Will unemployment benefits be extended?

[CowboyBob]

Further proof of the sociopathic tendencies of the republican party is their refusal to extend unemployment benefits.

Shortly after Christmas republicans allowed over a million Americans to be thrown into the streets because they refused to even consider an extension of benefits for the long term unemployed. Leaving in December, congress scampered off to their warm homes in their districts to enjoy the holidays not thinking how their constituents would fare.

President Obama is calling on congress to extend benefits which may be falling deaf ears of obstructionist republicans. Republicans in congress recently enjoyed a tax-payer funded 3 1/2 week vacation from being the least productive congress in American history. Their cruelty knows no bounds.

It's been estimated that a failure to extend benefits could cost businesses 240,000 jobs in 2014. Didn't republicans run on a platform of jobs jobs jobs? Unfortunately they didn't say they were against jobs jobs jobs.


Will republicans do the right thing and extent benefits to long term unemployed who through no fault of their own can't find a job with a living wage? Or will they continue to do everything they can in 2014 to hand everything over to corporations and the wealthiest 1%, obstruct President Obama, limit a woman's constitutional right to choose and allow the workplace to become more dangerous and polluted like they did in 2013?



http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-again-calls-on-republicans-to-extend-unemployment-benefits

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-unemployment-benefits-expiration-just-plain-cruel/

 

[Benvolio]

Welfare leads to dependency. At some point we need to require them to take jobs. If there are no jobs, why are 11 million immigrants the democrats number one priority? They do work that Americans don't want? Lets put the Americans to work.
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[Orlandude]

The republican mantra of "welfare leads to dependency" is the height of hypocrisy since it never seems to apply to corporate welfare. Republicans stoled billions from taxpayers to bail out corporations, billions more for the Bush tax cuts that were suppose to create millions of new jobs and didn't and then they shut down the government over ideological nonsense. Unemployment benefits will be re-instated and retroactive for at least 3 months at a time with additional oversight. That seems to be the plan from both sides of the aisle, except for the extremist loons who won't win this battle.

 

[CowboyBob]

The republican mantra of "welfare leads to dependency" is the height of hypocrisy since it never seems to apply to corporate welfare. Republicans stoled billions from taxpayers to bail out corporations, billions more for the Bush tax cuts that were suppose to create millions of new jobs and didn't and then they shut down the government over ideological nonsense. Unemployment benefits will be re-instated and retroactive for at least 3 months at a time with additional oversight. That seems to be the plan from both sides of the aisle, except for the extremist loons who won't win this battle.

Republicans have no problem with corporate welfare and handouts to the very wealthy. Every tax cut they give to the rich is a government handout.

 

[Benvolio]

Republicans have no problem with corporate welfare and handouts to the very wealthy. Every tax cut they give to the rich is a government handout.

So the income all belongs to the government and anything the taxpayer is allowed to keep is a handout. Spoken like a true Marxist.

 

[xbuzzerx]

So the income all belongs to the government and anything the taxpayer is allowed to keep is a handout. Spoken like a true Marxist.

Any corporation successfully operating for almost any period of time is directly benefitting from a plethora of tax-funded programs, from public education to infrastructure construction and maintenance, to fire and police. And larger corporations benefit more from these things existing than individual taxpayers do.

 

[CowboyBob]

Any corporation successfully operating for almost any period of time is directly benefitting from a plethora of tax-funded programs, from public education to infrastructure construction and maintenance, to fire and police. And larger corporations benefit more from these things existing than individual taxpayers do.

Good example. Like Wal*Mart paying their employees a non-living wage and expecting the government to make up the difference with food stamps, Medicaid, etc. All the while the majority of profits go to the offspring of Sam Walton, 5 of the richest people on the planet.

 

[Willie Boy]

Unemployment was never intended as a long term/permanent solution...... That is why they also have options for education, help to get the training they need to be able to find work in other fields. Too bad many unemployed individuals are more interested in just collecting unemployment checks than in improving their lives.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Unemployment was never intended as a long term/permanent solution...... That is why they also have options for education, help to get the training they need to be able to find work in other fields. Too bad many unemployed individuals are more interested in just collecting unemployment checks than in improving their lives.

The glut of people added to the unemployment rolls have been a result of the economic downturn since Bush, and not simply of people up and deciding they don't feel like working anymore. Perhaps in your version of reality there are millions of unfilled jobs people are simply snubbing to do.

 

[Benvolio]

The glut of people added to the unemployment rolls have been a result of the economic downturn since Bush, and not simply of people up and deciding they don't feel like working anymore. Perhaps in your version of reality there are millions of unfilled jobs people are simply snubbing to do.

Then, of course you agree that we should stop bringing in millions and millions and millions of uimmigrants?

 

[Benvolio]

Any corporation successfully operating for almost any period of time is directly benefitting from a plethora of tax-funded programs, from public education to infrastructure construction and maintenance, to fire and police. And larger corporations benefit more from these things existing than individual taxpayers do.

This is really irrelevant to the question of whether we should allow unemployment welfare to last a lifetime.

 

[CowboyBob]

President Obama wants congress to focus on the unemployment benefits when they return. They've hinted they may consider it but only with cuts elsewhere. That may be a good idea. Start by cutting the bloated defense program and eliminating oil company subsidies.

 

[White Eagle]

I'm hoping they will not extend benefits. This will insure that a Democrat Congress will be elected in ought 14 and ought 16.
Oh wait, that's not right. The ought goes before a single date not 14 or 16.

 

[CowboyBob]

I'm hoping they will not extend benefits. This will insure that a Democrat Congress will be elected in ought 14 and ought 16.
Oh wait, that's not right. The ought goes before a single date not 14 or 16.

You have a point there. Let the republicans act like the sociopaths they are and voters will remember it. The closer they get to the elections the angrier they'll become. We will need to remind them about the republican government shutdown too.

The right wing will carry on about the ACA, but by then millions will have health insurance so they'll be shooting themselves in the foot with their unregulated guns.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Then, of course you agree that we should stop bringing in millions and millions and millions of uimmigrants?

No, I don't, because banning illegals isn't going to bring back jobs college-educated Americans lost in the last 10 years, and it's another topic even though you bring it up in every single thread.

 

[xbuzzerx]

This is really irrelevant to the question of whether we should allow unemployment welfare to last a lifetime.

Making up an arbitrary time limit for unemployment benefits based off our magical internal impression of how much these "abusers" "deserve" is irrelevant to what's best during a severe economic downturn to try to help people trying to get jobs and struggling to get by.

I get that you think everyone ever on any form of assistance is a leech and that the correct amount of time to support them is 0 months, 0 weeks, 0 days, 0 years. But since that's not a sensible or adult position let the grownups discuss the issue.

 

[xbuzzerx]

You have a point there. Let the republicans act like the sociopaths they are and voters will remember it. The closer they get to the elections the angrier they'll become. We will need to remind them about the republican government shutdown too.

The right wing will carry on about the ACA, but by then millions will have health insurance so they'll be shooting themselves in the foot with their unregulated guns.

Except that Republicans are professionals at taking situations THEY created or the non-passage of measures THEY filibustered and then turning around and blaming Democrats for not having done it. So you can be sure that if there are bitter, disaffected unemployed people as a major consideration in the next election the Republicans will be talking disingenuously about how little Obama did to help them.

 

[CowboyBob]

Except that Republicans are professionals at taking situations THEY created or the non-passage of measures THEY filibustered and then turning around and blaming Democrats for not having done it. So you can be sure that if there are bitter, disaffected unemployed people as a major consideration in the next election the Republicans will be talking disingenuously about how little Obama did to help them.

Just like last year when the National Parks were shuttered because of the republican government shut down. They went to the parks and blamed everyone else for it.

Scumbags.

 

[cityboy-stl]

Then, of course you agree that we should stop bringing in millions and millions and millions of uimmigrants?

Then, of course YOU agree that we should stop sending millions and millions and millions of jobs out of the country?

 

[xbuzzerx]

Eg-fucking-zactly like that.