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Will & Grace [merged]
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jensu846
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Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
its a very funny show. jack is a very stereotypical gay 20's or early 30'guy. its not all that gay tho. you should look into "queer as folk" that might be more what you're looking for.
its a very funny show. jack is a very stereotypical gay 20's or early 30'guy. its not all that gay tho. you should look into "queer as folk" that might be more what you're looking for.
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Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
At the time the show came out it was an awesome show, and dared to do somethin no other shows did. But it did restrict the amount of gayness in it. But it was still good. Nowadays its prolly not so impressive its still awesome. And yes, the best thing about it was Jack & Karen.
At the time the show came out it was an awesome show, and dared to do somethin no other shows did. But it did restrict the amount of gayness in it. But it was still good. Nowadays its prolly not so impressive its still awesome. And yes, the best thing about it was Jack & Karen.
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Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
Will and Grace was a "gay show for straight women."
All the gay men were either effeminate or masculine yet non-threatening. Nobody had sex, hardly anyone did anything "gay" other than make a few jokes about Cher or "that thing in my drawer."
If you want a good gay show, you're kinda out of luck. There isn't much... Melrose PLace had a gay character who DID have boyfriends but all he did was hug them. There was a show called "Oh Grow Up" that lasted half a season in the 90s with a gay character who was cute and sexually active, although all you ever really saw was him coming down stairs with his trick from the night before.
You'll have to go to shows like Noah's Ark or Dante's Cove for anything aimed at a gay audience and even those shows aren't THAT great... just good.
Will and Grace was a "gay show for straight women."
All the gay men were either effeminate or masculine yet non-threatening. Nobody had sex, hardly anyone did anything "gay" other than make a few jokes about Cher or "that thing in my drawer."
If you want a good gay show, you're kinda out of luck. There isn't much... Melrose PLace had a gay character who DID have boyfriends but all he did was hug them. There was a show called "Oh Grow Up" that lasted half a season in the 90s with a gay character who was cute and sexually active, although all you ever really saw was him coming down stairs with his trick from the night before.
You'll have to go to shows like Noah's Ark or Dante's Cove for anything aimed at a gay audience and even those shows aren't THAT great... just good.
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Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
Armistead Maupin's "Tales of the city" was a series based on the novels by Armistead Maupin and contained many gay scenes involving the character Michael Tolliver. Although the show wasn't entirely centred around this character, it was fun to watch anyway just for the fact that there was a gay man in it who had sex.
Will and Grace is a situation comedy and the fact that a few characters were gay seemed like an irrelevance at times. That's what made the show so accessible to millions. The watered down version of what a gay person is if you like. I can remember there being a reference in the series to the fact that America doesn't like to think of the main character Will as a sexual being. Sad but true.
Armistead Maupin's "Tales of the city" was a series based on the novels by Armistead Maupin and contained many gay scenes involving the character Michael Tolliver. Although the show wasn't entirely centred around this character, it was fun to watch anyway just for the fact that there was a gay man in it who had sex.
Will and Grace is a situation comedy and the fact that a few characters were gay seemed like an irrelevance at times. That's what made the show so accessible to millions. The watered down version of what a gay person is if you like. I can remember there being a reference in the series to the fact that America doesn't like to think of the main character Will as a sexual being. Sad but true.
HPDeskjet
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Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
I have always found Will & Grace to be a gay negative show. Stereotypical bollocks for straight people who have an amusing gay friend and can therefore 'engage' with the characters. The fact that you never really see any true afffection between men on the show says more about American television companies attitudes towards homosexuality than the show itself.
In the beginning I found that the series had potential. Unfortunately, the network on which it was shown turned it into a, yet again, missed opportunity.
And will Sean Hayes ever come out of the closet? No, not according to his Hollywood career plan. Admit openly to being gay? Now that would never do in Hollywood/ TV-land would it? That says it all.
I have always found Will & Grace to be a gay negative show. Stereotypical bollocks for straight people who have an amusing gay friend and can therefore 'engage' with the characters. The fact that you never really see any true afffection between men on the show says more about American television companies attitudes towards homosexuality than the show itself.
In the beginning I found that the series had potential. Unfortunately, the network on which it was shown turned it into a, yet again, missed opportunity.
And will Sean Hayes ever come out of the closet? No, not according to his Hollywood career plan. Admit openly to being gay? Now that would never do in Hollywood/ TV-land would it? That says it all.
LarsVenice
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Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
^He's pretty gay as Billy in Billy's Hollywood Screen Kiss. Elton John used to pretend that he was straight, even though everyone had seen him at all the gay discos in L.A., where he was pretty much ignored. That's why he moved to Atlanta - no one in L.A. cared.
I like Will and Grace when it was on, but I wouldn't watch reruns. I bought two seasons of Dante's Cove, but it's not that great either.
^He's pretty gay as Billy in Billy's Hollywood Screen Kiss. Elton John used to pretend that he was straight, even though everyone had seen him at all the gay discos in L.A., where he was pretty much ignored. That's why he moved to Atlanta - no one in L.A. cared.
I like Will and Grace when it was on, but I wouldn't watch reruns. I bought two seasons of Dante's Cove, but it's not that great either.
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Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
I always thoroughly enjoyed it, tho I confess I tuned in regularly mostly in hopes of seeing Megan Mullaly as Karen Walker....
I always thoroughly enjoyed it, tho I confess I tuned in regularly mostly in hopes of seeing Megan Mullaly as Karen Walker....
Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
"Will and Grace" is the modern day version of "Amos and Andy". Probably the most offensive series I've ever seen. Can you imagine a show that featured an African-American eating watermelon and chasing white women, or a show featuring a Jewish character obsessed with money? It would never be tolerated. But a show featuring every gay stereotype under the sun , embodied in one walking cliche (Jack) is allowed to flourish. Disgusting.
"Will and Grace" is the modern day version of "Amos and Andy". Probably the most offensive series I've ever seen. Can you imagine a show that featured an African-American eating watermelon and chasing white women, or a show featuring a Jewish character obsessed with money? It would never be tolerated. But a show featuring every gay stereotype under the sun , embodied in one walking cliche (Jack) is allowed to flourish. Disgusting.
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Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
I always thought the show made fun of the stereotypes rather than enforcing them... I guess it depends on how you look at it.
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I always thought the show made fun of the stereotypes rather than enforcing them... I guess it depends on how you look at it.
Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
...Tinseltown was alright...
Rick and Steve is pretty awesome, albeit an animated comedy and not a serious acted drama...
...Tinseltown was alright...
Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
Which is to say that men like Jack don't exist?
Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
I LOVE Will & Grace. I never watched it when it was prime time. I started watching the reruns and became addicted. I've seen the whole series in reruns twice and am about 1/2 way through the 3rd time. First season wasn't the best but it got better. I didn't watch it initially b/c it had gay characters. I just was checking it out and found the humor very much to my liking. Jack and Karen are hilarious. Karen is my favorite. As far as how gay or not gay the show is has been irrelevant to me. I think the show is funny and that's why I keep watching it. It always puts a smile on my face.
I LOVE Will & Grace. I never watched it when it was prime time. I started watching the reruns and became addicted. I've seen the whole series in reruns twice and am about 1/2 way through the 3rd time. First season wasn't the best but it got better. I didn't watch it initially b/c it had gay characters. I just was checking it out and found the humor very much to my liking. Jack and Karen are hilarious. Karen is my favorite. As far as how gay or not gay the show is has been irrelevant to me. I think the show is funny and that's why I keep watching it. It always puts a smile on my face.
Re: Is there anything gay about "will and Grace"??
Yes, not all gay men are like Jack. I doubt half of the gay men in the world are like Jack. But Jack is the representation of some gay men. By the end of the show, you got a few different types of gay men. Will is a bit more reserved and professional than Jack. Will's husband is a tough cop.
The way I see it, the show made fun of a bunch of stereotypes, represented some characters true to those stereotyped behaviors and represented some characters that weren't.
I just think it's dangerous to look at a character like Jack and say "representations of people like Jack shouldn't exist" because somewhere, there is a gay man like Jack and he should be happy with being who he is and seeing someone like him on TV.
Sort of. My point was that it's very easy to start viewing these stereotypes as completely untrue and hateful when there are in fact gay men who are just like Jack and there's nothing wrong with that.
Yes, not all gay men are like Jack. I doubt half of the gay men in the world are like Jack. But Jack is the representation of some gay men. By the end of the show, you got a few different types of gay men. Will is a bit more reserved and professional than Jack. Will's husband is a tough cop.
The way I see it, the show made fun of a bunch of stereotypes, represented some characters true to those stereotyped behaviors and represented some characters that weren't.
I just think it's dangerous to look at a character like Jack and say "representations of people like Jack shouldn't exist" because somewhere, there is a gay man like Jack and he should be happy with being who he is and seeing someone like him on TV.
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Will and Grace generation: Soliders
In reading the write-up about this Sunday's "60 Minutes" episode on an out gay soldier, I couldn't help but notice the comment about how this generation of "Will and Grace" soldiers don't care about gay comrades.
I dunno. I have a lot of criticism of "Will and Grace" (although considering the dearth of leading gay characters on TV now, that show seems like a shining light) but I wonder if there is a residual open-mindedness in this generation as a result of that show.
It sure as hell doesn't seem to have seeped into Republican party.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/13/60minutes/main3615278.shtml
In reading the write-up about this Sunday's "60 Minutes" episode on an out gay soldier, I couldn't help but notice the comment about how this generation of "Will and Grace" soldiers don't care about gay comrades.
I dunno. I have a lot of criticism of "Will and Grace" (although considering the dearth of leading gay characters on TV now, that show seems like a shining light) but I wonder if there is a residual open-mindedness in this generation as a result of that show.
It sure as hell doesn't seem to have seeped into Republican party.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/13/60minutes/main3615278.shtml
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Re: Will and Grace generation: Soliders
Will and Grace was awesome. I used to watch it every night with my mom I think it helped soften the blow when I came out to her. She loves that show as much as I do.
Season seven came out a few days ago, I needs it. I haven't missed a boxset yet.
Will and Grace was awesome. I used to watch it every night with my mom I think it helped soften the blow when I came out to her. She loves that show as much as I do.
Season seven came out a few days ago, I needs it. I haven't missed a boxset yet.
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Re: Will and Grace generation: Soliders
Here's the thing--whether you personally like Will&Grace or not, it brought LGBT (mostly G) into the homes of America. I personally love the show and think it was etremely well written and had some amazing one-liners.
While the show was on, I lived in the midwest and know a lot of people who warmed up to the community through that show. I know that may sound weird, but television can have profound effects on society. My best straight guy friends used to watch the show and laugh, my parents had it as appointment televsion.
Here's the thing--whether you personally like Will&Grace or not, it brought LGBT (mostly G) into the homes of America. I personally love the show and think it was etremely well written and had some amazing one-liners.
While the show was on, I lived in the midwest and know a lot of people who warmed up to the community through that show. I know that may sound weird, but television can have profound effects on society. My best straight guy friends used to watch the show and laugh, my parents had it as appointment televsion.