Whoopi Goldberg on Bieber's racism. She doesn't know ANYthing about Canada.

[gsdx]

I don't know if she's just trying to stir up controversy or to up the ratings, but Whoopi needs to take a few lessons in Canadian history. She obviously doesn't know anything about us:

Talk show co-host Whoopi Goldberg offered an odd summary of Canada in recent days when she suggested it was defensible that Justin Bieber used a racist word because he's Canadian, and therefore somehow unaware of the plight of black people.

The View co-host suggested, much to the bemusement of her colleagues, that the n-word does not hold the same context in Canada as it does in America.

"Canadians words - I'm going to say the word so get ready to bleep me. N--- doesn't mean anything in Canada," she said during a recent episode. "Black Canadians and black Americans are two separate groups of people."

Goldberg says she knows this because she filmed a movie in Canada last year.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dai...ys-bieber-n-word-because-doesn-194513331.html

 

[Vitamin]

Wow, just wow. Does Whoopi not know anything about the Underground Railroad?

 

[CupidBoy]

I used to like her, but after watching her on The View I think she's a bit of a tool.

 

[rareboy]

I think that perhaps when she was filming...her head must have been up her ass.

Frankly.

Nigger is just as offensive, if not more so, to Canadians than in the US. Because most of the Canadian colonies and then provinces never knew slavery like the southern states...it is almost utterly foreign in our lexicon...never used casually or indifferently.

 

[gsdx]

Because most of the Canadian colonies and then provinces never knew slavery like the southern states

Actually, we did. Great Britain and the colonies (including Canada) had slavery just like in the US. Remember, we were both born from the same country. Slavery had been prevalent in both Upper and Lower Canada (Ontario and Quebec) for almost 200 years before Ontario abolished it in the early 1790s. Quebec quickly followed suit. Britain abolished slavery throughout the Commonwealth in the early 1830s.

Racism is still alive and kicking on this side of the border, but nothing to the extent that it is in the US. Up here, we don't tolerate it and any racism is dealt with swiftly, as is any discrimination.

I was born in 1951 and grew up in a small town of about 1,200. As a kid, I knew the 'N' word. I also knew that it was a bad word and I would end up with a mouthful of soap bubbles if I ever said it. We had a few black children in our school and there was an interracial couple living in town. Hal, in fact, owned a gas station and used car dealership. That's where I got my first car.

 

[MisterB]

Sounds like she's been smokin' too much weed--affected her ability to think coherently. Sometimes it's better to say nothing than to say anything, especially when you don't know the history. As we say in my house, "bless her heart".

 

[eastofeden]

Whoopi is a huge apologist for just about everybody...I think it is in her blood. I think she needs to find an excuse for everyone...I do this a lot myself but not to the extent she does. If I see everyone moving one way I will often go out of my way to go the other way ...even if I am not fully onboard. It is a tricky position to take ...sometimes you are right to go against the grain but sometimes you are very wrong. This is one of those times. I think she defended Paula Dean too....and Mel Gibson...and Tracy Morgan....and Alec Baldwin. She has it a lot worse than I do...but I think I understand why she does it.

I still like her.

 

[CupidBoy]

^ she is indeed an apologist for everyone. Can you explain why you think she does it?

 

[eastofeden]

^ she is indeed an apologist for everyone. Can you explain why you think she does it?

Mob mentality and the court of public opinion are usually scarier and a lot more dangerous than anything an individual says....

She "gets it"....

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

This isn't racism though, it's a different brand of douchery.

Unless I'm missing something, isn't she kinda right? If this word isn't the huge shitstorm up norf that it is in the states wouldn't the history behind it sort of fly over a Canadian youth's head, especially one who doesn't seem to have paid much if any attention in school?

 

[ElmosToe]

Poor, sad Whoopi. She used to be cool.

 

[eastofeden]

This isn't racism though, it's a different brand of douchery.

Like I said...sometimes when you play devil's advocate or apologize for someone else you are wrong...and I think she fucked up on this one. Not gonna grab a torch though and go after her.....I still like her

 

[gsdx]

If this word isn't the huge shitstorm up norf that it is in the states wouldn't the history behind it sort of fly over a Canadian youth's head, especially one who doesn't seem to have paid much if any attention in school?

Oh, but it IS. It always has been and it always will be. Even at 14, Justin knew damned well what he was saying and what it meant.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Like I said...sometimes when you play devil's advocate or apologize for someone else you are wrong...and I think she fucked up on this one. Not gonna grab a torch though and go after her.....I still like her

I didn't see this episode as I have a genetic predisposition to not watching the view, did she actually take an apologist stance? Seems like she's simply writing his behavior off as sincere ignorance more than anything.

 

[ElmosToe]

I didn't see this episode as I have a genetic predisposition to not watching the view, .

^this, ha ha!


Whoopi & the Biebs...has a nice ring to it, they should have their own talk show.
they discuss the topics of the day over coffee and display their full ignorance.

May get high ratings as a comedy hour.

 

[eastofeden]

I didn't see this episode as I have a genetic predisposition to not watching the view, did she actually take an apologist stance? Seems like she's simply writing his behavior off as sincere ignorance more than anything.

I think she was apologist in the sense that she took a stance that sought to explain his behavior or understand it which is something she does...and something I like about her. She is a brilliant woman but sometimes it is better to let the chips fall where they may. I think speaking on behalf of Canada was a bad decision but hey....gotta make some mistakes.

As for whatshisname's behavior....I have no idea why he says or does any of the things he says and does because he isn't at all interesting to me. I would rather hear about George Benson's favorite recipe for potato salad but that wouldn't sell many magazine or get many views...so whatever the little twit says I suppose will always be in the news.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

I think she was apologist in the sense that she took a stance that sought to explain his behavior or understand it.

Isn't that how we learn and progress as a species, how do we educate people if we don't even understand where they're coming from?

As for whatshisname's behavior....I have no idea why he says or does any of the things he says and does because he isn't at all interesting to me. I would rather hear about George Benson's favorite recipe for potato salad but that wouldn't sell many magazine or get many views...so whatever the little twit says I suppose will always be in the news.

If you mean jazz God George Benson then please marry me. And we will have LOTS of potato salad at the wedding cuz I looooves me some 'tata salad.

 

[LeicsDom]

Britain abolished slavery throughout the Commonwealth in the early 1830s.

That is sorta right but technically slavery was not LEGALLY abolished in the UK until 2010

http://www.forteantimes.com/strangedays/mythbusters/3985/slavery.html

Holding a person in slavery became illegal in the UK on 6 April 2010. Nineteenth-century legislation made slavery illegal, in stages, throughout the British Empire, but the status of slave had never existed under English common law. Therefore, since slaves did not legally exist in this country, holding a slave was never made specifically illegal – until now. Section 71 of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 makes it an offence in the UK to hold a person in slavery or servitude, or require a person to perform forced or compulsory labour. The maximum penalties are seven and 14 years imprisonment respectively. Modern anti-slavery campaigners say that there are currently 27 million slaves worldwide, in various categories, and that the use of undocumented migrants as forced labour is common in Britain. They argue that it’s only in countries where slavery has been criminalised, as opposed to merely “abolished”, that the prosecution of slaveholders becomes practical.

 

[rareboy]

Actually, we did. Great Britain and the colonies (including Canada) had slavery just like in the US. Remember, we were both born from the same country. Slavery had been prevalent in both Upper and Lower Canada (Ontario and Quebec) for almost 200 years before Ontario abolished it in the early 1790s. Quebec quickly followed suit. Britain abolished slavery throughout the Commonwealth in the early 1830s.

Racism is still alive and kicking on this side of the border, but nothing to the extent that it is in the US. Up here, we don't tolerate it and any racism is dealt with swiftly, as is any discrimination.

I was born in 1951 and grew up in a small town of about 1,200. As a kid, I knew the 'N' word. I also knew that it was a bad word and I would end up with a mouthful of soap bubbles if I ever said it. We had a few black children in our school and there was an interracial couple living in town. Hal, in fact, owned a gas station and used car dealership. That's where I got my first car.

What I meant was that Canadians never exploited slavery on a mass scale to work farms or build infrastructure....it was more a case of some colonial households...usually where the family was involved in trade with interests in the southern US states or Caribbean who had some household slaves or a limited number of farm workers.

What is fascinating is that slavery was actually more of a long held aboriginal practice.....interesting that Chief Brant had black slaves when he moved to Upper Canada and built Chiefswood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Canada

 

[gsdx]

What I meant was that Canadians never exploited slavery on a mass scale to work farms or build infrastructure....it was more a case of some colonial households

Ah, gotcha. That's probably why there was no 'fuss' when it was abolished. Or, perhaps, it was just Canada's laid-back attitude.