Why Do Gay Republicans Disdain the Gay Community?

[DiamondSkin]

Somehow, during my Internet search for a subject I know forget, I stumbled upon a very popular blog written by gay conservatives.

Out of morbid curiousity, I browsed the site as I find gay conservatives an endless source of fascination:

http://www.gaypatriot.net/

http://conservativerainbow.blogspot.com/

I ignored the bits about fiscal conservatism and outrage about Democrat policies, Obama or frustration about the economy.

That I could handle.

I just focused on the bits about gay rights, gay politics, and the general issue of the gay community.

I summarized a list of endlessly hilarious observations I discovered while browsing these blogs:

- Most of the gay conservatives on the site claim to have come out of a very religious background and still suffer issues with this to this day (gee, I wonder if that has to do with anything...)

- Most of the gay conservatives on the site claim have 'friends' who disagree with them being gay and have voted against gay marriage but prefer their company much more than other gay people....

- All the blog owners are perpetually single. One has (supposedly) pledged to be celibate for the past three years.

- The gay conservatives continually attack gay rights activists as 'hateful', 'intolerant' and 'drama queens' yet they ignore the actions of the religious right.

- Any pro-gay policy or action taken by a Democrat is automatically deemed as 'lip-service' or 'pandering'. Any pro-gay policy or action taken by Republicans is worshiped and greeted with great praise.

- Gay pride parades are seen as 'in-your-face homosexuality' and detrimental our public image.

- Gay clubs, gay bars, gay books and gay TV are all viewed as instruments that destroy gay culture.

- Manhunt and gay porn has already destroyed gay culture

- Mormons who donated money against gay marriage were only practicing their religious liberty. Gay rights activists who refused business to those who voted against gay marriage is 'hate-mongering'.

- ENDA is not necessary. Businesses should be allowed to discriminate against homosexuals.

- The Hate Crime Legislation should not have included homosexuals.

- DADT is not worth repealing.

- Gay conservatives talk about gay rights yet they almost always refuse to support several pro-gay rights legislations or laws. Example: Proposition 1 in Maine....

- When a liberal or Democrat comes out in support of gay people, eye-rolling from gay conservatives come in droves. When a conservative talk show host says 'not all gays are bad' the gay conservatives show him with praises and gold.

- Gay conservatives refuse to take part in the National Equality March for gay rights in D.C. yet they'll happily attend a tea-bagging party in the middle of nowhere.

- The ALCU, HRC and other gay rights organizations are all inherently evil. Fox News, the NRA and Family Research Council are all good.

- Most of the gay conservatives simply do not like other gay people. Most of their friends are straight and they view themselves as outsiders.

- Gay conservatives will eagerly attack Obama for in action in regards to the loss of gay marriage in states. They'll ignore the actions of conservatives and Republicans who made the loss possible in the first place.

- Most gay conservatives do not even want gay marriage in the first place as they see it as an affront to religious liberty.


All I saw were endless contradictions. Thank god these people have no real power in gay activism.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

Other things i've found...

- anyone who's out to more than just closest friends or immediate family is "shouting it from the rooftops" or 'prancing through the streets."

- They praise the long-term relationships of their parents and straight siblings but refer to their own relationships as "who I'm fucking." i.e. "I don't tell my mother about the guy I've been dating for 5 years and who's living with me because it's none of her business who I'm fucking." That they know their mother is married to their father somehow is different.

- It's much easier to sit at home and complain about how other gay people live their lives than it is for them get a life of their own. Too often their excuse for not being out is that drag queens are annoying or the effeminate club kids in West Hollywood give gay people a bad name.

- They seem scared of their own urges. It's not enough to just not go downtown the day of Pride Day, they always say "oh, I go out of town that weekend" to stop themselves from accidentally going out and having fun.

- They seem to brag an awful lot about doing things they deem "straight." I have to listen to endless stories about watching football games with their "straight friends" or partaking in activities they deem more masculine. They tend to make a really big deal about not liking things they deem "gay."

 

[swerve]

I don't think that they disdain us...

And I suspect that working WITHIN the "enemy" might prove beneficial to all of us...

I JUST WISH -- that we could get AWAY from PARTISAN politics an actually work to BETTER THE NATION AS A WHOLE...

Oh well...

Probably won't happen soon...

 

[DigitalFudge]

Well this is interesting.

Whatever works for them.

 

[JB1986]

These people just sound sad, in a really pathetic way. They can have their opinions and all, but still I don't understand hy anyone could willfully be that unhappy.

 

[jizzeater]

But that would be too long. How about:

"Self hating [STRIKE]faggot[/STRIKE] gay person"?

/endthread

 

[youngnihilist]

Oh please. I'm a gay, red blooded conservative American and I love gay boys, fem boys, West Hollywood clubs and bars, gay marriage, etc. You know it's not all black or white.

 

[DiamondSkin]

Oh please. I'm a gay, red blooded conservative American and I love gay boys, fem boys, West Hollywood clubs and bars, gay marriage, etc. You know it's not all black or white.

Than please enlighten your presence at these blogs.

These poor souls are spinning about like a pair of a eggs in a blender....

 

[resonance]

"Self hating faggot"?

Pardon me for prioritizing the economic and diplomatic future of the United States over a bit more freedom in my private life.

Gay rights is not the only issue on the Democratic platform. It isn't even an front-line issue. Just watch Dems such as Obama evade the issue and make empty promises time and time again. The truth is, pro-gay rights is not a popular political stance in our nation in this day and age.

Anyways, there is a sizable sector of conservatism known as "fiscal conservatives" that do not largely concern themselves with gay rights. They make up the Libertarian Party that votes Republican because we have a two party system. You can be conservative and not "gay hating".

Perhaps your disdain of conservatives is confounded with your own liberalism instead of solely homosexuality.

 

[DBSKIsMine]

While I always tend to lean left of center, I do have to admit that I think that certain public actions of the gay community tend to hinder our cause.

Actions like those seen in a thread in the gay porn forum (naked street parade or whatever) really support the stereotype that all gay men are promiscuous sex-crazed deviants with little motivation in life outside of their next fuck.

While I'm all for diversity and gay pride, I think there's a point where we really need to understand that in order to gain the rights we so desire, we must bring home the idea that outside of the fact that who we sleep with or who we are in a committed relationship with is a person of the same gender, we really AREN'T that different from any heterosexual individual. Approaching their arguments as mature, responsible adults instead of the aforementioned deviants they claim that we are (and that such photographic evidence lends quite a bit of credence to) would increase our credibility more than any amount of picketing, pride marches, and celebrations of diversity could hope to accomplish.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

my private life.

There's that "it none of anyone's business who I'm fucking" I was talking about.

To gay conservatives, their personal lives are "private" like their "private parts." Dirty, unseemly... something to hide.

Oh, they love to go on about Sarah Palin's big huge family of freaks.... but no no.. only heterosexuals are allowed to parade their families in public... gay people must keep them... "private."

 

[Passion4Muzik]

It is the one thing that prevents them from fully partaking in white privilege?

 

[Piquechampion]

While I always tend to lean left of center, I do have to admit that I think that certain public actions of the gay community tend to hinder our cause.

Actions like those seen in a thread in the gay porn forum (naked street parade or whatever) really support the stereotype that all gay men are promiscuous sex-crazed deviants with little motivation in life outside of their next fuck.

While I'm all for diversity and gay pride, I think there's a point where we really need to understand that in order to gain the rights we so desire, we must bring home the idea that outside of the fact that who we sleep with or who we are in a committed relationship with is a person of the same gender, we really AREN'T that different from any heterosexual individual. Approaching their arguments as mature, responsible adults instead of the aforementioned deviants they claim that we are (and that such photographic evidence lends quite a bit of credence to) would increase our credibility more than any amount of picketing, pride marches, and celebrations of diversity could hope to accomplish.

Excuse me, but have you been or seen how straight people behave in mardi grasses or carnivals (like in New Orleans or Rio)????

 

[jizzeater]

^ Excellent point

 

[resonance]

Yes, your 'private life'. If you treat being a homosexual as a 'private life' you might as well stay in the closet.

Please. There's no need to strawman. Semantics. I would have said "private life" whether I was homosexual or otherwise.

As others have pointed out, homosexuals don't have to flaunt their promiscuity to make a statement. Maked gay parades are not helping the gay cause. Rather, it just alienates homosexuals from the rest of society further. Let's not have overtly "private" relations or flamboyantly "public" ones. Let's just have normal relationships like normal people.

Why the criticism of the Democratic party when the Republican party is so obviously contemptuous of us? It's like there is something to fall back on when you are casting stones but there isn't. The Republican Party is against gay rights, period. There is no sugar coating it.

I won't deny this. I just have priorities beyond gay rights and I find both efforts by Republicans and Democrats to have rather marginal effects on my life. "Gay rights" (for or against) just doesn't tick my political radar.

Since this is a gay message board, not a political one, I fully understand why forumers would have so great a support in the movement. But I'm just pointing out for many Americans out there, including homosexuals, this just isn't much of an issue.

 

[Piquechampion]

You call this normal????

Oh, wait cuz it's, like in the Carrie Prejean wisdom, ¨opposite sex¨ debauchery, then it is normal and good.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

Let's just have normal relationships like normal people.

Normal? And... normal to whom?

Is the only way to get equality under the law to emulate the idealistic and unrealistic rules of heterosexual relationships?

I mean.. Tiger Woods is now up to what... 10 mistresses? Is that normal?

Or can gay people make their own rules and not have to beg for acceptance and suck up to straight people and follow a bunch of social rules that they don't even follow themselves?

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

you just ruined your argument (or lack there of) by using tiger woods as an example. you just tried to suggest that bc he's straight he can get away with it...lol, his life is completely fucked, we are only seeing the beginning of his life about to implode on him.

..and yet... he still has the rights that are denied to me and my husband of 17 years.

so does Britney Spears who once got married for a joke in Vegas for 14 hours.

I didn't ruin my argument at all.. you're just too thick to get it.

Straight people love to pretend that they're protecting marriage by denying rights and protections to us when all they're really doing is placing themselves up on a pedestal.

Saying that we don't deserve rights because we don't pretend to be respectable in public while being a bunch of perverts with no personal control in private is what you want?

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

This sort of shit doesn't help all that much

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=287996

Yeah because straight men would never want to have a three way with two identical twin girls, would they? Or wait... doesn't Austin Powers do that in a movie that was rated PG while being cheered on by the audience?

Again.. we're held to a standard that straight people don't follow themselves.

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

calm down, i agree with you on the marrage issue, but only for financial reasons, but thats bc i dont believe in marrage other than for financial reasons, if you like someone, be with them...if not, then don't. just my opinion, its a joke these days

If my husband loses his job, he has 14 days to leave the country.

There's more than financial reasons for me. If we were a straight couple, he'd have citizenship by now. but he doesn't.

But straight people OFTEN take money from foreigners to fake marriage so they can get green cards. Hey, there's been more than a few "romantic comedies" about it. there's also a nice comedy where two straight men pretend to be gay to get benefits.

I wish it was that easy for me. But it isn't. We live under the constant threat that we could be forced apart after nearly two decades together. Because we're not as deserving of rights as Tiger Woods or Britney Spears, I guess.