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Will 3 Wisc. GOP Senators Fold to Defeat Walkers Koch-Backed Power Grab?

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Every day we wake up to something new in WI. This is believable because of what Walker is doing is wrong, wrong, wrong!!

http://www.alternet.org/newsandview...t_walker's_koch-backed_power_grab/#paragraph3

Will 3 Wisc. GOP Senators Fold to Defeat Walkers Koch-Backed Power Grab?

David Koch's man on the Wall Street Journal editorial board is worried -- worried that three of Wisconsin's Republican state senators might just defect to the other side in Republican Gov. Scott Walker's strong-arm attempt to rob state employees of their collective bargaining rights. And that would mean a whole lot of Koch dollars spent for naught in the three-week-long standoff at the state capitol building in Madison.

On the Wall Street Journal's Political Diary blog, Stephen Moore frets that "GOP Gov. Scott Walker can afford to lose no more than two Republican senators on this pivotal vote," and one, Sen. Dale Schultz failed to show up for a Republican "unity press conference" on Wednesday. And Moore sites more ominous signs:

[A] new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll showing that 62% of respondents oppose curtailing collective-bargaining rights for public-sector workers over health care, pensions or other benefits suggests that the GOP position may be losing some support among independent voters. Meanwhile, the unions have turned up the heat by launching recall efforts against at least five of the GOP senators. Conservative groups have initiated recalls against five of the missing 14 Democratic senators.
 
So.

How much do the Koch's have to pay each lawmaker to get them to vote en bloc?
 
Wait! :D

Allow me to do my impression of a "conservative."

*clears throat*

I didn't hear about this on Fox News, so this is obviously some liberal bullshit.

*takes a bow*

So what do you think?

Huh, huh?

Was that pretty good? :gogirl:






Wisconsin Republicans with a conscious, who would've thunk it?
:p








:badgrin:
 
Wait! :D

Allow me to do my impression of a "conservative."

*clears throat*

I didn't hear about this on Fox News, so this is obviously some liberal bullshit.

*takes a bow*

So what do you think?

Huh, huh?

Was that pretty good? :gogirl:






Wisconsin Republicans with a conscious, who would've thunk it?
:p








:badgrin:

got it covered!..|
 
The Wall Street Journal is now Fox nooz since Murdoch bought it.

And if someone at the Journal is worried.....

Uh oh.
 
should Current Events and Politics be renamed to Current Events and Scott Walker? there's like a hundred threads/day posted about him.

the people seem to be against the bill, I'd think that it would behoove politicians to vote against it.

No, it should be renamed Current Events, Scott Walker, and the Koch Brothers.

The far-left has always needed boogeymen in order to fearmonger.
 
No, it should be renamed Current Events, Scott Walker, and the Koch Brothers.

The far-left has always needed boogeymen in order to fearmonger.

you mean like the right does to Obama and they did to Clinton?

Jealous the other guys are playing with your toys?;)
 
No, it should be renamed Current Events, Scott Walker, and the Koch Brothers.

The far-left has always needed boogeymen in order to fearmonger.

I'm just going to go ahead and publicly declare it.

You Sir are nothing more than an Internet Troll. ..|

I'll risk my being asked to resign as a volunteer moderator of this website/forum, to call you out out on your comments here.

(!)

How DARE you play both the "boogeymen," and "fearmonger" card in an extremely feeble attempt to defend you're position/avatar here.

You provided no links, no proof...hell you didn't even present your comments as YOUR OWN! :grrr:

Just a bunch of back-water bullshit.

Ooooh...

laikaNYC said:
The far-left

laikaNYC said:
needed boogeymen

laikaNYC said:
in order to fearmonger.

Get a grip Becky! ..|

The so called "conservatives," the "right-wingers," the "neo-cons," the "Rethuglicans," the "Corporate Whores," the entire ideology that you so freely embrace but seem incapable of defending beyond "sound bites," "Ad hominems", and "Non-Sequiturs" are the VERY instruments of what I see as tearing our country down, and apart.

My late Grandpa use to say, "If you don't stand for something, then you'll fall for anything."

I've yet to find anything of value for Americans as a whole that the Republican Party stands for.

And now you're attempting to paint anyone who doesn't agree with the idealogy that you've embraced as being "fear-mongers?"

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlofjKEkSrA[/ame]

Nearly 3,000 Americans were murdered on Tuesday Morning September 11, 2001.

Three of the people who went down with the rubble of both World Trade Center 1, and World Trade Center 2 were friends of mine.

AMERICANS!

Christians, Gays, Agnostics, Muslims, Single-Mothers/Fathers, Sons / Daughters, Democrats/Republicans/Libertarians/Independents, Migrants, Immigrants, and so on.





At the very least the New York city skyline was forever altered.

Oh, but it was the "fear-mongers" or your conservative ideology that sent an additional 4,000 Americans to their deaths after "our president" George W. Bush stood in front of a banner off the coast of Southern California on the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln that said "Mission Accomplished" once American forces "Liberated Baghdad."

Where was the Taliban?

Where was al Qaeda?

Where was bin Laden?

For that matter where were the Weapons of Mass Destruction or the connection between Saddam Hussein and 9/11? :confused:

Can you provide a link or a source where "the left" has ever needed a 'boogeyman" or where they've "fear mongered?"



Wasn't that a great day in American History?

No Sir. [-X

I'm sorry which ideology/political party embraces "fear-mongering?"

I will no longer sit here and read your right-wing ideological bullshit, read your divisive pablum, because that's all that you've had to offer here. That's the only thing that you share when you post.

The same kind of mindless crap that anyone of us can get from any talking head, blogger, and pundit regardless of where they're sourced from.
I think that the internet and it's definitions are really too kind.

While your party rails on against "socialism," "communism," "unions," and against "Gays," "abortion," and "Mexican Immigrants," and "Muslims," let me go ahead and use some terms that the "far-left" is too afraid to use for fear of not sounding "politically correct."

PC or not, they're the truth, and I think that the only reason that we don't hear them as a counterpoint is because there's a desire within our country amongst "progressives" to keep us united as opposed to divided on any given cause; The GOP:

These are the words that I'd use to describe Republican leadership March 2011:

(Links to their meanings)Where's this mythological "Liberal Media" that the conservatives are always crying about?

So you got me!

An Angry Response. ..|

Now what are you going to do about it? :p

As a Moderator of this Forum I've stood up for you, but I'm afraid I've reached the end of my line. :cool:

And now you're calling this Forum, and those who participate in it as having a need for "boogeymen in order to fearmonger."
In case you haven't gotten the memo, Denial isn't a river a Egypt. [-X
 
Oh wow, Centexfarmer - now that's a call out!

It's cool if I have a crush on you now, right?
:kiss:
 
No, it should be renamed Current Events, Scott Walker, and the Koch Brothers.

The far-left has always needed boogeymen in order to fearmonger.

You are absolutely right.

When you dont have facts on your side, start scaring your base.
 
Centex.

I feel all tingly.

And I'm not sure if is Laika being called to account or the new avatar.

Either way.

I'm hard.
 
Laika, I agree with my fellow mod as it relates to the shallowness of your writings. I haven't seen too many posts from you that include a link to a cogent thoughtfully written article. Your posts usually consist of what we like to refer to as the "turd in the punchbowl." We like to see more than that here in CE&P.

Before you do what I know you will and castigate him as being a liberal in his bias, let me say that I can attest to his having spoken out for you in mod towers when you were being treated unfairly. He is an eminently fair person who treats all members with respect no matter what their position and someone I am proud to call a friend.

So, if you want to factually refute any of what he's said with citations from thoughtfully written arguments, I think we'd all welcome that. If it's going to be another turd in the punchbowl, I think we've seen enough of those from you.
 
When you dont have facts on your side, start scaring your base.

Thank you, I'm surprised that we agree on something.

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If I may use an updated version of a now-famous quote but regarding Scott Walker: if he's lost Forbes Magazine, he's lost the country.

Please read this column from Forbes, known primarily for financial matters and generally regarded as conservative.

http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/03/04/gov-scott-walker-has-lost-the-war/

Brief synopsis: Scott Walker has not only lost Wisconsin in the court of public opinion, but has energized workers and Unions. The last three weeks of Mr. Walker's intransigence has been as significant to American workers as any event of the last seven (or so) decades.
 
I saw this story in an email so I went to WSJ to see. I found this.
Being that this is the WSJ, who is to say that the story is fake and they are reporting this so the Dems will come back to vote and then the 3 GOOPs will change back to walkers side.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...vatives+in+Wisconsin+are+getting+nervous+that

+three+Republican+state+senat

* MARCH 4, 2011, 2:12 P.M. ET

The Wisconsin Wobblies
Conservatives in Wisconsin are getting nervous that three Republican state senators may defect on the collective-bargaining reform vote.

By STEPHEN MOORE

Conservatives in Wisconsin are getting nervous that three Republican state senators may defect on the collective-bargaining reform vote. It's still anyone's guess as

to when that vote will take place because Democrats remain in exile to prevent the necessary quorum. But Republicans in the Senate hold a 19-14 majority, so GOP

Gov. Scott Walker can afford to lose no more than two Republican senators on this pivotal vote.

Sorry, that GOOP must be a Freudian slip?
 
either.

I'm not claiming their editorial content is unbiased, but WE seemed to be suggesting that the WSJ has a pattern of publishing false stories and I can't think of any.

http://oklahomacitizen.org/2010/09/30/wsj-report-about-mcdonalds-dropping-health-coverage-false

WSJ report about McDonald's dropping health coverage is false

September 30, 2010 - 12:09 pm by Lawrence Roth

Imagine the horror of realizing that McDonald's will drop 30,000 employees from health care coverage because of the new healh care laws that conservatives like to call ObamaCare.

Where did ObamaCare go wrong? Isn't it suppose to increase health coverage for Americans?

Well don't panic.

The Wall Street Journal posted an article that is completely false and misleading.

that was in an effort to help republicans fight Healthcare reform.

With its latest editorial calling for more nuclear weapons and more weapons spending, the Wall Street Journal has gone over a journalistic cliff. The serious factual errors in its Jan. 5 screed, "A False Nuclear Start," raise serious questions about the newspaper's credibility and integrity.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/01/06/a_false_nuclear_alarm

that was during the start treaty ratification process, I believe, once again in support of a non factual republican position.

The Wall Street Journal’s page-one story yesteday on the union battle in Wisconsin erred on a few points, all of which skew coverage against the union side.

First the paper misleads readers by implying that Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker campaigned on taking away collective bargaining rights from government workers

http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/wsj_slips_up_on_a_union_story.php

that is a false story to support the republican union busting.

Those are just from the last few months. I could go back further and find more if you like...
 
Thanks BP, my post about "what if" meant that if you look at who owns the WSJ and their record of spinning for the GOP, that article could very well be false for the reason I mentioned.
You come up with these answers awfully fast. I'm impressed!
 
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