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Why are 'thaw' and 'unthaw' synonymous?

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I know it works for 'flammable' and 'inflammable', but 'thaw' and 'unthaw' are completely opposite actions. 'Unthaw' does not mean 'defreeze', and television voice-over announcers should know better.
 
unthaw

Verb

1. dissolve, thaw, unfreeze, dethaw, melt — become or cause to become soft or liquid; "The sun melted the ice"; "the ice thawed"; "the ice cream melted"; "The heat melted the wax"; "The giant iceberg dissolved over the years during the global warming phase"; "dethaw the meat"
 
hmm I can only describe how it works in German.

We have have "tauen" (thaw) which means frozen stuff becoming melted/liquid/soft. And then we have "das Auftauen" as a Noun which is the process of thawing.
And if you use "auftauen" as a verb that usually means that you somehow initiated or influenced the process. So if something thaws - it's naturally thawing, because of the sun for example. But if I put something in the microwave, I "unthaw" it.
 
My Concise Oxford English Dictionary doesn't list "unthaw". Must be an Americanism.

On the subject of negatives: why do we describe someone or something uncivilised as "uncouth" but never use "couth" for the opposite?
 
You might say thaw and melt are the same and with water that is true but perhaps not with chicken or iron.

"Hello dear, just back from the foundry where I have been thawing iron all day, have you melted the chicken from the freezer?"
 
how about dismantle and mantle? if you dismantle something you take it apart. do you call putting it back together mantleing it?

huh?
 
When two planes almost collide, why is it called a "near miss"?

Didn't they actually miss?

It was a miss but it was very near, therefore a near miss.

I've never heard of unthaw (<- neither has the Firefox spell checker) but it seems to me that logically, unthaw should mean re-freeze.
 
I know it works for 'flammable' and 'inflammable', but 'thaw' and 'unthaw' are completely opposite actions. 'Unthaw' does not mean 'defreeze', and television voice-over announcers should know better.

I can't find any evidence that shows you are correct on this one... I'd never heard of unthawing, but by looking it up in the dictionary and elsewhere, I learned that it's pretty much the same as thaw.
 
I have never heard anyone ever say unthaw, and anyone I know would make fun of someone who said it, and they would assume it was a slip of the tongue and not something said intentionally.
 
I'd interpret anyone who said it as combining un(freeze) + thaw, and just being excited about the rhetorical power of redundancy.
 
I've heard the term "unthaw" used many times, but I always thought it was a Southern colloquialism. But GSDX is way up there in Canada, so it must be more widespread than I thought.

I've heard it used as "I need to unthaw the pipes" when referring to thawing out frozen water pipes. Or "I need to unthaw the refrigerator" when referring to defrosting the refrigerator. Or "I need to go into the house and unthaw," meaning "to go inside and warm up."
 
Cambridge doesn't have it either. American basterdisation. *Haughty face*
 
Never heard of UNthaw - just doesn't make any sense to me !!

I would think that if you UN Something - you UNdo what was done - so un-thawing would most logically be re-freezing? no?

and i WORM the dog - not DE-WORM him !! should i be UN-worming him? BAH HUMBUG !

(and when i do it a second time - REworming? no - that would have to be re-de-worming.

zippy-de-doo-dah !!
 
Somebody in my family used to sometimes say "unthaw" when I still lived "at home" (in Michigan). I think it was my sister who was born 3 years before me.

I'm glad that George W. Bush is SIDENT now. For eight years he was PRE-sident.

I've fixed the place up, replaced weak spots, repainted it, etc. - so, if it's no longer decrepit, is it CREPIT?

When something finally falls, does it become CARIOUS?

I think I'll go to the store and buy just a KABOODLE - I don't need the kit.

Why do WISE MAN and WISE GUY mean different things?

When you give water to a horse, you're watering the horse. What are you doing when you give the cat a saucer-full of milk?

If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do humanitarians eat?

When you cool something off for the very first time, do you only frigerate it?

People talk about having a "hot water heater." When it's turned on for the first time, it's only a WATER HEATER. But after it's been running, it maintains the temperature of the water and, therefore, has now indeed become a HOT water heater.
 
Grab hold of a few students and stick them on this thread and it's only a matter of time before someone brings up the issue of antidissestablishmentarianism. oh wait... I did.

I do however have to agree with my fellow Britons that it would appear to be some hideous Americanism! I've just logged into the Oxford English dictionary online edition which has every single one of the over 2.5 million words officially recognised as 'English' it says

"(USAGE Logically, the verb unthaw should mean ‘freeze’, but in North America it means exactly the same as thaw (as in the warm weather helped unthaw the rail lines); because of the risk of confusion it is not part of standard usage. Unthawed as an adjective always means ‘still frozen’, but it is best avoided because many contexts may be ambiguous, such as use frozen (unthawed) blueberries.)"


So there we are the OED says it is a word but it doesn't make sense. And if the OED says it it must be true!
 
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