Why is it that the Jews claim Anti-Semitism...

[Apollo]

Oh google and CBS News. Of course! Silly me.

Google is a aggregator of news sites, click the link to see where it came from. And CBS news is as reputable as BBC.

I guess I should post links to Al Jazeera news stories. I am sure they are fair and balanced and completely unbiased.

 

[MawellEvans]

what's a semite?

 

[Apollo]

Well thanks for the link to the Israeli website, but I still am on the side of the Israeli's in this conflict.

 

[Apollo]

Even if I had a unbiased source, I would still side with the Israeli's. No matter what news source you read from, Hamas attacked first.

 

[Apollo]

Any other part of the world, if some terrorist group or country attacked another, it would be all out war.

 

[Apollo]

Oh yes because starving a group of people with a blockade and leaving them no other option except DIE or RETALIATE isn't "an attack."

Also, how does attacking and KILLING innocent civilians (including children I might add) constitute a proportionate retaliatory attack on Hamas?

You were never going to see this any other way because you fundamentally believe Israsel = Good and Palestine = Bad, and you've been taught that by a bigoted, truth-diluting mainstream media that had a strong Israel Lobby behind it.

I'd still like to know if you've ever been to this part of the world and seen what actually goes on there?

I dont think Palestine is bad, I think Hamas is bad, and it is.

And what would you have Israel do? Hamas is attacking from residential areas. Israel is warning people before attacking and they are choosing to stay.

They blockaded them because they were smuggling weapons in, and Hamas has only one enemy to which they are fighting, the weapons are for no one else.

I get this information from the BBC article you linked btw.

 

[Apollo]

Oh of course, because Front Page Mag isn't biased, but a UN appointee and International Law Professor at Princeton who spent his life working on this and an internationally recognized publication like The Nation -- they are biased.

Please. Keep proving my point about the US mainstream media.

His credentials doesnt say anything about his personal feelings on anything. Just because he has worked for the UN and wrote for the Nation doesnt mean he cant be as biased as the next person.

No one should be put on a pedestal because everyone has self interest.

 

[Willie Boy]

As has crzyrazn with his "concrete evidence" clause. Prejudice isn't always easy to prove. 50 years from now when discrimination against gays is illegal, it will still happen in discreet manners that have no "concrete evidence." When it's illegal to fire gays cuz they're gay, a distraction reason will be provided.

No good can come from taking a concrete position and sticking to it, no matter what, refusing to budge or accept variables.

For that matter, I agree with the OP on one hand, but sometimes the problem isn't with the Jew or the black, rather with the person who assumes that they must censor themselves. I'm a light-hearted, easy-going guy but for some reason people feel the need to offer huge disclaimers whenever they say a sentence with the word "black" in it. "I'm not racist. I don't mean any offense. Don't take this the wrong way but....." It's ridiculous and unnecessary, the assumption is that if they say something to upset me I'm going to go on a rampage. I've seen white people tell "white people" jokes to their white friends and there's never any disclaimers or assumptions that the white person will be uber-sensitive about it.

Perhaps the problem is that you censor yourself because you make assumptions about how a Jewish or black person would respond, you assume they're ultra-sensitive and enjoy playing the victim role. Depending on the situation you could either be right, or you could be acting out a prejudice.

Don't take this the wrong way... but what's with that tiny wood pecker in your av?

 

[Willie Boy]

what's a semite?

Atermite that eats wooden peckers to get the semen inside?

 

[Apollo]

Then can't the same be said of your "reputable sources?"

I never put them on a pedestal.

You come in at the most random times.

 

[Apollo]

He was here before, and marley has a good BULLSHIT meter.

I know, I read his stuff, and I know of his bullshit meter. I wasnt spreading bullshit though.

I never one denied the American media isnt biased. I did say CBS was still reputable though. I dont believe the BBC is fully unbiased either.

 

[Apollo]

The only place I would ever go in the middle east is Turkey. I love the country, and I have always wanted to visit.

Personally, I dont see how visiting the Middle East will make me change my perspective on Israel. Especially if they ever found out I was gay.

 

[Apollo]

There are lots of gays in the Middle East my friend, and they're not all being stoned to death. Another one of your misinformed ideas no doubt.

Fine, link me to stories of gays in the Middle East living open and free.

And don't cite India.

 

[MawellEvans]

what's a semite?

 

[Apollo]

what's a semite?

there is this incredible invention called a dictionary.

1. a member of any of various ancient and modern peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs.
2. a Jew.
3. a member of any of the peoples descended from Shem, the eldest son of Noah.

 

[Ram]

You can't cite India. India is not even considered part of the Middle East.

 

[Apollo]

You can't cite India. India is not even considered part of the Middle East.

it is in the Middle East though. well not true, it's considered a sub continent all it's own. nevertheless, i want to read this for myself.

I am waiting for links to the UAE and Turkey, possibly Jordan. Although I know nothing on Jordan at all.

 

[chatolandia]

So, if a Jew wants to hurt the Arabs he is an anti-Semite?

Yeah, neither India ( nor Pakistan) are considered part of the Middle East...

 

[kyless85]

I find it tasteless that someone can try to prove a "point" out of an event where 800+ Palestinians and 13 Israelis have died.

I'm not even going to try to reason with the original poster because of this...

Wow! you're such a drama queen, don't be so ridiculous, and don't try to put things out of context. If you carefully read the original post, I didn't even mention the war, the topic switched to the conflict after a few posts. I didn't start by trying to prove a point on anti-semitism by stating the casualties. The point i was trying to prove with that is that, what's going on right now is a massacre! And don't you dare to call me tasteless, i have every fucking right to mention that.

 

[MawellEvans]

so the fighting is between semites and pakastanies?