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Why the serial (Oxford) comma is important

^ I only just realized it! - and I'm sorry for my humorless and pontifical response to MercuryJones's quote.

I'll slide back under my rock now.

-T.
 
teadrinker said:
^ I only just realized it! - and I'm sorry for my humorless and pontifical response to MercuryJones's quote.

I'll slide back under my rock now.

-T.
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Hey, you can't get every joke on the first try! Be easy on yourself.
 
Actually...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5yisUInmQs[/ame]

Who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?
I've seen those English dramas too
They're cruel
So if there's any other way
To spell the word
It's fine with me, with me

Why would you speak to me that way
Especially when I always said that I
Haven't got the words for you
All your diction dripping with disdain
Through the pain
I always tell the truth

Who gives a fuck about an Oxford comma?
I climbed to Dharamsala too
I did
I met the highest lama
His accent sounded fine
To me, to me

Check your handbook
It's no trick
Take the chapstick
Put it on your lips
Crack a smile
Adjust my tie
Know your boyfriend, unlike other guys

Why would you lie about how much coal you have?
Why would you lie about something dumb like that?
Why would you lie about anything at all?
First the window, then it's to the wall
Lil' Jon, he always tells the truth

Check your passport
It's no trick
Take the chapstick
Put it on your lips
Crack a smile
Adjust my tie
Know your butler, unlike other guys
Why would you lie about how much coal you have?
Why would you lie about something dumb like that?
Why would you lie about anything at all?
First the window, then it's through the wall
Why would you tape my conversations?
Show your paintings
At the United Nations
Lil' Jon, he always tells the trut
 
Aha! See, teadrinker? I didn't get the joke either! The difference is I thought I did.
 
Herewith, a review of the film thus described. Excerpt:
papersky said:
Here we have two men riding into a small town, two very different men who have nothing in common except that each of them bears the scars of having spent a decade being married to Merle. We can see the way Merle (and Merle's aftermath) has shaped both of their lives -- and Merle, although dead before it begins, shapes the film the same way.

Duvall is a cowboy, taciturn, reclusive, and you can still see how very gorgeous he must have been when he was young. Kristofferson is a singer who won Merle away from Duvall with a song. (The chords of the song haunt the movie, but we do not hear the words until the end.) They were once rivals for Merle's love, but now that Merle has been murdered they have to work together. They come to what's first a grudging respect for each other and later an actual friendship with just a hint of romance. The final shootout is beyond tense, and the last moments brought tears to my eyes.
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Some people say I’m an author,
Others say I’m a hack.
But I’m just a natural-born writin’ man,
Tryin’ to keep my sentence on track, oh yeah,
Tryin’ to keep my sentence on track.

CHORUS:
And I don’t give a damn about an Oxford comma,
Use it when I see fit.
Disambiguate when I have a list,
I don’t see why I should quit, poor boy,
I don’t see why I should quit.

When I was back in high school,
My teacher said “hey kid,
Write as you will, as long as it’s clear,
And write what must be writ, poor boy,
Write what must be writ.”

CHORUS

Now that I’m a writer,
And have written many words to share,
I’ve learned that my editor and I
Are the only ones who ever care, poor boy,
The only ones who ever care.

CHORUS:
So I don’t give a damn about an Oxford comma,
Drop it in like a bomb.
Gotta make sure that you know I know
That Ayn Rand is not my mom, poor boy,
Ayn Rand is not my mom.*
___
*This is a reference to a famous case of serial-comma omission, where the author dedicated his book "To my parents, Ayn Rand and God."
 
tldr


Rephrase in interest of spatial relation... the placement of the names after the title of ex-wives denotes identification of said ex-wives.

And I prefer serial periods... :lol:
 
Tricky Rogue said:
I loathe the Oxford comma. If that editor was halfway worth his salt, he would've figured out that he could've reordered that sentence.
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Indeed. The effectiveness of the sentence is the responsibility of the author.
 
Críostóir said:
Let's just say it's dually appointed, and leave it at that.



Not only that, I'm breathless with anticipation of finding out what the Princeton comma might be!
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I bet the Yale comma is the douchiest of the bunch.
 
I demand the oxford comma. Indeed I think it should be put places which don't even call for commas, just so we can appreciate, its, beauty.

Seriously, I do use it. I refuse to buy into the idea that I should re-order an entire sentence when the alternative is just to punctuate it correctly.

Críostóir, you gave me a bit of a chub with this thread. Though I must admit things went soft a bit with post number 10:
Shorter me: Yeah, French has exactly the same kind of stupid hard-and-fast rules that I'm trying to keep English from falling into.
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What's wrong with hard and fast? I like hard and fast.

How about it: you, me, and...say...a few of the Immortals of l'Académie française?
 
Tricky Rogue said:
I loathe the Oxford comma. If that editor was halfway worth his salt, he would've figured out that he could've reordered that sentence.
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MercuryJones said:
Indeed. The effectiveness of the sentence is the responsibility of the author.
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Actually it's not a lot better if you write it as "Kris Kristoffersson, Robert Duvall and two of his ex-wives." In fact even an Oxford comma doesn't save that one; it implies that the ex-wives are Duvall's. Reordering won't do it. If you want to fix it without an OC (heh) you must write something like "Kris Kristoffersson, Robert Duvall and two of Haggard's ex-wives."

bankside said:
Seriously, I do use it. I refuse to buy into the idea that I should re-order an entire sentence when the alternative is just to punctuate it correctly.
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This is the correct attitude!

bankside said:
Críostóir, you gave me a bit of a chub with this thread. Though I must admit things went soft a bit with post number 10:

What's wrong with hard and fast? I like hard and fast.
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I would just like to point out that "Rules" and "Fucking" are not the same thing; in fact are somewhat incompatible. :sex:

bankside said:
How about it: you, me, and...say...a few of the Immortals of l'Académie française?
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Sure! Only without the stupid old fuddy-duddies, OK?
 
Tricky Rogue said:
I loathe the Oxford comma. If that editor was halfway worth his salt, he would've figured out that he could've reordered that sentence.
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i loathe the people who dont use any punctuation whatsoever you never know where one sentence ends and the other begins i usually just pass right on over their posts without paying any attention to what they have to say that is a terrible shame really they went to such trouble to write it but i can't be bothered to go to the trouble to read it

seriously what is a little bit of punctuation between friends how hard it is to hit the comma key
 
gsdx said:
i loathe the people who dont use any punctuation whatsoever you never know where one sentence ends and the other begins i usually just pass right on over their posts without paying any attention to what they have to say that is a terrible shame really they went to such trouble to write it but i can't be bothered to go to the trouble to read it

seriously what is a little bit of punctuation between friends how hard it is to hit the comma key
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ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY DO IT ALL IN CAPS WHAT DO THEY THINK THIS IS ANCIENT ROME WHY DONT THEY LEAVE OUT ALL THE SPACES TOO I NEVER EVER READ POSTS LIKE THAT
 
Críostóir said:
ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY DO IT ALL IN CAPS WHAT DO THEY THINK THIS IS ANCIENT ROME WHY DONT THEY LEAVE OUT ALL THE SPACES TOO I NEVER EVER READ POSTS LIKE THAT
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I'm Not Sure Why, But I Find It More Annoying When People Capitalize The First Letter Of Every Word. I Find It Incredibly Difficult To Read.
 
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