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Will You Be Watching The Democratic National Convention ?

just want to remind everyone that democrats never pushed for gay marriage or the repeal of dont ask dont telll, a democrat named bill Clinton signed the defense of marriage act, and the democratic politicians that acted recently were just there to pick low hanging political fruit in an attempt to appeal to the gay community. hillary clinton didnt support gay marriage until about 2009, and opposed it as a senator. around the same time biden and obama publicly supported it.

yes, the establishment, no matter how aligned with your ideas they seem, are using you. i dont blame the democratic party for all of it, a lot of it has to do with identity politics of homophobia and not taking on larger roles in the political process other than to push 'equal rights' we forget about everything else.
 
was that a slap on Bill?

Maybe so Mikey, not all wifes are okay with their husbands having extra-marital affairs, you lucked out there.

just want to remind everyone that democrats never pushed for gay marriage or the repeal of dont ask dont telll, a democrat named bill Clinton signed the defense of marriage act, and the democratic politicians that acted recently were just there to pick low hanging political fruit in an attempt to appeal to the gay community. hillary clinton didnt support gay marriage until about 2009, and opposed it as a senator. around the same time biden and obama publicly supported it.

And i'm sure your Republican party have always had the back of the gay and lesbian community.
 
just want to remind everyone that democrats never pushed for gay marriage or the repeal of dont ask dont telll, a democrat named bill Clinton signed the defense of marriage act, and the democratic politicians that acted recently were just there to pick low hanging political fruit in an attempt to appeal to the gay community. hillary clinton didnt support gay marriage until about 2009, and opposed it as a senator. around the same time biden and obama publicly supported it.

Blah blah blah...

Right now democrates support marriage equality and the republicans are the ones continuing the fight against the supreme court ruling.
 
Maybe so Mikey, not all [STRIKE]wifes[/STRIKE] wives are okay with their husbands having extra-marital affairs, you lucked out there.

And so did Shillary. Bill knows she's a dyke and has no problem with it either (and I fixed your little grammar boo-boo before Rareboy got to it).
 
I watched, old habits are hard to break.
Hillary did surprise me with her acceptance speech, I thought that it was quite good.
 
I haven't been able to watch much of the convention coverage until just the last two nights. I have been favorably impressed.
 
Thanks everyone for taking part in the thread.

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Thanks everyone for taking part in the thread.

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Great thread.

Always fun to see the Hillary Haters and Trumpettes totally lose their shit.

On to November and Hillary winning the presidency while Trump joins Edward Snowden in exile in Russia.
 
This is a great speech.
"Have Trump even read the United States constitution ?"

 
I found this interesting ... :lol: :slap:

 
just want to remind everyone that democrats never pushed for gay marriage or the repeal of dont ask dont tell, a democrat named bill Clinton signed the defense of marriage act, and the democratic politicians that acted recently were just there to pick low hanging political fruit in an attempt to appeal to the gay community. hillary clinton didnt support gay marriage until about 2009, and opposed it as a senator. around the same time biden and obama publicly supported it.
a lot of other people changed, too. MANY, MANY MILLIONS since the Nineties and DADT/DOMA acts. So you're saying that in no way is Hillary entitled to change in any sincere way, no matter what, and she is guaranteed to be lying when she says she's OK with it after all, huh?

I'm sure you know people who have changed their viewpoints, and you believe they're sincere, but you're holding Hillary to a different standard, one that prevents her from *EVER* possibly truly changing.

If this was 2108 and it was Chelsea's great-granddaughter running for president, you would be yammering that her great-great-grandmother was once against gay marriage.

Thanks for enlightening me...I'm so glad that it was Republicans in places like Minnesota and Maryland who voted for legal same-sex marriage, and that it was Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, Alito, and Kennedy (as the swing vote) who made the favorable ruling in the Obergefell case. I didn't know that. Who knew???

I even heard that the 2016 party platform for one of the major parties, says that Conversion Therapy is absolutely wonderful, and should be encouraged (and of course involuntary force is surely OK). So, that MUST be in the Democratic Party platform, because you told me that the Democrats aren't supporting gay issues.

Sounds like Jack Springer from a few years ago.

Blah blah blah...

Right now democrates support marriage equality and the republicans are the ones continuing the fight against the supreme court ruling.
What counts is RIGHT NOW. What Hillary Clinton (and some other Democrats) might have thought in 1997 is history, unless they didn't change their minds - and many have, and it has NOTHING to do with 2016 or 2017.
 
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