Why do certain black people say it is impossible for them to be racist?

[IamNoah]

Cubans in Cuba are almost as visibly mixed as Dominicans. But Cuban Americans do tend to be fairly Euro-featured, except of course for Celia Cruz. I still have yet to meet a Cuban American who insisted that they were white, though I have no doubt as to their existence.

 

[luckynumbah7]

I'm interested in seeing a space/person who you think fits this description.

I actually know a hell of a lot of people like that an they run the gamut on intersections. Tumblr freedomfromwickedness and at least half the people who've ever liked her more divisive posts, as a single example. There's people like that everywhere and it's far from only race. There's been a few interesting articles on call-out culture but I tend to disagree with how things are framed therein. I suggest some booze before reading however.

I actually do think nonwhite ppl can do institutional racism based on someone else's race (particularly in countries where white isn't the majority) -it just involves using the current system that one is in to fuck someone else over. And the ppl being screwed with in that way most often aren't white people.

 

[IamNoah]

I actually know a hell of a lot of people like that an they run the gamut on intersections. Tumblr freedomfromwickedness and at least half the people who've ever liked her more divisive posts, as a single example. There's people like that everywhere and it's far from only race. There's been a few interesting articles on call-out culture but I tend to disagree with how things are framed therein. I suggest some booze before reading however.

I actually do think nonwhite ppl can do institutional racism based on someone else's race (particularly in countries where white isn't the majority) -it just involves using the current system that one is in to fuck someone else over. And the ppl being screwed with in that way most often aren't white people.

The first three pages of this tumblr do not offer any examples of what I see as leftist kvetching. Example please.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Pffffft - you've been reading the wrong 'Everyday Feminism' (first cuz there isn't one and second cuz the obnoxious circle jerkers are always the loudest. People just love to point to the loudest and decry it as everyday feminism - that way they feel better about doing jack shit on issues that they think don't affect them.

 

[luckynumbah7]

The first three pages of this tumblr do not offer any examples of what I see as leftist kvetching. Example please.

-shrugs- I avoid her site like the plague, I figured since she adores the more opp. than thou a recent example would be quick to find. Gimme a sec

 

[luckynumbah7]

I think that might depend on your def of feminism. Most of the people I know don't consider it merely a middle class straight White woman's issue. Ex; that 77 cents on the dollar as a first world problem for woman that people like to point to and P'shaw at is actually only for white able bodied women. Everyone else when taken as a group gets lower pay, including a lot of pwd's.

 

[-Kane-]

Usually you're more verbose ^_^

You're quite observant. As you are correct...but I have nothing to add to this debate.

 

[luckynumbah7]

....yeah, I didn't know everyday feminism was a blog. Being reduced to looks isn't a first world issue though the example might have been. Unless other countries award shows do the same thing, and I strongly suspect they do. Few people give a shit what johnny depp is wearing, for instance. That's why of the magazines people use women to sell both men and women products. When you being male becomes a commodity then you can pontificate.

Feminism to me isn't about just women.

 

[mikemizanin729]

21st Century feminism has become nothing more than hating on men.


Enough said.

 

[luckynumbah7]

-shrugs- I avoid her site like the plague, I figured since she adores the more opp. than thou a recent example would be quick to find. Gimme a sec

On second and third thoughts just type in afab in her search bar, it's easier. Or trans anything on tumblr in general. Def cross reference with reproductive rights, race, disability in particular because she likes to ignore that when her own intersections come to play. She's okay on most single issues but she fucking sucks at intersection. You can tell because there's both verbal abuse and she's always, Always on the bottom rung of the ladder. Like most people I've seen discuss more than one intersection at once it turns into a weird mesh of Fill in the blank Woman's Tears and half valid/valid criticism. Ooooh, and trans/gender/insert anything else here. And it isn't just her but the last time I went to her blog 'twas going on. Or you could just google horizontal hostility/you hurt my feelings! which is a huge part of s jw criticism among ppl I know, but then the ppl I know are discussing that and call-out culture's thing. Which I think one in part breeds the other. The tricky thing is some people identify as sjw's and others use it disparingly. The shorter version is I'm not raising my blood pressure reading her blog again but using hashtags one of which is afab Should do it.

 

[IamNoah]

I guess I'm still not getting the SJW label.

 

[luckynumbah7]

Trans, afab/A mab/ gender all being different hashtags. And if y'really want to see a sjw's circle jerk of "you're always better off than me!" Look at the doublethink of "being read as male only confirms privilege when it wasn't me" and I haven't yet figured out why someone would think internal privilege was greater than the physical you received from others but heh, the pretzels some people go through. I think a large part of it is people considering privilege a dirty word. You can see another dynamic of it as it relates to disabled people discussing invisible/visible disabilities an when you add gender to the mix it can get particularly nasty.

 

[luckynumbah7]

I guess I'm still not getting the SJW label.

It's meant to be literal. As in "everything is greater or lesser than this other thing always" which is the erroneous definition of privilege- aka working towards social justice- Always being the key word -and intersections don't occur unless they're my intersections. The warrior part is more for tongue in cheek, except for the ppl who identify with battling. That's how I use it anyways.