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Working With Will

I'm sorry to hear it ended so suddenly for you. For what it's worth, you seem like an amazingly caring person and deserve all the love you give others.

And maybe Will broke it off to spare you. After all, I'm sure he has realized that so long as he's either in the closet or decidedly not interested in a relationship, he's bound to hurt you eventually. He probably saw Kyle as a way of facing that inevitability as painlessly as possible.

Of course we all in the audience only know so much about Will. But if I were to guess from what you've posted of him, I would say that Will loves you a lot, maybe even more than you'd let yourself think.
 
Frankly,

From what I read Will doesn't mean what he says. He reminds me of myself in that I was the straight guy who would say stuff like this when situations emerged. Mark my words, Will will come around again!
 
Even if he doesn't come around, he still wants to be friends and that's a pretty damn good deal.

Look at the bright side, the best way to get over someone, is to get into someone else and you are lucky enough to have an INCRDIBLE option.

Here's the other deal, maybe fate, karma, (if you are religious then you can say God), but whatever you want, is give you an opportunity - seize it with this other guy. One of the best traits successful people have is looking at the bright side (or how it could have been worse) and give yourself a day or two to be sad, but then move on. Move on with your friendship with him and if it comes around again, that's a whole other decision process.

But you have a very good opportunity with a new guy and should embrace that opportunity and grab it with all your gusto!

Start a new thread - Dating Kyle - we'll all subscribe :-)

You can come back to this one if things fire up again.
 
superboy83 said:
Yikes, guys! Now I'm getting threats! Don't worry, I told Will everything. I called him and told him I needed some advice, so we went to lunch. I told him that I was sorta set up on a date last night and everything went well but I couldn't stop thinking of him (Will) the whole time. And I asked him if he thought I should go out with Kyle again or am I right for wanting it to be him (Will). He said he was flattered, but wasn't ever wanting a relationship or anything serious. But he was glad I brought it up because he wants to stop messing around. He said he doesn't feel like it's what he wants and doesn't want to lead me on. But we're still best friends and he thinks I should go out again with Kyle.

I'm hurt pretty bad, but I'm glad it happened this way instead of things ending badly. And I'm glad it happened now before we got in deeper. But no matter how many excuses I make, it won't hide the fact that it sucks.

I still think he's at least bi. I just don't think he's ready to come to terms with what happened between us. He was curious and now that he's experimented some, he can go back to hiding. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the way I see it.
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i kick myself to think i missed all the good updates and even the "final chapter" XDDD,it must be so weird for you all the people and the emotions involved on this post,it really got us.at least me

i know that you are hurt,but think about it,will being "straight" did all he could to not break your heart while being sincere,he never made any promises and i don't think he played any games here (you would know that better than me tho XD)

i am actually happy it ended the way it did,it was the healthiest way for you (remember sometimes the best for us its not necesarilly what we pursue)
i was actually 90% sure it was going to end bad,but you managed to have fun and end it with the friendship not only intact but even stronger,you being as atractive and smart,funny,young,sensitive and witty as you are won't have any trouble finding the right guy,but finding friends like will i think its luck,on both sides of course,he is lucky to have you in his life

on another hand,the other positive aspect of this is,that if will come to terms about his sexuality in the future (and he will),you will be there for him and maybe who knows..
i wouldn't say the willmance saga it's over..it's just a new beginning,you're going into new territory and so he is ;)

Sorry but i think it happens to everyone who lived this post,we can't help it but to speak with a sense of belonging,i never felt this close to any post in a forum describing human interaction,and it may be due to your amazing narrative.

whatever it is,and i say from my heart,i wish you the best luck in the world james,this post gave me joy and emotions,and that's what counts :=D:

Post of the year without a doubt.
 
I think it's a good idea to go for Kyle. He could be the love of your life, who knows. You won't know unless you try.

Will seemed like it was something more for just for fun. It never became official and it never went beyond being friends and dating. If Will says it's ok then it's ok. there's a chance that Will might really want something more and was just saying that but if he did want something more, it's his job to go for it. He needed to give more signs if it's what he wanted.

Who knows, maybe you'll go out with Kyle, it doesn't work out and Will finally realizes he wants something more with you. If Will is gay or bi, he's probably not ready for a relationship yet but might be in the future. It wasn't a waste of time because you both got what you wanted in the sex and both made a very good friend.

I say go for Kyle. ..|
 
oh god! this thread is like a good soap!
what an emotional ride...

cant wait till next segment
 
JarodA said:
Yeah, it is a pity about Will. James has become somewhat of an idol for many of us I think. He has gay guys and straight guys lining up around the block. :D
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i know, what's up with that? why can't i be that lucky?
 
Sounds like you spared yourself from another heartbreak. I imagine this would go on with Will for a few more weeks. You'd have a few more hot updates, and then he'd tell you the news. You'd be a mess and alone again with an awkward friend.

But now, things couldn't be more perfect! You had the talk with Will, found out his true feelings on the matter, and can now happily pursue a gay guy who is comfortable with his sexuality and won't have any inhibitions of being close to you. No more searching for hints. Finally, you can have a guy who appreciates you for who you are physically and mentally.

I'd say "Working With Will" had a happy ending! You got a hot experience out of it and are still best friends! Now we need a Kyle thread.
 
Just_Believe18 said:
Sounds like you spared yourself from another heartbreak. I imagine this would go on with Will for a few more weeks. You'd have a few more hot updates, and then he'd tell you the news. You'd be a mess and alone again with an awkward friend.

But now, things couldn't be more perfect! You had the talk with Will, found out his true feelings on the matter, and can now happily pursue a gay guy who is comfortable with his sexuality and won't have any inhibitions of being close to you. No more searching for hints. Finally, you can have a guy who appreciates you for who you are physically and mentally.

I'd say "Working With Will" had a happy ending! You got a hot experience out of it and are still best friends! Now we need a Kyle thread.
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I agree 100% ..|
 
Some years back I worked with a guy that would joke with me the same way. So one day, I looked him in the eyes, said, I'm man enough are you? If you are you know where I live, come over tonight after work and lets finish what you are starting. He did come over, and we did finish what he started. We were together for 3 years.--openly.
 
coloradobottom said:
Some years back I worked with a guy that would joke with me the same way. So one day, I looked him in the eyes, said, I'm man enough are you? If you are you know where I live, come over tonight after work and lets finish what you are starting. He did come over, and we did finish what he started. We were together for 3 years.--openly.
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aw thats sweet. what happened?
 
There's absolutely no point in speculating whether or not Will is bi or gay or whatever. His behavior is gay or bi, but that doesn't mean he is. In fact, you have it from the horse's mouth that a relationship with another man is not what he wants. That just has to be accepted. Why does everyone want to label and quantify stuff? Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. That's it. End of story. I didn't feel like there should have been any question of should James go out with Kyle or not. There was never any kind of commitment expressed from the get go with Will. I mean, in relationships (or friendships) you can't take stuff on implication or at face value. You gotta lay it out so there's no misunderstanding. There was none of that with Will, so a date with someone else was fair game. James actually did the reasonable thing and had an adult conversation with Will about it, and now he knows where he stands. I'm sure it stings and that really sucks, but this momentary sting will be much more bearable than the question and pain that would have come from wondering later down the road if he hadn't had the talk.
 
I've been checking on this thread like 247. I miss Will...:badgrin:
 
Take all the time you need. Sorting out your feelings before you start something new can only help you out in the long run. Give yourself a little time to grieve and then put the hurt aside and move on. Don't wait too long, Kyle sounds like a cool guy to hang out with. Don't push him away too many times. He deserves a shot and so do you.
 
superboy83 said:
What is wrong with me??
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There's nothing wrong with you! In my humble opinion, in some weird way, this is kind of like a "breakup" with Will; not literally, because you're still great friends, but figuratively because of the emotional attachment beyond that.

With Kyle, give it time, and try not to force something that's not there, you need to process your feelings, take it slow (not sleazyQ) and in the meantime, you can get to know him a little better.
 
Kyle may be very nice to you and very interested in you, but are you equally interested in him? Don't let a friend pressure you into a relationship after she tried hooking the two of you up. You may not be quite over your "last" and not feel the right fit for your new admirerer. There's nothing wrong with being alone for a while and spending some time with yourself. Being with the wrong one is worse than being with no one.
 
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