Why Hasn't Obama's Kids Taken The H1N1 shot?

[Kulindahr]

What about the White House staff?

They'd better be getting theirs -- after all, Obama declared a national emergency to expedite the shots!

 

[NickCole]

You'd think that there would be a little news story about the prez and his family getting the flu shots...

It would make a great photo op.

Or, maybe it wouldn't... With the supply running so low maybe that would send the wrong message... I don't know.

Yeah this really is a no-win PR situation for Obama.

But I hope, if the vaccine is safe and effective, they're lying and both he and the First Lady have been vaccinated. I mean, I don't believe they're waiting their turn --nor should they-- along with other Americans not in high risk groups.

I still don't understand, though, why there isn't plenty of the vaccine to go around. Seems there was plenty of time to produce it.

 

[opinterph]

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[Ambrocious]

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Never the less, I'll capitulate.

 

[Ambrocious]

LMAO!

Obama gets a shot..... it's bad because he didn't wait his turn because he's not in a high risk group. Obama doesn't get a shot..... it's bad because this means something is wrong with the vaccine. They say they did get a shot, they may be lying.

The only thing you said in your post that made any sense was "I still don't understand".

Christ almighty!.... the depths these Obama haters go to.

Some do hate but that is misplaced hatred from ignorance. P.S. Your avatar makes me drool!

 

[NickCole]

LMAO!

Obama gets a shot..... it's bad because he didn't wait his turn because he's not in a high risk group. Obama doesn't get a shot..... it's bad because this means something is wrong with the vaccine. They say they did get a shot, they may be lying.

The only thing you said in your post that made any sense was "I still don't understand".

Christ almighty!.... the depths these Obama haters go to.

Interesting what you took from my post.

What I wrote, with emphasis to show you the substance that flew over your head (if you scroll over it you can see the parts I whited out):

But I hope, if the vaccine is safe and effective, they're lying and both he and the First Lady have been vaccinated. I mean, I don't believe they're waiting their turn --nor should they-- along with other Americans not in high risk groups.

 

[catbox_911]

I got an H1N1 and seasonal flu shot (I'm a health care worker so there was no shortage for me). Amazingly, I have not developed Guillain–Barré syndrome nor have I developed autism. Maybe those shots aren't so dangerous after all?

 

[NickCole]

I got an H1N1 and seasonal flu shot (I'm a health care worker so there was no shortage for me). Amazingly, I have not developed Guillain–Barré syndrome nor have I developed autism. Maybe those shots aren't so dangerous after all?

Yes you were the one everybody was waiting for.

If the shots had no ill effect on you, we're all safe.

Thanks for the breaking news.

 

[hotatlboi]

The twisting and tweaking of rules and laws for ones own purpose is a conflict of interest. Had the article appeased to the your essence and liking, you would have thought twice before pulling it off and exercising your right to do your job.

You're being completely irrational here and making a totally unfounded accusation which is in bad taste. Opinterph is easily one of the most objective posters on this forum. He does not silence people just because he disagrees with them.

 

[Ambrocious]

You're being completely irrational here and making a totally unfounded accusation which is in bad taste. Opinterph is easily one of the most objective posters on this forum. He does not silence people just because he disagrees with them.

OK, sorry for being irrational. My apologies to Opinterph for being so rash. I didn't mean to turn this into a personal battle here but I took it personal. I can now see that Opinterph isn't to blame, this topic along with many other political topics are heated up.

I still don't trust these vaccinations. I personally got the sine flu I believe on the 14th and was over it on the 16th. I defeated it old fashioned like. Chicken noodle soup, sprite and water. I also took Colloidal silver too and despite the fear mongering against it, I took it and didn't turn funky colors. On the second day (the last day into the flu) I drank 1 bottle of 4 Oz of 10 PPM Colloidal silver and by the end of that day, my fever was gone completely. Now this could have been a coincidence and just lasted for 2 days as some flu's do last or it could have been due to more old fashioned techniques along with a natural tactic...Colloidal Silver.

I strongly recommend you look into this and don't believe the propaganda against this amazing product either people. Rather than take these shots, try out some natural stuff as it DOES work more than you know.

The reason that a lot of natural remedies are frowned upon by the FDA is because ANYONE can produce natural remedies and therefor they do not suggest that you take it since they can't tax most natural things which makes them lose out on money. For quite some time now, natural remedies have been heavily demonized and made to look totally ineffective when in reality, it works great.

 

[Kulindahr]

Colloidal silver isn't effective against viruses at all; it only affects biological organisms. So that wasn't what knocked out your flu virus.

It might have helped indirectly by knocking out any little infections or other bacterial invaders your body was fighting -- very indirectly.

Fortunately, silver isn't toxic for humans except in very high concentrations, so you certainly didn't do any harm, either.

 

[Ambrocious]

Colloidal silver isn't effective against viruses at all; it only affects biological organisms. So that wasn't what knocked out your flu virus.

It might have helped indirectly by knocking out any little infections or other bacterial invaders your body was fighting -- very indirectly.

Fortunately, silver isn't toxic for humans except in very high concentrations, so you certainly didn't do any harm, either.

From this governmental website, it admits that micro silver particles are effective against the "quarantining" of virus', HIV-1 in this matter, and if it can successfully imprison viruses such as HIV-1, it can sure as heck do the same for H1N1 virus! Look, here is what it says in one part of the article:

The interaction of nanoparticles with biomolecules and microorganisms is an expanding field of research. Within this field, an area that has been largely unexplored is the interaction of metal nanoparticles with viruses. In this work, we demonstrate that silver nanoparticles undergo a size-dependent interaction with HIV-1, with nanoparticles exclusively in the range of 1–10 nm attached to the virus. The regular spatial arrangement of the attached nanoparticles, the center-to-center distance between nanoparticles, and the fact that the exposed sulfur-bearing residues of the glycoprotein knobs would be attractive sites for nanoparticle interaction suggest that silver nanoparticles interact with the HIV-1 virus via preferential binding to the gp120 glycoprotein knobs. Due to this interaction, silver nanoparticles inhibit the virus from binding to host cells, as demonstrated in vitro.

The silver particles inhibit (stops) the virsu from binding (sticking to) the host cells (you). So what does this mean if it can even BIND HIV-1 virus? Colloidal Silver acts as a prison cell to a virus, mold, bacteria and even internal parasites! Please read this very important article on just how Colloidal Silver works.

Please don't purposefully be blinded people. I'm not saying this to make any of you guys mad at me, I'm telling you this so you don't have to rely on the government for your "proper" treatment. Take matters into your own hands. The most trustworthy person you should rely on is an educated YOU!

 

[andysayshi]

^ It sounds like you had a cold or upper respiratory infection, rather than flu. Of course, without verification by the appropriate test, you'll never know if you actually had swine flu. Swine flu typically makes you bedridden-sick for 5-7 days.

I know three people who have had verified swine flu: two friends who are policemen and one who's an emergency room nurse. All three of them are fit, healthy men in their 30s, and all three were incredibly sick for at least 5 days - all three have commented that they have NEVER had a cold or flu so bad in their lives.

I seriously doubt you had swine flu if you were over it in 48 hours, regardless of what you drank. It sounds like what my mother calls "man-flu" - "Women get colds, men get flu" is her adage.

With more than 100 million swine flu immunizations now having been administered worldwide (including to my parents) I've yet to hear a single report of poisoning. miscarriage, seizure, anaphylaxis, or autism.

 

[Ambrocious]

^ It sounds like you had a cold or upper respiratory infection, rather than flu. Of course, without verification by the appropriate test, you'll never know if you actually had swine flu. Swine flu typically makes you bedridden-sick for 5-7 days.

I know three people who have had verified swine flu: two friends who are policemen and one who's an emergency room nurse. All three of them are fit, healthy men in their 30s, and all three were incredibly sick for at least 5 days - all three have commented that they have NEVER had a cold or flu so bad in their lives.

I seriously doubt you had swine flu if you were over it in 48 hours, regardless of what you drank. It sounds like what my mother calls "man-flu" - "Women get colds, men get flu" is her adage.

With more than 100 million swine flu immunizations now having been administered worldwide (including to my parents) I've yet to hear a single report of poisoning. miscarriage, seizure, anaphylaxis, or autism.

It was confirmed swine flu. My friend Pat had gotten it and his lasted for 6 days. I had taken care of him for 3 days straight and so when I got it on the fourth day of taking care of him, I did not feel good at all. On the first day I drank plenty of water and some Sprite and some 7Up and ate chicken noodle soup and took some Tylenol. On the second day is when I broke out the Colloidal Silver and incrementally, through out the day, I drank the bottle (was only 4 Oz PPM) and at the end of the day the fever was gone. I woke up the next morning with still no fever with only a remaining small amount of phlegm that lasted in my bronchial tubes for 3 days afterward.

So yes, I did get over it pretty quickly and in part it may have been based on a person to person type of thing as well as me taking the Colloidal Silver. It does indeed work pretty darn well.

Once I got an infection on my leg (had a nasty cut) and I peeled off the scab and wiped it clean and then I dropped some Colloidal Silver on it and let it sit there for about 25 min (was hell keeping my leg still so it wouldn't run off my leg) and it healed up that infection pretty darn quick, loads quicker than anything I have ever used anyways. It can be taken orally as well as used on cuts and outward infections.

 

[Kulindahr]

Colloidal Silver acts as a prison cell to a virus, mold, bacteria and even internal parasites! Please read this very important article on just how Colloidal Silver works.

I wasn't aware of the ion activity with this; maybe it is effective against a virus.

But if what the article relates is true, that the silver kills the cells that have been invaded by a virus, I'd think you definitely wouldn't want to use it at all unless you caught a virus in the very, very early stages, because viruses will take over billions of cells in your body, and killing all those cells doesn't sound healthy.

For example. I've got a chronic lung virus, and the docs say the virus probably resides in half my lung cells now. Do I want to kill half my lungs???


It sounds worth looking into, though. I say that also because of some other research I'm aware of: it's been shown to be virtually impossible for bacteria or viruses to be transmitted by shared use of real silver vessels, such as in traditional Christian communion vessels. Maybe there's a 'silver protection factor' of some sort going on there.

 

[Kulindahr]

It was confirmed swine flu. My friend Pat had gotten it and his lasted for 6 days. I had taken care of him for 3 days straight and so when I got it on the fourth day of taking care of him, I did not feel good at all. On the first day I drank plenty of water and some Sprite and some 7Up and ate chicken noodle soup and took some Tylenol. On the second day is when I broke out the Colloidal Silver and incrementally, through out the day, I drank the bottle (was only 4 Oz PPM) and at the end of the day the fever was gone. I woke up the next morning with still no fever with only a remaining small amount of phlegm that lasted in my bronchial tubes for 3 days afterward.

Just as a matter of interest:

researchers (loaded with government money) not too many years back actually undertook to study whether chicken soup has any salutory effects on colds and flu. They started with a bunch of common shelf brands, and gathered a batch of home recipes as well. College students during winter term provided the test subjects.

Turns out that chicken soup, properly prepared, does have benefits. "Properly prepared" has to do with a number of things, and the one that sticks in my mind is that it has to contain the right herbs and spices. But those herbs and spices don't do the trick on their own; there's some catalyzing factor from the chicken that's necessary, too.



And now back to our regularly scheduled Obama-trashing.

 

[Edward Twinkletoes]

fear-mongering about the bad flu ingredients etc PP and all those vaccine panic and anti-vaccine movement is even just as silly.

Well, I used to think the same thing. The way they've been so shrill over this has really made me wonder. You'd think if they didn't want to give any credence to those guys, they wouldn't try to browbeat people into getting their flu shot. It's just.......creepy.

They seem to be being really pushy and aggressive about it. Whenever I see someone on the news talking about it, they're almost scowling. And then they say it - "And can you believe that some people STILL refuse to get this shot?" My own parents aren't as concerned about my health as random people on the news are.

 

[Ambrocious]

Yeah, they are really trying to push the shot pretty hard.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mevomZ--uY]Just Shutup & Take Your Damn Flu Shot[/ame]

From the CDC website, they warn that the Guillain-Barre Syndrome is related with the H1N1 shot but as always with precautions are very far underplayed saying that 1 out of 100,000 people got it but the figures are actually far higher in other studies aside from the CDC website which is a governmental body and organization. On this CDC post it says that the nerve cell damage associated with GBS is caused by the persons own immune system stating that people over 50 have a higher risk of catching GBS. They fail to make any connection with with Thimerosal whatsover as it has been known to cause nerve damage and is in the seasonal flu vaccine as well as the H1N1 vaccine which has up to 5 times that normal dosage of Thimerosal than any other flu shot.

Is the 2009 H1N1 flu shot expected to be associated with Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS)?

In 1976, an earlier type of swine flu vaccine was associated with cases of a severe paralytic illness called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS) at a rate of approximately 1 case of GBS per 100,000 persons vaccinated. Some studies done since 1976 have shown a small risk of GBS in persons who received the seasonal influenza vaccine. This risk is estimated to be no more than 1 case of GBS per 1 million persons vaccinated. Pregnant women should tell the person giving the shots if they have ever had GBS.

One other thing very interesting is that they claim Thimerosal is a "safe" preservative in the shots when in fact, on Wikipedia it clearly states that it is highly toxic and it induces programmed cell death. Wikipedia claims that autism is not yet proven to be an effect from Thimerosal but many doctors and scientists are claiming that it is. As this information requires more researching (sadly this will probably happen during and after the vaccinations via the H1N1 vaccine) the final outcome will most likely be spoken out against the use of Thimerosal as a primary use for a preservative.

 

[Kulindahr]

The people who push this sort of program have a sort of schizophrenic dissociation going on: on the one hand, they want everyone to get the shot "for their own good", and so they seemingly care, yet at the same time they really don't care about individuals, because even though they know that some individuals are going to suffer devastating side effects, they still insist/demand that every last person get a shot, with no choice in the matter if they had their way.

So they care about people in the aggregate, but not as individuals.

 

[andysayshi]

The value of immunization is only gained when it is undertaken by all those at risk. In the case of H1N1, that's the majority.

Before global immunization, chicken pox killed 100 Americans every year, and hospitalized thousands more.

Global deaths from measles dropped over 400,000 from 1999 to 2004 after a global immunization drive. US measles deaths have dropped 99% since immunization began in 1963.

Small pox? Polio? Whooping cough? All minimized or eradicated through immunization.

If 1 in 100,000 immunizations causes reaction, the cost is far less than the consequences. And there is not one documented, scientifically proven case of an immunization preservative causing autism, death, programmed cell death, or any of the other conspiratorial nonsense mentioned above.

Like I said earlier, the value of immunization is undermined by these not-jub conspiracy theories.