Will a republican civil war benefit us on the left?

[cityboy-stl]

^^ But you haven't once explained what it is about Trump that you support?

 

[Dominus]

Speak this while looking in a mirror.

Because you and similar ilk cannot understand why half the country would support such a flawed man speaks to your ignorance of how repulsive what the left and radical left have to offer truly is.

I keep saying it. If you can't figure why people support the man, examine the alternative. It's even more unacceptable.

But you can't see it, so those who don't agree with you must be fools. BLIND to your own bias.

Bolded. But my entire point is trump supporters aren't fools. You replying to someone else?

 

[spooger]

Bolded. But my entire point is trump supporters aren't fools. You replying to someone else?

Yes. See the quote above my comment. gsdx

 

[spooger]

^^ But you haven't once explained what it is about Trump that you support?

I wish JUB would do something so that IGNORE actually IGNORED. Instead, it puts up a big banner saying in effect, HEY LOOK, YOU ARE IGNORING SO-AND-SO AND THEY POSTED A MESSAGE!!!!! CLICK HERE OR HERE OR HERE TO SEE IT AND TAKE THEM OFF IGNORE!!!!!! If ignore actually worked like blocking on Facebook and made it appear that certain people didn't even exist, it would solve a ton of problems.

Took me off of your ignore list? Couldn't resist

I support his economic policies which includes such things as reducing obstructionist government overregulation
I support America first policy - I am not a globalist
I support removing US from flawed treaties: NAFTA, Paris Accord, Obama's not-a-treaty Iran agreement
I support limiting illegal immigration - a wall if that's the only way to stop a flood if illegal immigrants
I support making NATO allies pay what they agreed to instead of the US being expected to support the worlds expense
I support his MidEast policies - moving the embassy, Arab treaties with Israel, US support of Israel
I support his confrontation of uber liberal, dishonest media - yes, I will include Fox although not as a liberal medium
I support his confrontation of uber liberal social media - I never used FB, Twitter, etc. Saw them early on for what they have become
I support his confrontation of far left politicians and policy
I support declaring Antifa and BLM as criminal organizations. Black lives DO matter. All lives matter. The organizations are despicable
I support a pro life policy and defunding federal payment of abortion services
I support his energy friendly policies

I do not support his crass comportment
I do not support nepotism to the degree he has engaged, but whom else can he trust?

His undesirable personality unfortunately is the same as most politicians, just more extreme. I don't find Pelosi, Schumer, Shift, Nadler, ... the list is long ... any more desirable than Trump

This is a short list. Just a start.
You list his negatives. I'll probably agree with most, and still reject the left. I find the left THAT undesirable.

 

[Dominus]

Yes. See the quote above my comment. gsdx

Oh, my mistake. I started working at 8am and I just got home at 1:30am. Hence, I hate it when people say landlord is not a job.

 

[gsdx]

Even the most educated can be completely ignorant of what is going on right in front of their eyes.

Speak this while looking in a mirror.

As you have told me a number of times before. If you're going to continue baiting me, at least try to come up with some new material. Your shtick is way too old.

 

[Sausy]

What to Spooger is not liberal-left? He thinks Joe Biden is a fiery radical? And Schumer and Pelosi, liberal but NOT hard left in their governing style. And Adam Schiff is a bad guy? No, that's Devin Nunes, Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz and their fellow Republican nincompoops .

 

[spooger]

As you have told me a number of times before.

Patiently waiting for it to sink in.

A man saw a young boy pulling a wagon of puppies and asked, " Little boy, what do you have there?"
Boy said, " A wagon full of Democrats."
The man laughed and walked on.

Days later the man saw the boy again and asked, "Little boy, what do you have there?"
The boy said, "A wagon full of Republicans."

The man said," But last time I saw you, you said it was a wagon load of Democrats!"
The boy answered,"Yes, but now their eyes are open"

Maybe your puppy eyes will be opened some day.

 

[NotHardUp1]

If Republicans have their eyes opened, please explain all the election denial and the total lack of evidence.

Explain how the GOP judges and courts found zero evidence of election fraud alleged in lawsuits, earning them the wrath of the president and his stooges.

Explain how high ranking US Senators in the GOP are so awakened that they have refused to acknowledge the simple reality of the election, remaining silent and complicit in the fraudulent and hysterical claims by the president that the election was stolen and fake.

Explain how men who have been elected to the highest representative offices in the legislative branch of the government could make a political game of the election, fostering attacks on the actual votes of the states, and how Congressmen could lend their names to that sham and undermine the very Constitution they swore to uphold, all in the name of GOP partisanship?

Suggesting being woke is a GOP attribute intentionally ignores the current behavior of the highest ranking Republicans in the nation.

Defend GOP policies all you like, but you cannot run from the reality of what has happened since the election and the damage it does to any alleged set of principles previously upheld by the Grand Old Party. It's a bit like claiming your robes were pure white, but yeah, back before you jumped in to the latrine.

 

[rareboy]

If Republicans have their eyes opened, please explain all the election denial and the total lack of evidence.

Explain how the GOP judges and courts found zero evidence of election fraud alleged in lawsuits, earning them the wrath of the president and his stooges.

Explain how high ranking US Senators in the GOP are so awakened that they have refused to acknowledge the simple reality of the election, remaining silent and complicit in the fraudulent and hysterical claims by the president that the election was stolen and fake.

Explain how men who have been elected to the highest representative offices in the legislative branch of the government could make a political game of the election, fostering attacks on the actual votes of the states, and how Congressmen could lend their names to that sham and undermine the very Constitution they swore to uphold, all in the name of GOP partisanship?

Suggesting being woke is a GOP attribute intentionally ignores the current behavior of the highest ranking Republicans in the nation.

Defend GOP policies all you like, but you cannot run from the reality of what has happened since the election and the damage it does to any alleged set of principles previously upheld by the Grand Old Party. It's a bit like claiming your robes were pure white, but yeah, back before you jumped in to the latrine.

Quoted for truth.

Most Republicans are now slaves to a cult....they will believe anything that a known charlatan and pathological liar tells them and then swear it is the truth.

Crazy.

 

[spooger]

Quoted for truth.

Most Republicans are now slaves to a cult....they will believe anything that a known charlatan and pathological liar tells them and then swear it is the truth.

Crazy.

No. We oppose the cult of the left.

Everything is identity politics - wokeness - drink the coolaid- Trump bad, conservatism evil - dishonest media is gospel - riots looting and burning is "peaceful protest" - what a crock of BS

Offer something other than cultural destruction if you want acceptance - but it's obvious that doesn't matter.

 

[cityboy-stl]

No. We oppose the cult of the left.

Everything is identity politics - wokeness - drink the coolaid- Trump bad, conservatism evil - dishonest media is gospel - riots looting and burning is "peaceful protest" - what a crock of BS

Offer something other than cultural destruction if you want acceptance - but it's obvious that doesn't matter.

Offer something other than hate, bigoty, racism, white supremacy and White Nationalism, Fascist Nazism, homophobia, misogny, anti-semitism, xenophobia, calculated lies and disinformation, voter suppression, conspiracy frauds, rejection of reality, denial of science, attacks on democracy, authoritarianism and plutotocracy, isolationism, incompetant grifter leadership - if you want acceptance - but it's obvious those are the things the [STRIKE]republican[/STRIKE] Fascist Party that you believe in - stands for.

 

[NotHardUp1]

No. We oppose the cult of the left.

Everything is identity politics - wokeness - drink the coolaid- Trump bad, conservatism evil - dishonest media is gospel - riots looting and burning is "peaceful protest" - what a crock of BS

Offer something other than cultural destruction if you want acceptance - but it's obvious that doesn't matter.

There is indeed a cult of the right, and of the left.

Neither is doing the country any favors.

But you claim "Trump bad" is a false claim. There is nothing but solid evidence from Day One that Trump is indeed bad, which is both a legitimate civil complaint and media reporting.

He has abandoned our loyal military allies on the fields of battle, allies who served at great peril, against their fellow countrymen, for the US.

He has abused the powers of his high office to manipulate illegally the foreign aid legally and properly authorized by Congress, and in so doing, grossly violated the clear separation of powers principle in the US Constitution, appropriating the power of the purse that the executive branch is not given.

He has insulted the honorable service of recognized military, decorated heroes, by disparaging their sacrifices, including the time they served in prisoner of war camps.

He has mocked women as the president in such a way as to demean women as a class of people.

He has mocked handicapped individuals as the president, attempting to bully the physically deformed or hindered as if he were a 3rd grader.

He has used the office of the United States Attorney General to obstruct justice, to control legal and lawful prosecutions of crimes he committed as president as well as those of his appointees.

He has solicited foreign aid in political matters, a violation of federal law.

He has forsaken the U.S. intelligence corps, fawning over a known enemy of the United States, the Russian president, Mr. Putin.

He has openly made war on the governors and mayors of the United States he was sworn to defend and protect, openly called for insurrections against the same, and openly called for the courts to violate the elections in order to selectively change the ballots in states where he lost.

He has refused to take questions from the press or even host press conferences because his actions were so indefensible and the conferences inevitably revealed how insipid his "policies" or defensive statements were. He only began having conferences again, after years of hiding, when he needed to do damage control when the public saw he was failing in doing anything about the pandemic beyond whining CHI---NA every other bleat, rather than actually leading in a time of crisis.

Trump bad.

I see no lie.

 

[gsdx]

There is nothing but solid evidence from Day One that Trump is indeed bad, which is both a legitimate civil complaint and media reporting.

And for decades before 'Day One'. His evilness and con games are well-documented. His business failures are well-documented. His lawsuits, as both plaintiff and defendant, are well-documented. The businesses he forced into bankruptcy because he refused to pay them for their services, are well-documented. His education is well-documented but he refuses to allow anyone to share his grades with the public and threatens to sue anyone that does.

People knew what kind of liar and cheat and con man he was for many years before he became president, and he has been proving it every day since Day One. Anyone who supports him and gives him their money deserve what he does to them.

He is finally learning the meaning of 'No'.

 

[cityboy-stl]

No. We oppose the cult of the left.

Everything is identity politics - wokeness - drink the coolaid- Trump bad, conservatism evil - dishonest media is gospel - riots looting and burning is "peaceful protest" - what a crock of BS

Offer something other than cultural destruction if you want acceptance - but it's obvious that doesn't matter.

"Cultural destruction"

By the way, I forgot to thank you for finally admiting it all about hate for "the other". Hate for anyone different; hate for those whom you therefore deem unacceptable to live this society. Thank for confirming that when we say "the bottom line is you support Trump because he hates [Text: Removed]", we are right.

 

[ClubLevelVegan]

Quoted for truth.

Most Republicans are now slaves to a cult....they will believe anything that a known charlatan and pathological liar tells them and then swear it is the truth.

Crazy.

I mean to be fair, a lot of Liberals are the very same way.

 

[ClubLevelVegan]

Even the most educated can be completely ignorant of what is going on right in front of their eyes.

Yep. Education and ignorance are completely different things. Even when someone is educated it doesn’t mean they are actually smart or utilize that education.

 

[spooger]

No. We oppose the cult of the left.

Everything is identity politics - wokeness - drink the coolaid- Trump bad, conservatism evil - dishonest media is gospel - riots looting and burning is "peaceful protest" - what a crock of BS

Offer something other than cultural destruction if you want acceptance - but it's obvious that doesn't matter.

"Cultural destruction"

By the way, I forgot to thank you for finally admiting it all about hate for "the other". Hate for anyone different; hate for those whom you therefore deem unacceptable to live this society. Thank for confirming that when we say "the bottom line is you support Trump because he hates [Text: Removed]", we are right.

Yes. I oppose the cult of the left - and its efforts at cultural destruction.

But I defy you to show one time I have used the words " I hate" in any of my arguments.

"Hate for anyone different; hate for those whom you therefore deem unacceptable to live this society." are YOUR WORDS - never came from me. You cannot transfer your own agenda onto me by inventing words I never used. You remind me of Adam Schiff inventing Trumps phone conversation at the impeachment hearings - [Text: Removed].

 

[cityboy-stl]

Yes. I oppose the cult of the left - and its efforts at cultural destruction.

But I defy you to show one time I have used the words " I hate" in any of my arguments.

"Hate for anyone different; hate for those whom you therefore deem unacceptable to live this society." are YOUR WORDS - never came from me. You cannot transfer your own agenda onto me by inventing words I never used. You remind me of Adam Schiff inventing Trumps phone conversation at the impeachment hearings - [Text: Removed].

Denial is the worst form of self deception. Claiming "cultural destruction" is hate pure and simple.

 

[spooger]

Denial is the worst form of self deception.

More words for you to ponder about yourself - don't you have ANY mirrors in your house?