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With all these Straight men like gay men topics? Who are the idiots who keep spreading this bullshit? Once again Straight Men= Like Women, Gay Men= Like Men, and Bisexuals= Likes Men and Women. What part of that is SO difficult to understand? Get out of Fantasy Island, theirs no such thing as a straight man who sleeps with other men. C'mon JUB, lets end this nonsense.
 
In HT, nonsensical threads are fair game as long as there isn't male nakedity.

The majority of the new straight men threads are just parodies. So just LOL with them...or ignore them.
 
I disagree. The LABELS of Gay, Straight, Bisexual are just that. Labels. And are very confining. Human sexuality is not so cut and dried/black and white. It is on a scale of degrees. See Kinsey's scale to understand and illustrate this. Human beings can have a VAST array of expression of their sexuality but can label themselves any of the three ways (or not). It is what it is and it is NOT so neatly stuffed down into one of the three above mentioned catagories. Would men who have sex with men while in prison be gay? No. We need to be able to separate the ACTIONS from the EMOTIONAL. Pretty much anyone can have sex with anyone and it is just sex. Or fucking. But when you add the emotional element then you get the true nature of that individuals sexuality. Straight, Gay, Bi.. it is just a label for the convenience of others 'cause we like to label things for some reason.
 
Very nice Dodger - but.......(there's always a but......or around here a butt !!

this thread is not about that - this thread is about the other threads -- you see? It's about trolls and shit-stirrers -- who live to "stir the pot" - to make waves where the sign says "no wake "and to plant seeds of discontent and sit back and laugh while everybody else gets into the game, and so seriously, I might add.. where all 26 people are sure they are the only right one !!

so, once again, don't feed the trolls !! if they get hungry enough, they might go looking for a meal under a different bridge, but until then, they're gonna hang around here --

That's what the IGNORE button is for.
 
I don't think all of these zany threads are trolls. Sure it's easy to cast them off as such but some of threads, as misguided and idiotic as they are, simply are these posters' true thoughts who just want to genuinely discuss them and get it off their chests. What's the harm in that? Let's not be so quick to judge.
 
Whatever. I guess it's trolls being trolls.
 
Does it matter to anyone who is not in a relationship with him how someone defines himself? The sex act does not define someone's sexuality. I'm gay. I was married to a woman and I have 2 children. I'm not bi. Straight guys in prison have sex with men. I don't see why it's of concern to a disinterested third party.
 
Not only have I read numerous of threads in which the author fantasizes about having sex with a straight guy, I have read many in which the author actually claims to have done so. Sexuality is not black and white. It is a gradient of varying shades of grey. That being said, I still find it difficult to believe many of these fantastical stories. Judging from the threads in these forums, you'd probably think that sex with straight guys is a commonplace event. I can't help but wonder if the author is flat-out lying, or perhaps was not aware that the guy was at least bisexual. On that point, I have to also wonder, if the authors of these threads were under the impression that the guys were straight, why then would they pursue sexual activity with them at all? If I thought a guy was straight, I refrain from sexual advances. Heck, I would refrain from sexual advances even if the guy was gay, unless I knew he was interested. And, if it was the "straight" guy who made the advances, why would the authors of these threads continue to characterize the guy as straight, as opposed to to "gay" or "bisexual"?

Perhaps, I'm only skeptical because I am 100% gay and have not even the remotest interest in having sex with a woman. Or, maybe it's because I'm just resentful that I can't even get a gay guy to have sex with me, let alone a straight guy. If what these authors are saying is true, then I have to ask, where can I find these straight guys!?!? Unfortunately, in my experience, straight guys strictly like women.
 
Oh God.

Another thread about threads about straight guys.

WTF!!???
 
Yes, human sexuality has diversity, and people identify themselves differentl. But to put it another way, just because I call myself Japanese doesn't mean I am Japanese for fuck's sake. I did study it for nine years, but I'm still not Japanese. I may well call myself straight, but regardless of what social concerns I have, if my experiences and expression include a repertoire of sexual liaisons with people of my own sex, I am not straight...no matter how frequently I call myself straight or to whom in what circumstances. Now, the word 'gay' is politically and socioeconomically laden; it is a sign predominantly used by Western middle class culture and as so much international discussion of this topic is in the main controlled by members of that class. It is frequently over-generalised to include all men of all countries, ages, politics, social and economic groups and sub-classes who only (or even sometimes) have sex with men, and this is incorrect. I realise this sounds like semantics, and it sort of is, but the word 'homosexual' is also problematic (as is the word 'heterosexual,' for that matter) so we settle for the most offensive word to the majority and use the word Queer (capital Q) to speak to non-straight folk. ;)

Generally speaking though, for the purposes of this board, it is reasonable to assume that all members of JUB recognise and understand the appellations of Straight, Bi and Gay as referring to those who (in that order) share sexual liaisons with 1/ the other (yes, I know about hermaphrodites...) sex; 2/ both sexes, and; 3/ their own sex only.

It matters how people refer to each other because it primes or conditions people to think of social order in a particular fashion. We see in Australia, for example, very little recognition of Aboriginal citizens as being fairly or proportionately represented as attractive, intelligent or desirable, and almost never as gay or bi. We see non-straight Asian guys as being represented overwhelmingly as effeminate. And so on. The result is stereo-typing that even those who fall into those sub-cultures capitulate to. Young men growing up and searching for language to identify themselves need to be able to hear, read, explore and use a wide variety of language, but it needs to be parole that offers integrity, honesty, so as to enable people to be true to themselves and to others as they try to grow into a social structure that facilitates exploration of potential and expansion of meaning.

The promotion of straight character that is in fact a lie, a deceit, undermines the non-straight and eventually all society, but most directly and powerfully our own Queer people. When we point the finger to those who would scream condemnation of us encouraging self-hatred, a sense of displacement, self-harm and suicide, we must remember that we have four fingers pointing back at ourselves. Language has powers of clarification and validation but it can also be used to cloud and confuse, to disempower and corrupt. Most people don't put too much effort into thinking about the real consequences of their own imagined 'cleverness' as they try to have others believe their marketing or spin, but there are always consequences when people 'buy' a crappy product. When we mislabel ourselves and each other and we believe our own tales of deception, or set up our younger friends to believe us when we lie, we do all of us an enormous injustice.

But aside from all of that doom and gloom, didn't any of your parents tell you 1/ Don't believe it just because the newspaper/TV/radio/your mates tell you it's so - examine the evidence and argument, and 2/ If your friends tell you to jump off a cliff, would you do it? No, you would think about the consequences of following their ridiculous suggestions. So, we shouldn't fall for spin, and we should explore the results of playing along with silly social games.
 
I don't think all of these zany threads are trolls. Sure it's easy to cast them off as such but some of threads, as misguided and idiotic as they are, simply are these posters' true thoughts who just want to genuinely discuss them and get it off their chests. What's the harm in that? Let's not be so quick to judge.


no harm - just obnoxious a lot of the time - yes, I don't have to read them, I don'thave to respond -- On the judgement factor -- how long have you been here? oh -- that long, wow..... check back with me in a couple of years, regarding people's motivation for posting here.

and you notice "none of them" have posted in this thread.....gee, what a surpise....
 
Ironic we're getting this message when every time I look at the forum, the first thing I see is an ad for Broke Straight Boys
 
I don't think all of these zany threads are trolls. Sure it's easy to cast them off as such but some of threads, as misguided and idiotic as they are, simply are these posters' true thoughts who just want to genuinely discuss them and get it off their chests. What's the harm in that? Let's not be so quick to judge.

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no harm - just obnoxious a lot of the time - yes, I don't have to read them, I don'thave to respond -- On the judgement factor -- how long have you been here? oh -- that long, wow..... check back with me in a couple of years, regarding people's motivation for posting here.

and you notice "none of them" have posted in this thread.....gee, what a surpise....

So cynical:(
 
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