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Wikileaks set to reveal us ufo war in southern ocean.

I like to keep an open mind too.

I quite like the romanticising of a scenario that could pull humanity together. The idea of a hostile alien onslaught could be just what humans need to realise that at the end of the day, however different we are, we are all human at least.

The movie was Independence Day.
 
There have been some very much unsolved sightings regarding planes, whether civilian craft or military. A number of strange occurences happened with our astronauts. Most reports can be explaned, but there are a stubborn 10% that aren't simply misreadings of natural phenomena, swamp gas, planets, weather balloons and the like.

That's why I wanted to see what they had posted in the links.
I should have made this humor/satire.
I have been looking into what that 10% is. So far nothing.

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You can have 2 acres and a chicken and that's final!

Teach him how to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.
 
Proof? Because 10% sounds like an invented number to me.
I've heard 5% and 10% before (both sound like invented numbers) but, either way, that's significant. The number would probably be a lot higher if there weren't natural phenomena which can mimic a sighting. I've sometimes wondered if they might be humans from the future, but I haven't seen or heard any theory that it is possible to travel BACKWARD in time.

I do think contact would be relatively disastrous no matter how benevolent another intelligent race was.
I think contact might be a disaster, even if the aliens had NO malicious intentions whatsoever. Even with the most complete safeguards in quarantining the aliens (and we know that's EXACTLY what would happen - probably including vivisection to study them), I have no doubt that some pathogen they may be carrying, which may be based on something that isn't even DNA, could get out...

How old is the chicken?
What came first, the chicken or the egg?

ANSWER: The egg. (Cockroach eggs were around 300 million years ago, nearly countless millennia before chickens appeared. The question only asks about "the egg" - *not* about CHICKEN eggs.)
 
Hawking also says that although he believes in alien life he does not believe they have visited the earth.

Who is to say that WE are not the North American Indians?? :)

The other way around is more likely out of the two.

If intelligent life is common then it's probably common as well for them to survive for millions or even billions of years.

Our intelligent life has just been around for thousands of years so we are still just in the first step of many possible ones.

If a alien species has the technology to come visit us then just that is a proof that they have developed much further than we have because of the great distance between us.
 
Hawking says it's near to impossible for government(s) to keep something like this a secret. He kinda mocked them and said that if this was the case then they are doing a better job at it than anything else they do :)

I think it's extremely unlikely that it's future humans because I think it's very unlikely that it is possible to travel back in time. Traveling to the future on the other hand is a scientific fact (it's just a matter of how much we can speed it up).
 
I like to keep an open mind too.

I quite like the romanticising of a scenario that could pull humanity together. The idea of a hostile alien onslaught could be just what humans need to realise that at the end of the day, however different we are, we are all human at least.

I think virtually any hostile alien onslaught from an alien capable enough to come here from elsewhere would be completely onesided, unfortunately. I'm always bemused by the movie idea of aliens having fighters and actually "coming down to fight." If for whatever reason they wanted us gone couldn't they just pop flu and rabies into a blender or something? ;) Or just irradiate us. Something far more efficient.
 
Yes if they were developed enough to travel here close to the speed of light (they probably have to because of the great distances between us) then there is no way they would do all that simply to do some old-school fighting.

Virus attack would make sense. Also a nuclear type of explosion at multiple locations in the atmosphere would ruin all of our computer chips and electric grids... pretty much putting us back in the stone age.

They also might have discovered a wave type of weapon which simply knocks us all out without damaging the environment.
 
Talking about Assange, he is running for the Australian election on 14 September 2013.
Would be interesting if he won and is a part of the Australian government.
 
Do you think Telstra is a cover name for the alien invasion. Clever to use the name of Australia's telecomm company.
 
Do you think Telstra is a cover name for the alien invasion. Clever to use the name of Australia's telecomm company.

They should come to JUB and demand JUB owners not to use the telephone company name. :)
 
If they come to the USA will the republicans try to deport them? Will one of their offspring be an anchor baby?

Another one..... if they talk conservatism, are physically attractive and love their laser blasters, republicans will try to get them elected to office. Think McCain, Romney & Arnold.

Or did they already.....? :badgrin:
 
As for UFO's, as I often say, I find it very curious that aliens clever and advanced enough to build spaceships and travel across the stars to Earth, would then turn out to be so stupid and brainless to spend over 60 years doing nothing but flying around in our sky.

It's alien grad students on government grants doing research. As long as they can finagle more grant money, why should they leave?

I quite like the romanticising of a scenario that could pull humanity together. The idea of a hostile alien onslaught could be just what humans need to realise that at the end of the day, however different we are, we are all human at least.

All human, and all desperately clinging together under a global government to which absolute power over everything is granted, for the sake of "global security".

Teach him how to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.

He teaches his village to fish, and the fish go extinct.

I think virtually any hostile alien onslaught from an alien capable enough to come here from elsewhere would be completely onesided, unfortunately. I'm always bemused by the movie idea of aliens having fighters and actually "coming down to fight." If for whatever reason they wanted us gone couldn't they just pop flu and rabies into a blender or something? ;) Or just irradiate us. Something far more efficient.

Just wipe our minds so we know nothing but what they tell us, and sterilize us so their new work force dies off in the task of transforming the world to their liking.
 
It is a scientific possibility that we are all martians.

It once was a earth like planet possibly with life forms. An asteroid hitting it could have transferred bacteria from there to earth and be the first step to life on our planet.
 
If a alien species has the technology to come visit us then just that is a proof that they have developed much further than we have because of the great distance between us.
I believe that one postulate of string theory is that one tiny particle can instantaneously affect another particle elsewhere in the Universe?? If an advanced civilization has harnessed that level of physics in a way that massive objects (such as spacecraft and inhabitants) can travel elsewhere instantaneously in effect, the absolute distances may no longer have any consequence.

They also might have discovered a wave type of weapon which simply knocks us all out without damaging the environment.
Almost sounds like the Neutron Bomb, which I believe was actually DEVELOPED in the 1970's. I never, EVER hear anything about that weapon anymore. What happened to it? (The complete disappearance of that weapon has actually been one of the most surprising and puzzling things I've been aware of in my lifetime, because humans generally LOVE to have the most lethal weapons possible.)
 
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