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X-Men's top 3 most powerful women

The Phoenix got lambasted by Chaos Wave. It was scattered and a few remnants of it managed to go to the White Hot Room.

Even than Jamie Braddock manipulated the White Hot Room with ease. Not many cosmic beings could stand up to the Chaos Wave. Even Galactus got swept way.


She got lambasted because she couldn't stand up to it. True. But she couldn't stand up to it 'cause she didn't have enough power to do so since she only had a very small fragment of Phoenix's power...not enough to do much against Chaos Wave.


Rachel may have possessed a small fragment of the Phoenix but a small fragment still puts her leagues above the likes of Rogue or Storm.

I don't know where the hell you read in my post me implying that she wasn't but ok...
 
did emma frost once said that Jubilation would have the ability to use her power in atomic level?

at full potential she'd be able to detonate things at the subatomic level. basically
blow shit up from the inside out
 
Jean Grey - She was/is host to the Phoenix Force and can't really die conventionally. Plus she's like the den mother of all mutants.

Kitty Pryde - Genius intellectually, damn near invulnerable, trained in combat skills by Wolverine and his mentor Ogun, and an attitude to boot.

Sage - Computer like brain, brilliant strategist, pretty capable hand to hand skills, pretty fucking sneaky, and also a lower level telepath.
 
That's exactly what I thought after seeing the first movie.

I always thought that model Iman would have made a great Storm. I think she actually looks like storm from the comics. As far as most powerful I would say Jean Grey. Even without the phoenix force she is no one to be trifled with. In one source I read her mutant telepathic abilites rivaled Professor X, plus her insanely powerful telekinetic abilities which in X men 1 movie they toned down considerably. I would put Rogue at number 2 simply for the fact that if she touches another mutant long enough she would either kill them or put them in a comatose state and permanently absorb thier abilities. Followed closely by Storm and then Scarlet Witch.( I am including her simply because she was an original member of the brotherhood as led by her father, Magneto, who fought the x-men on numerous occasions)
 
I would LOVE to see Jubilee grow up and develop her powers. I remember years ago some obscure future Earth where she controls light, manipulating photons to make tangible images (like a Star Trek holodeck) or to make objects appear invisible to onlookers, as well as causing explosions like the original manifestation of her powers but at a much larger scale.


Rogue is only good when she retains Ms. Marvel's invulnerability and flight, not the newer portrayals of the young emo Rogue. She would be even better if she could recall any of the absorbed powers at will.


I don't think Rachel is that great. She only commands an echo of the Phoenix, wheras Jean actually is Phoenix. She couldn't stand up the the Shi'ar death squad that killed her relatives and it was only when she was pushed to an emotional breaking point that she could manifest a Phoenix raptor. I think Storm could seriously fuck Rachel up. Kitty could probably subdue her as well because she's a lot smarter. The good powerful Rogue wouldn't go down quietly and would likely outlast Rachel in a fight. Emma would be a good match against her, but I would give the edge to Emma because she has a maniacle way of thinking.
 
Okay, I'm not going to respond to anyone specifically; however, I will say that some of these response seem more like, the X-Woman I like, as opposed to the most powerful X-Woman. Some of these female choices are really excellent, but trying to compare them to mutants who can destroy the whole Earth or Universe, if they ever get mad...Let's be realistic here.
 
They RUINED Rogue in my opinion. All thanks to that goddamn X-Men movie.

Rogue is NOT an emo. She's not depressed, mopey and suicidal all the time.

Anyone remember the old X-Men cartoon? THAT was Rogue. Fun, aggressive and an Southern Belle with a sharp mouth and penchant for kicking ass with no questions asked.

IMO, the REAL Rogue died a long time ago.....

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They RUINED Rogue in my opinion. All thanks to that goddamn X-Men movie.

Rogue is NOT an emo. She's not depressed, mopey and suicidal all the time.

Anyone remember the old X-Men cartoon? THAT was Rogue. Fun, aggressive and an Southern Belle with a sharp mouth and penchant for kicking ass with no questions asked.

IMO, the REAL Rogue died a long time ago.....

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The X-Men movies ruined pretty much everyone.
 
The X-Men movies ruined pretty much everyone.


Are you kidding.. any fan will tell you that the cartoon from the 90's was shit... Rogue from that cartoon was a mockery of what she was in the comics.. she was pretty much the stereotypical southern belle made up for cheap laughs when in the comics she was strong anything but a stereotype.. same goes for Storm.. Storm was so blank she could have been played by a stone and you wouldn't have known the difference whereas the comic version she was WAY more complex. The movies gave most of them character ... yes Rogue and Storm were shortchanged in the movies but not nearly as much as in that awful cartoon from the 90's
 
Are you kidding.. any fan will tell you that the cartoon from the 90's was shit... Rogue from that cartoon was a mockery of what she was in the comics.. she was pretty much the stereotypical southern belle made up for cheap laughs when in the comics she was strong anything but a stereotype.. same goes for Storm.. Storm was so blank she could have been played by a stone and you wouldn't have known the difference whereas the comic version she was WAY more complex. The movies gave most of them character ... yes Rogue and Storm were shortchanged in the movies but not nearly as much as in that awful cartoon from the 90's

Hmm...wrong. While I may not expect a perfect translation of comic book to cartoon or cartoon to movie, the cartoon did a far better job of portraying everyone overall. I'll give you the fact that the 90s cartoon watered down people's full-potential in powers, and the women's personalities were watered down; however, it was still accurate to some degree.

On the other hand, the movie completely altered the majority of the X-Men Universe, excluding names. While I expected the movie to be completely different from cartoon and comic books, as Bryan Singer said that was the direction he intentionally took, why not keep the most basic ideas the same. Here are examples that I can remember:

1) Storm was from Africa. The cartoon acknowledge this; however, the movie seemed to have forgotten this fact. As far as her personality, Storm was portrayed as weak in the movie and the cartoon. If I really want to be technical, Storm has a darker complexion than what she was cast in the movie.

Honestly, I cannot believe that you can say that Halle Berry did a good job as Storm from an acting perspective.

2) Rogue was watered down in the both the cartoon and the movie. However, the Anna seemed to have consistency problems with her accent as she seemed to forget that she was even southern at all.

Rogue should have been cast as someone in her twenties, not a teenager in a love triangle with Iceman and Shadowcat. In addition, Rogue gained her white streak from Magneto in the movie, whereas she had the streak before she ever met Magneto. Finally, Rogue is obviously missing her Ms. Marvel abilities without an explanation whatsoever.

3) Wolverine has no connection to Lady Deathstrike at all; he does not know who she is or what she does. The cartoon, again, acknowledge this fact that they had/have a history. In addition, Lady Deathstrike was basically X-23; Lady Deathstrike was partially a cyborg. I do not believe that Wolverine's connection to Sabretooth was explained; he was just another man to brawl.

4) Phoenix...where do I begin? While the cartoon portrayed the Phoenix force as merging with the original Jean, the movie portrayed it as a split personality, as opposed to a force. Again, the cartoon was more accurate.

Of course, once she became Phoenix she listened to Magneto and killed Professor X? She killed Cyclops, with whom she has a psychic rapport, but she keeps Wolverine alive. As a matter of fact, why could she not kill Wolverine, of all the mutants.

5) Mystique has no connection to Rogue or Nightcrawler. She does not know who either of them are.

6) Beast's connection to Xavier really is not explained. Again, Beast has no knowledge of any the X-Men outside of Xavier.

7) Pyro...why was he on the X-Men team at all? In addition, he should have been older as he was portrayed as a teen in the movie. Finally, where's his accent?

8) Juggernaut...where did he get his accent? All of a sudden, Juggs has an Irish accent. Again, he does not know (or it was never explained) that Professor X is his step-brother.

9) Colossus, once again, he's a teenager and where's his Russian accent? For someone who's been in Russia for a great deal of his life until his teens, there should have been a hint of an accent, even if he were acculturated.

10) Iceman: see Rogue and storyline issues in the movie. Of course, the cartoon acknowledge his true romantic storylines, although they may have been inaccurate.

11) Leech was supposed to be with the Morlocks. He was also supposed to be green, but that's a technicality.

12) Callisto was given brand new powers. As far as I knew, she never had superspeed or the ability to sense mutants' potentials. Callisto was basically a human at peak physical form in the cartoon and movie.

13) All of the mutants begin at their full potential in the movie, whereas the cartoon had expressed that mutants grow into their potential.

So, if one really wants to see inaccuracies and gaps, the movie wins. As it should, as it was clearly made for entertainment, as opposed to being paralleled with the video games, comic book series, or cartoon.
 
So, if one really wants to see inaccuracies and gaps, the movie wins. As it should, as it was clearly made for entertainment, as opposed to being paralleled with the video games, comic book series, or cartoon.


Don't get me wrong.. I had many many issues with the movies but I saw it for what it was and that they had taken it pretty much from the Ultimate universe as opposed to normal continuity. I am just saying before you start bashing the movies and praising the cartoon series.. look at it for what it's worth.. both were good for fans in a way but both had A LOT of issues... I would dissect all your points but I feel like there isn't really a need to because in truth you are correct but at the same time the cartoon was filled with inaccuracies and gaps.. and thats not even talking about the atrocious animation.
 
It totally depends on the writers...
I remember back in the 90s in Generation X, Emma said that Jubilee has "unlimted potential to detonate matter at the sub atomic level" to which effect could make her one of the most powerful mutants some day... of course we know this is BS, even if you love Jubes.

So I guess overall:
1: Jean Grey - Come on, there isn't much argument. She's dead now, but pretty much everyone knows she'll come back (and die, and come back, and die, etc)

2: Emma - She has stepped up recently and shown her worth as a crazy awesome telepath. One of the tops in Marvel probably.

3: Storm - She seems so underated in the comics... but she can fuck the shit up when she wants to!
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Just for fun, here's my personal favorite:
Shadowcat - She's just awesome. She's the original x-little-sister. She's down to earth, and not drawn too sex-pot. She has one of the better love stories (with Colossus in Astonishing), and is in general, a really likeable character. I like her power too! I fantasize about having that ability.
 
Marvel has no idea what to do with its powerful women so it may be better that Jubes never got stronger. She'd only end up dead or married to Black Panther...
 
2) Rogue was watered down in the both the cartoon and the movie. However, the Anna seemed to have consistency problems with her accent as she seemed to forget that she was even southern at all.

Rogue should have been cast as someone in her twenties, not a teenager in a love triangle with Iceman and Shadowcat. In addition, Rogue gained her white streak from Magneto in the movie, whereas she had the streak before she ever met Magneto. Finally, Rogue is obviously missing her Ms. Marvel abilities without an explanation whatsoever.

OMG I totally agree with you. I could live with all of the other inconsistencies, but THIS???? They made Rogue a sad teenager with pale skin and severe self-esteem issues. And NO Ms. Marvel powers at all. Ok I could even live without the Ms. Marvel powers but why did they give her such a boring and insecure personality?? And ANNA PAQUIN??? Rogue looks more like a Carmen Elektra.

Oh yes and the freaking white streak...Magneto gave it to her?? How ridiculous and unnecesary, she was just born with it!
 
OMG I totally agree with you. I could live with all of the other inconsistencies, but THIS???? They made Rogue a sad teenager with pale skin and severe self-esteem issues. And NO Ms. Marvel powers at all. Ok I could even live without the Ms. Marvel powers but why did they give her such a boring and insecure personality?? And ANNA PAQUIN??? Rogue looks more like a Carmen Elektra.

Oh yes and the freaking white streak...Magneto gave it to her?? How ridiculous and unnecesary, she was just born with it!


Please refer to Uncanny X-Men #171 when Rogue gets introduced to the team... she has absolutely no self-esteem and is completely insecure. Reread any issue after that and you will see that she still has esteem issues especially the more wonky her powers get....

Also I can't remember where it was mentioned, I believe it was in one of the X-Men Unlimited, but Rogue is not that old. She is closer in age to Iceman than anyone else and Iceman was the youngest of the originals.

Also as for not having the Ms. Marvel powers ... During the AoA storyline, Rogue had absorbed Polaris's powers not Ms Marvel's giving her magnetic powers instead of the cosmic stuff.
 
okay so if anyone calls themselves an x-men addict and loves the any of the movies storylines, in my opinion you suck lol....

jean grey/phoenix------ she's so badass they have to keep killing her off, even though i don't really like her myself

storm-- she's my favorite character and yes she is crazy powerful, think about someone who can control wind and think about what we have to breath AIR if she was a bad guy i think she would be a magneto level threat

white queen-- they are really building up her character right now, i'm kind of curious as to how she is going to work out.. i think the cuckoos are pretty powerful also but they don't count b/c there are three of them

racheal summers....... i mean yea she has the phoenix force or whatever but come on, she is always getting her ass handed to her. i really don't think she is that powerful.. maybe if she could harness more power then she might be alright
 
Please refer to Uncanny X-Men #171 when Rogue gets introduced to the team... she has absolutely no self-esteem and is completely insecure. Reread any issue after that and you will see that she still has esteem issues especially the more wonky her powers get....

Also I can't remember where it was mentioned, I believe it was in one of the X-Men Unlimited, but Rogue is not that old. She is closer in age to Iceman than anyone else and Iceman was the youngest of the originals.

Also as for not having the Ms. Marvel powers ... During the AoA storyline, Rogue had absorbed Polaris's powers not Ms Marvel's giving her magnetic powers instead of the cosmic stuff.

Yes I know she was insecure at first and has some self-esteem issues because she can't touch people...But that isn't who all of who she is. She's strong, and confident when she needs to and can kick serious ass. She's not a little child crying like the movie's Rogue.

And about the powers, well yeah she has absorbed a lot of people but the Ms. Marvel powers were iconic and that's how a lot of people who didn't read comics knew her (like me). I even remember when I was at the theater watching the first movie, there was this scene when Rogue is stuck in Wolverine's truck and she's struggling to remove the seatbelt, the guy behind me asked his friend "wait wasn't she like super strong or somethin?"
 
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