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Wonder Woman

^ I don't know if the movie will reflect this but in the comic book her lasso only helps her direct her own power of truth. The power is in her not the lasso. the men they are running from are Heracles and his soldiers. They decieve and rape the amazons in the comic. The braclets they wear are the gods way to remind them that once they were used and degrated by man and to never let that happen again.The history of Wonder Woman is actually pretty dark and very violent. Light doesn't shine on the amazons untill the birth of Diana.
The Birth of Diana
Immortality can be a lonely existence. Hippolyta and her Amazon sisters enjoyed peace and prosperity on Themyscira for 3,000 years, but the reincarnated Queen longed for the child she hd been denied in her previous life. The oracle Menalippe told her to mold a baby out of clay. Hippolyta did so and waited for a miracle. The goddesses of Olympus granted life to the child -- a girl Hippolyta named Diana -- giving her the sould of the unborn infant lost to Hippolyta some 32,000 years before! And so Diana became the first child ever born on Themyscira.
With powers granted by the goddesses of Olympus, Diana quickly grew strong. And with a thousand aunts and sisters to guide her, she swiftly mastered the ways of the Amazons. Her appetite for learning was voracious and Diana soon mastered all the skills of a warrior. She became expert at archery, swordplay, and all the martial arts practiced on Themyscira for thousands of years...

Diana made sure her Olympian benefactors knew how grateful she was for her powers. Every day she gave thanks to Demeter, Aphrodite, Athena, Artemis, Hestia, and Hermes. She promised not to waste her abilities and swore an oath to protect the innocent and always seek the path to peace.
 
bluedragon4 said:
^ I don't know if the movie will reflect this but in the comic book her lasso only helps her direct her own power of truth. The power is in her not the lasso. the men they are running from are Heracles and his soldiers. They decieve and rape the amazons in the comic. The braclets they wear are the gods way to remind them that once they were used and degrated by man and to never let that happen again.The history of Wonder Woman is actually pretty dark and very violent. Light doesn't shine on the amazons untill the birth of Diana.
The Birth of Diana
Immortality can be a lonely existence. Hippolyta and her Amazon sisters enjoyed peace and prosperity on Themyscira for 3,000 years, but the reincarnated Queen longed for the child she hd been denied in her previous life. The oracle Menalippe told her to mold a baby out of clay. Hippolyta did so and waited for a miracle. The goddesses of Olympus granted life to the child -- a girl Hippolyta named Diana -- giving her the sould of the unborn infant lost to Hippolyta some 32,000 years before! And so Diana became the first child ever born on Themyscira.
With powers granted by the goddesses of Olympus, Diana quickly grew strong. And with a thousand aunts and sisters to guide her, she swiftly mastered the ways of the Amazons. Her appetite for learning was voracious and Diana soon mastered all the skills of a warrior. She became expert at archery, swordplay, and all the martial arts practiced on Themyscira for thousands of years...

Diana made sure her Olympian benefactors knew how grateful she was for her powers. Every day she gave thanks to Demeter, Aphrodite, Athena, Artemis, Hestia, and Hermes. She promised not to waste her abilities and swore an oath to protect the innocent and always seek the path to peace.
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Why Hermes? He's a guy...

I recall something where if she was ever bound together by her bracelets,s he woudl lose her powers.
 
luminum said:
Why Hermes? He's a guy...

I recall something where if she was ever bound together by her bracelets,s he woudl lose her powers.
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That was pre-crisis Wonder Woman. She won't lose her powers by binding her bracelets. She can't be bound by her own lasso either. She was powered up to Superman status with her powers when she was re-launched in 1987. Just like now she can fly where as before she could only glide on wind currents and had to depend on her jet.She's also able to kill Superman without using any Kryptonite. She slashed his throat with her tiara before she broke Maxwell lord's neck. She also banged her bracelets together across his head to make Superman's ears bleed.Not to mention her sword can cut him.She's not your mother's Wonder Woman LOL.
 
as for Hermes he grants her speed and the power of flight. He also is the one to bring her to man's world and gives her his golden sandals so she may return to the island. It was not just the female gods who had a hand in the amazons fate. Hermes came many times to "man's world" as the messanger of the Gods.
Diana is shocked when Hermes shows up in Boston. He explains that he feels the journey of the rest of the gods is folley and seeks to assert himself, as a god, in Boston. He wins a few converts through bribes and healing, despite Diana's protestations. Hermes is tricked, however, by Phobos and Eurayle into unleashing Ixion the Assassin from his prison beneath the Earth. Ixion went on a rampage across Boston, killing hundreds and damaging the old U.S.S. Constitution. Wonder Woman bound Phobos in her Lasso and Hermes decapitated Eurayle. Even together they could not stop Ixion, however, and he had to be struck down by jet fighters. Diana blamed himself for what happened, as she had not taken a stronger position against Hermes when he first arrived.
He was killed by Circe (see War of the Gods for more details about this arc as a whole).
Time was running out for Wonder Woman. She tracked down Hermes, but he was unable (or unwilling) to heal Hippolyta, so Diana resolved to take her mother back to Paradise Island. She was attacked en route by fighters, but with the help of Starman she managed to evade them. On the shores of the Island, she would face Circe at last. Circe had fought her way through Hermes to get to Diana, but she would not simply kill the Amazon and risk Hecate's curse. Cutting them off from other heroes gathered on the Island (Starman, Hawkwoman, Aquaman, and Dolphin), Circe used her magic to revert Diana back into the clay of the island, the very same clay from which she was born. Having destroyed Wonder Woman, Circe departed, ready to grasp final victory. As the Amazons mourned their fallen princess, Superman rallied Earth's heroes for the final battle.
Diana was not dead--not completely. Her soul was collected by Phantom Stranger, Spectre, and Deadman. They told her that Klarion the Witch Boy had been responsible for disrupting Circe's spells. Superman, meanwhile, lead the charge against Olympus itself, where the confused Greek and Roman pantheons were still committed to destroying each other. When Circe's deceptions were made clear, she was transported back to the limbo realm where she had slain Hermes. There she found Donna Troy and Wonder Woman--restored to life. Diana battled the evil witch, and this time her power was the greater, for Hecate's power left Circe. The witch was seemingly killed, but Hecate was denied Diana's soul. The gods decided to depart again, but the long war was finally over
 
bluedragon4 said:
That was pre-crisis Wonder Woman. She won't lose her powers by binding her bracelets. She can't be bound by her own lasso either. She was powered up to Superman status with her powers when she was re-launched in 1987. Just like now she can fly where as before she could only glide on wind currents and had to depend on her jet.She's also able to kill Superman without using any Kryptonite. She slashed his throat with her tiara before she broke Maxwell lord's neck. She also banged her bracelets together across his head to make Superman's ears bleed.Not to mention her sword can cut him.She's not your mother's Wonder Woman LOL.
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What exactly does "pre-crisis" mean? I'm not a DC boy, so I'm totally lost.
 
Yeah, I just read the wiki on WW and it makes sense now.

Has Marvel ever done this many retconns or storyline eliminations/restarts?
 
luminum said:
Yeah, I just read the wiki on WW and it makes sense now.

Has Marvel ever done this many retconns or storyline eliminations/restarts?
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Not to my knowledge.I'm not a huge Marvel fan but I use to collect quite a bit of Marvel books but I finally stopped with civil war.Marvel lets it's strories run through to many books and it's to expensive to keep up with all that. I do have a lot if not all of the Spider-Woman books and a shit load of X-men books. I was a huge X fan in the 90's.But Marvel's alternative update versions of it's heroes is the Ultimate lines.The Ultimate books are not part of the regular stories in their other books.They are re-writing the past to fit in the present. Pretty much what DC did 20 years ago only Marvel put it's spin on it as only Marvel can do. They split the worlds in two.
Marvel doesn't age their heroes like DC does.DC comics goes way back to the 30's or 40's.There is a lot of history there.Marvel came about in the 60's.DC's infinite crisis Superman is the Superman of the 30's and his age reflects that. His Lois just died and her age reflected what it should be. Dc did a full vevamp in 1985 and started their heroes from scratch. Crisis merged all the Earths together to form one Earth and than one set of heroes. Now after 20 years the multiuniverse is returning. I always liked DC Elseworlds which was alternative versions of the DC heroes away from DC continuity. So I can't wait to see what's next. I always liked the Earth 2 versions of heroes(1940's). But the other Earths were more interesting cause it was like that episode of Justice League with the Justice Lords. The heroes strayed from their usual path which is always more interesting.
 
Blue: Hmm, then in that case, the whole lasso bit in the script is pretty much useless. I did read the countdown to IC where she slit Supes' throat with her tiara - - I thought that was pretty awesome. Her badass version in Kingdom Come was also memorable. I kinda hope they'll got with her "reinforce peace with a cestus on your fist" bit of her Amazonianness. It'd be a hell of a good way to show some timely political parallelism in my point of view.

On a related note, I hope they don't overdo the war montage bit in the script. Oh, and if the story happens in the WW 2 period, what will Diana's hair look like?
 
luminum said:
Yeah, I just read the wiki on WW and it makes sense now.

Has Marvel ever done this many retconns or storyline eliminations/restarts?
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They do retcons every other issue. Doom is apparently a racist now even though he's never displayed racism. Phoenix went to a minor cosmic to just behind the Living Tribunal. Oh and Onslaught never happened....
 
bluedragon4 said:
Marvel doesn't age their heroes like DC does.DC comics goes way back to the 30's or 40's.There is a lot of history there.Marvel came about in the 60's.
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Actually, this is wrong. DC started National Alliance Comics in 1934. Marvel started as Timely Comics back in 1939. About the same number of characters have remained from that era: Basically, Supes, Bats, WW, and a couple of other characters from DC, Cap, Vision, and Namor from Marvel, have been around since the beginning of their respective lines...

(DC's characters have undergone more revisions than Marvel's; today's FF is the same FF that started way back in 1961, whereas, Superman, has technically only been around since 1984 in his current form, and is actually the third version of that character; even Superman I was retired for most of Superman II's career).

But that's me getting into too much geekery...

RG
 
yuty said:
They do retcons every other issue. Doom is apparently a racist now even though he's never displayed racism. Phoenix went to a minor cosmic to just behind the Living Tribunal. Oh and Onslaught never happened....
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Actually, we just pretend Rob Liefeld never happened.

Or Pat Lee (when not drawing giant robots).
 
I remember like 7 years ago when there was a rumor that Joanie "Chyna" Laurer was going to be the Wonder Woman for the motion picture. Sadly, she couldn't meet the guidlines for the role (I beleive they wanted her to loose alot of mucle, upwards of 20 pounds, but considering she was wrestling 300 pound men, WWF wouldn't let her) I dunno about now, I think she lost all cred with the VH1 shows and people will think of that (or her character in Leagal Aliens) and think she is no good.

BUT I beleive back in the day, if WWF did allow her to vacation and loose some mucle, she could of done a really good at the part. Yet, her voice and boobs would throw people off.

Kate would be the best in my mind, but anything is better than that Lohan shit.
 
GayBoyKellyCfan said:
I remember like 7 years ago when there was a rumor that Joanie "Chyna" Laurer was going to be the Wonder Woman for the motion picture. Sadly, she couldn't meet the guidlines for the role (I beleive they wanted her to loose alot of mucle, upwards of 20 pounds, but considering she was wrestling 300 pound men, WWF wouldn't let her) I dunno about now, I think she lost all cred with the VH1 shows and people will think of that (or her character in Leagal Aliens) and think she is no good.

BUT I beleive back in the day, if WWF did allow her to vacation and loose some mucle, she could of done a really good at the part. Yet, her voice and boobs would throw people off.

Kate would be the best in my mind, but anything is better than that Lohan shit.
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How would she ever be good in that part? Wonder Woman is not a weight lifter! Remember Lynda Carter?And Lohan will never even be considered.I am telling you it will be a unknown actress like they did with Superman.
 
Jennifer Lopez.

She could use her powerful Asscheeks of Truth to overpower her enemies.
 
How about Liv Tyler? She surprised us all with a good Arwen - - who like DIana, was a valiant princess ready to fight for what she believed in.
 
I'm hoping for an unknown... WW is my favorite female superhero EVER... I will be so pissed if they screw up this movie...
 
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