serious or not (thus the question), but wasn't that worried about it that I felt like crying all evening.

 

[Essex Boy]

^You seem different.

He dozed off . . .

 

[Kahaih]

So you are assuming that I analyse your posts in order to understand your approach to JUB, rather than just reading them with little to no reflection.

Over 44 000 posts doesn't mean I understand who you are, your humour, etc. it just means that you have posted a lot. This is the Internet so I trust nothing I read.

Yes I found your remarks slightly insulting; wondered whether you were serious or not (thus the question), but wasn't that worried about it that I felt like crying all evening.

I don't suppose you've taken time, then, to think about the possibility that your 'I don’t really pay that much attention/who cares/it's just the Internet' attitude in that post seriously undermines every compliment, every bit of praise, you've ever posted on this site as well, have you?

It's your character flaw to deal with however you see fit, but be warned, flaunting it in public cuts both ways.

 

[dpnice]

I don't suppose you've taken time, then, to think about the possibility that your 'I don’t really pay that much attention/who cares/it's just the Internet' attitude in that post seriously undermines every compliment, every bit of praise, you've ever posted on this site as well, have you?

It's your character flaw to deal with however you see fit, but be warned, flaunting it in public cuts both ways.

Having re-read my post I don't see how you interpret my comments to be the phrases you have written in bold. In no way did I say in my comments anything like your interpretation/accusation.

Which is exactly why I am wary of any interaction on the web as often people read what they wish to read rather than what the person wished to say.

 

[frankfrank]

Am I the only one who thinks that JUB hit a nadir about two years ago, and has come back - therefore not just continued to "get worse"??

Yeah, grammar nazis, I know the ?? is supposed to go inside the quotes, but I don't usually observe that rule. EXAMPLE...Somebody could ask the question

Was it George W. Bush who once said "I'm the decider?"

Grammar says that you have to put the question mark inside the quote. When George W. Bush said that "I'm the decider" he was NOT asking a question!!! How can it be justified to put a question mark inside the quotes, making it look as though he was asking a question, then? YOU'RE "questioning the quote" and the question mark is external to the quote, because it is YOU who are adding the question mark, it wasn't Bush's question mark.

Anyway, I'll still agree with most who think that "JUB was better in the early days" - which ALMOST ALWAYS means the days back around the time that one joined. Indeed those of us who joined JUB had, by and large, NEVER seen anything like it before. A large interactive gay community with lots and lots of topics STILL doesn't exist anywhere else, I don't think? (OK, Open Closets, but that generally includes people who are emerging and haven't reached adulthood, and it's under the umbrella of JUB so it still can't be consider an entirely "elsewhere" place.) Something that's really cool AND NEW is almost always best when you first experience it.

On JUB, eventually one sees all of the most important topics covered in one way or another, when involving personal fulfillment, relationships, etiquette, etc. All aspects of "being gay" have been covered many times over, so there is no longer a novelty there. One of the few things that keeps changing are the laws and politics about being gay, such as same-gendered marriages, discrimination, and such. These are issues which are covered in discussions more in depth than probably anywhere else.

Yes, gay POLICIES are certainly dynamic nowadays in the United States (which still contains the largest share of JUB interaction), as well as elsewhere in the world. A lot of other things are dynamic: The ACA/"Obamacare," voting rights, economic policies, international events, celebrity successes and pitfalls, music, climate change, medical advances, etc. However, unlike the gay topics, one doesn't need JUB to follow much of this other stuff, and often each topic will have some other website that covers it better than we do here. Of course all these other websites will have their own versions of people and "street characters" JUST AS we do here.

So, after years here, JUB indeed becomes more "predictable" - and that can be both a good thing and a bad thing.

 

[G-Lexington]

Rife with snarkasam.

Can't even be bothered to find the gif, ctisaaft.

Lex

 

[Thad1527]

Where else would I go? I won't use Facebook. Yahoo and Google groups seem to have died.

I'm happy to see old posters return when they want to. And I realize that life takes us away sometimes.

 

[Vitamin]

Oh, good. I was thinking I might have typed it wrong.

From the day I joined JUB, I saw threads bemoaning that the place just wasn't what it used to be. That it used to be cool and interesting and fascinating and sexy...but now it was boring and bitchy and unwelcoming. JUB wasn't really JUB without the reminder that it was so much better BEFORE. (Before what? Before now, I guess.) The past keeps getting rosier, and the present darker. The implication always seems to be that the past was all brilliant hot fun, and everything negative sprouted up around two months to two years ago. The "I miss so-and-so" thread never is off the front page for more than a day or two, because who gives a rat's ass about those who remain - it's those that left that really matter. (No wonder people keep deleting their accounts - it's the only time people seem to have anything really positive to say about them.) It makes me smile, knowing that current-incarnation JUB will have joined the good-old-days by 2016, and someone will be upset that "JUB isn't like it used to be a couple years ago".

Lex

See, I disagree. JUB was better before the TCP/IP upgrade. These days just anyone with a fucking computer can sign up and communicate with JUB servers. It's fucking unbearable.

 

[JPGhost]

Oh, good. I was thinking I might have typed it wrong.

From the day I joined JUB, I saw threads bemoaning that the place just wasn't what it used to be. That it used to be cool and interesting and fascinating and sexy...but now it was boring and bitchy and unwelcoming. JUB wasn't really JUB without the reminder that it was so much better BEFORE. (Before what? Before now, I guess.) The past keeps getting rosier, and the present darker. The implication always seems to be that the past was all brilliant hot fun, and everything negative sprouted up around two months to two years ago. The "I miss so-and-so" thread never is off the front page for more than a day or two, because who gives a rat's ass about those who remain - it's those that left that really matter. (No wonder people keep deleting their accounts - it's the only time people seem to have anything really positive to say about them.) It makes me smile, knowing that current-incarnation JUB will have joined the good-old-days by 2016, and someone will be upset that "JUB isn't like it used to be a couple years ago".

Lex

Yep. These are very present people who refuse to accepting fact of the present-tense which include "themselves"
It reminds me of that crowd who used to be-moaning of how shitty music these days?!! Yet, if today's music really that shitty, why some music still manage to make "hits?"

 

[snapcat]

not sure if that's a good (or bad) thing.

i look back at 2004 when i used to regularly log on here and use the camchat, everybody knew me and i knew pretty much everyone, too... from all the people who i traveled to and met and the experiences i've had due to this website, both bad & good experiences, i don't really take much back.

it's weird to know that it's been 10 years.

<snip>

so, what did i miss?

Well, seems PalePhoenix got banned.

 

[mikemizanin729]

The important and interesting people are gone.
Only the dregs remain.
Such is life, yes no?

Lex

Is that why you're still here then...??? You must feel right at home.

 

[dpnice]

Obviously the place has changed.

I am just glad that JUB is still around; different and naturally a little repetitive seeing that I have seen most subjects come up numerous times.

I still find it stimulating; I still find the members interesting and those that have gone have been replaced by characters just as worthwhile.

My only complaint would be that as there are fewer members posting regularly often I log on to find that there has been little to no movement.

I hope all of you hang around a long time.

 

[cgymike]

dynk had 12000 posts when I joined and everyone was still congratulating him on "10K".....first to get to 10K on here.


Andreus was later


Wants me to edit.

 

[G-Lexington]

Is that why you're still here then...??? You must feel right at home.

Here.

Lemme know if I'm going too fast for you.

Lex

 

[frankfrank]

Obviously the place has changed.

I am just glad that JUB is still around; different and naturally a little repetitive seeing that I have seen most subjects come up numerous times.

I still find it stimulating; I still find the members interesting and those that have gone have been replaced by characters just as worthwhile.

My only complaint would be that as there are fewer members posting regularly often I log on to find that there has been little to no movement.

I hope all of you hang around a long time.

Agreed 100% with all of this.

One way to see how active this group is, is looking at the activity in one of the Forums. I choose Current Events & politics. I display fifty threads on each summary page.

The FIFTIETH thread on the summary page had its most recent post 34 days ago. I have slowly watched that time frame grow longer and longer, and it "broke" one month for the first time I noticed, back in June. This is the first time I've ever seen it at 34 days. I remember that when I first started going to C E & P, the "OLDEST last post" on the summary page was about a week earlier.

Fun & Games would be a terrible place to use that criterion to judge JUB activity, because a few dozen threads are perennially very active, and that's all. Hot Topics also has more "perennial" threads than C E & P as well; C E & P is a good indicator of how often NEW threads are started.

There was a thread here which was last posted about two years ago, showing the rank of JUB among the most active communities on the Internet, and I believe that JUB had crept up into the low or mid-300's, but I don't know where it stands currently, nor do I remember how to find the thread. Too bad I don't think there's a way to search SUBSCRIBED threads only (is there?).