loveguys72
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Gay or straight, he's still an unprincipled liar. So, no.
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Would you vote for Romney if he came out of the closet?
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^ I believe all politicians are liars. And I'm not surprised anyone might say they've forgotten an incident from 35 years ago. I've forgotten quite a few of the men I slept with 15 years ago.
No. I would not vote for someone just because they are gay. What a stupid question.
Oh, Hell no! Even if he turned out to be homosexual, he's still who he is. He might start to change, might make a habit of honesty after taking that initial step, but considering his background he'd be an emotional trainwreck if he came out.
And voting for a president just because he's gay, or just because he's black, or just because she's a woman, would be idiotic in the extreme. I know plenty of gays I wouldn't trust with my last name, much less my country. I vote because I agree with at least the majority of their policies and ideologies... you'll never find a candidate with whom you completely and wholeheartedly agree, so you have to parse out what is most important to you.
And even if he reversed all of his antigay positions and began to work for our equality, there's still the issues of his smash-and-grab economic ideology, which I think has the potential of destroying the nation, his complete lack of or interest in diplomatic ability, and his frankly ridiculous tendency to say things that are demonstrably untrue: I don't expect a politician to be completely honest, I don't think that's actually possible; but s/he can at least be a much more convincing and credible liar than Romney.
And voting for a president just because he's gay, or just because he's black, or just because she's a woman, would be idiotic in the extreme. I know plenty of gays I wouldn't trust with my last name, much less my country. I vote because I agree with at least the majority of their policies and ideologies... you'll never find a candidate with whom you completely and wholeheartedly agree, so you have to parse out what is most important to you.
And even if he reversed all of his antigay positions and began to work for our equality, there's still the issues of his smash-and-grab economic ideology, which I think has the potential of destroying the nation, his complete lack of or interest in diplomatic ability, and his frankly ridiculous tendency to say things that are demonstrably untrue: I don't expect a politician to be completely honest, I don't think that's actually possible; but s/he can at least be a much more convincing and credible liar than Romney.
Badddd cityboy-stl...
Having been here since 2005, you of all people should know that you can't judge a thread by the title, due to the limited amount of space available for it. You have to read at least a few sentences of the opening post to fully know what a thread is about. If you had done so, you'd know that expressing "complete support for gay rights" was the rest of the requirement. Because if he's gay and supportive of gay rights, then it's a safe bet he's going to give gay rights more than just lip service.
So next time, before being in such a big hurry to sling a rude, insulting comment at someone, take a few seconds to make sure you know what you're talking about. Otherwise you're liable to make a monkey out of yourself again...
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No. His economic policies are inept.
I support capitalism and I believe people are entitled to what they earn. But Romney is selling a winner-take-all approach that would allow the wealthy to take greater and greater advantage, with the salary gap getting wider and wider. Instead of free market fairness, that leaves most people without what they have earned.
His health policies (now that he is a presidential candidate) are inept and cruel.
Lots of third world countries are happy to see people die in the streets of whatever ails them. I don't get why the US should strive for that. The bottom line is, health care is different. It is a human right. (and no, because someone will ask, I don't think boob jobs are a human right - I'm talking about serious medicine.)
And his foreign policy is inept, unjust, and corrupt.
He will rush to war, and he will not be clever enough (or maybe honest enough) to understand the difference between supporting Israel, and supporting the nut-job right wing religious fanatics, just as mad as any crazy mullah, that keep propping up bad Israeli governments - governments who see peace as an obstacle to security instead of a condition of security.
I support capitalism and I believe people are entitled to what they earn. But Romney is selling a winner-take-all approach that would allow the wealthy to take greater and greater advantage, with the salary gap getting wider and wider. Instead of free market fairness, that leaves most people without what they have earned.
His health policies (now that he is a presidential candidate) are inept and cruel.
Lots of third world countries are happy to see people die in the streets of whatever ails them. I don't get why the US should strive for that. The bottom line is, health care is different. It is a human right. (and no, because someone will ask, I don't think boob jobs are a human right - I'm talking about serious medicine.)
And his foreign policy is inept, unjust, and corrupt.
He will rush to war, and he will not be clever enough (or maybe honest enough) to understand the difference between supporting Israel, and supporting the nut-job right wing religious fanatics, just as mad as any crazy mullah, that keep propping up bad Israeli governments - governments who see peace as an obstacle to security instead of a condition of security.
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that would make him a self hating man, wouldn't it. with that said, it wouldn't change a thing.
I don't vote the Pres. on sex, I vote who keeps the country strong and thriving, these other issues are used by both parties to confuse you. Gay rights needs to be changed at the state level, and let it spread from there. At the top there is to much resistance, all they do is argue.
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that obviously doesn't work which is why you have a few states which allow gay people to get married and most don't. the federal government doesn't recognize same sex marriage and it involves discrimination which is a federal issue so yes, the federal courts have to take care of that. i just hope that whoever is president doesn't screw up the supreme court where our rights get fucked over and we're back at square one. this is getting to be fucking ridiculous.
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(^ Oh dear, you're beginning to sound like Rareboy 
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I go to election and I vote for party's policies. I don't vote for a person and their personality. After all, as I said before, I believe all politicians lie. It's part of their job description.
)I go to election and I vote for party's policies. I don't vote for a person and their personality. After all, as I said before, I believe all politicians lie. It's part of their job description.