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WikiLeaks Has Been Busy

MakeDigitalLove said:
That sad commentary here is that it is okay for people to lie and do wrong if you are a supporter of them, but it isn't when you are against them. People are willing to be in denial then accept some humility of being wrong.
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Bernie Sanders lies more than Hillary Clinton, according to Politifact.
 
Alnitak said:
Bernie Sanders lies more than Hillary Clinton, according to Politifact.
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If you want to play that game, then I'll play along.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hecking-2016-democratic-presidential-candida/

On statements that are pants on fire, mostly false, false and half-true
Hillary Clinton - 111/205 = 54.15%
Bernie Sanders - 50/103 = 48.54%

Removing half true statements into the equation does not make it different either
Hillary Clinton - 63/205 = 30.73%
Bernie Sanders - 30/103 = 29.13%

What now?
 
Julian89 said:
If you want to play that game, then I'll play along.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hecking-2016-democratic-presidential-candida/

On statements that are pants on fire, mostly false, false and half-true
Hillary Clinton - 111/205 = 54.15%
Bernie Sanders - 50/103 = 48.54%

Removing half true statements into the equation does not make it different either
Hillary Clinton - 63/205 = 30.73%
Bernie Sanders - 30/103 = 29.13%

What now?
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Interesting on how it has reversed since Hillary won the nomination before which it was Bernie telling the most lies.
 
TX-Beau said:
The sad commentary here is that SOME PEOPLE will jump on all kinds of trivial shit, fly off the handle with faux-outrage, have tantrums and fits, just so they can throw shit at Hillary, you want to be taken seriously, how about we talk about getting Universal healthcare, which candidate is most likely to get education costs under control, and how exactly we are going to deal with Syria.

Whining that the DNC didn't like Sanders is just bullshit.
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Trivial shit, faux outrage, tantrums, fits, what else? Rendering a major issue to many as unimportant rather than addressing them is really a good step towards party unity. smdh
 
Julian89 said:
Let me guess. The well-documented effort of the DNC trying to sabotage the Sanders campaign is just another of those vast right-wing conspiracy.
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You mean the well documented personal rants after the primary was already decided, which were never an actual plan or implemented in reality? Yeah, it's catastrophic...
 
Julian89 said:
Trivial shit, faux outrage, tantrums, fits, what else? Rendering a major issue to many as unimportant rather than addressing them is really a good step towards party unity. smdh
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It IS unimportant. The DNC wanted Hillary Clinton to be the nominee. Your purity test seems to be reserved only for the Democrats which is one of the biggest Achilles heels we have.

Guess what? I promise you the RNC didn't want Donnie either and one can only imagine the emails that were sent..but we will never see them..will we? ....and Donnie actually WON as did Hillary who actually got more votes ....

The Republicans do not hold their public servants to the same standards. This reminds me of 1999 when the Democrats and Republicans alike had the faux outrage about a fucking blow job and then one after the other of these moral purists who were ON RECORD for condemning adultery and lies were (GASP) found to be having affairs..and lying....

Imagine that...and we didn't even need WikiLeaks invading people's private conversations to tell us that...

I don't trust the "morally pure" people anyway.....
 
eastofeden said:
It IS unimportant. The DNC wanted Hillary Clinton to be the nominee. Your purity test seems to be reserved only for the Democrats which is one of the biggest Achilles heels we have.

Guess what? I promise you the RNC didn't want Donnie either and one can only imagine the emails that were sent..but we will never see them..will we? ....and Donnie actually WON as did Hillary who actually got more votes ....

The Republicans do not hold their public servants to the same standards. This reminds me of 1999 when the Democrats and Republicans alike had the faux outrage about a fucking blow job and then one after the other of these moral purists who were ON RECORD for condemning adultery and lies were (GASP) found to be having affairs..and lying....

Imagine that...and we didn't even need WikiLeaks invading people's private conversations to tell us that...

I don't trust the "morally pure" people anyway.....
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I promise you there is no way I will vote for Trump so I do not expect any standards, values, virtue, ascendancy, principles or whatever from him or anyone from the Republican National Committee.
 
eastofeden said:
It IS unimportant. The DNC wanted Hillary Clinton to be the nominee. Your purity test seems to be reserved only for the Democrats which is one of the biggest Achilles heels we have.

Guess what? I promise you the RNC didn't want Donnie either and one can only imagine the emails that were sent..but we will never see them..will we? ....and Donnie actually WON as did Hillary who actually got more votes ....

The Republicans do not hold their public servants to the same standards. This reminds me of 1999 when the Democrats and Republicans alike had the faux outrage about a fucking blow job and then one after the other of these moral purists who were ON RECORD for condemning adultery and lies were (GASP) found to be having affairs..and lying....

Imagine that...and we didn't even need WikiLeaks invading people's private conversations to tell us that...

I don't trust the "morally pure" people anyway.....
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All of this crap is just window dressing for hating on Hillary by people who can't be bothered to go find a real issue with her, and people who hate her just because.

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Julian89 said:
I promise you there is no way I will vote for Trump so I do not expect any standards, values, virtue, ascendancy, principles or whatever from him or anyone from the Republican National Committee.
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I don't believe you.
 
There are also lawsuits against the Trump campaign.

It is election season. Lawsuits are par for the course.
 
:rotflmao: the only places on Google I can find this are right wingnuts and their keyboards.
 
Still no dice, you'd think that if there was an actual "election fraud" lawsuit filed SOMEONE outside the echo chamber would have noticed.
 
Thynight said:
They have already been called on it. There is a lawsuit already for election fraud.
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Sorry, source or jurisdiction where the lawsuit was filed - or bullshit.

There are plenty of people saying (as one site did) that there is a lawsuit ON THE PRECIPICE of being filed, but I can't find any evidence of an actual lawsuit for "election fraud" anywhere at all.
 
TX-Beau said:
Sorry, source or jurisdiction where the lawsuit was filed - or bullshit.

There are plenty of people saying (as one site did) that there is a lawsuit ON THE PRECIPICE of being filed, but I can't find any evidence of an actual lawsuit for "election fraud" anywhere at all.
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And yet it will be added to the list of Clinton crimes.
Unfortunately fact is an inconvenient anchor.
 
Were any of the "tactics" expressed in the e-mails ever used during the Democratic primary? If not, then who cares what was speculated/discussed internally by the Democratic National Committee? Other than now proving what we already knew about the "open secret" that the Democratic party favored Clinton, a party stalwart, over Sanders, an Independent who chose to use the Democratic party system to further his presidential ambitions. So what? Welcome to the reality of party politics 101.

What were the rules in place for the Democratic primary when candidates declared their intentions to run for President in that primary? If they were of such concern to a particular candidate, why wait until voting began to start complaining about the process, the rules, etc.? Why then did you run as a Democrat given the fact you knew the rules before the voting began? This folks is how politics works. That's what turned me off to the Sanders campaign. I abhor a sore loser.

And now we are here. Another much ado about nothing "scandal" perpetuated by the media. All these talking head channels have lots and lots of of time to fill and ads to sell. They need drama. So they take a so what story and turn it into something that they can tout with their "Breaking News" crawls along the bottom of each channel.

So now let's get to the meat and potatoes of all of this nonsense, shall we? Who won the popular vote? By how much? Who won the most primary races? Who won the most pledged delegates? Did the DNC force voters to cast a vote a specific way?

I for one am more interested in the intelligence community's investigation of who is behind these leaks. That should be the more disturbing concern--that a foreign country is thought to be meddling in our country's politics.
 
And now we are here. Another much ado about nothing "scandal" perpetuated by the media.
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This sounds really silly considering the media is one of things people are upset about when it comes to these emails.
 
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