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Yorkshire to Annex France in 2014

palbert said:
At the time of William there was no real France -- it was an idea born of Philip II Augustus of France in his successful campaign against the Angevins. He was the first king of what we now call France.
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There was a France, even though much smaller than actual France. The King at this period was Henri 1er sacred at Reims. And William was definitely a vassal of the King of France.
 
Still I would take Paris over London...far nicer city...and the metro SLIGHTLY cleaner than the tube (mind the [STRIKE]gap [/STRIKE]crap)...although Parisians ruder in crowd situations..
 
Parisian crowd in the metro should be studied. It's revolting how rude, selfish, self centered anyone can be turned by this nightmare. But Parisians outside the transport system are not much more rude than anywhere in large western modern cities I guess.
 
If William the Conqueror was so French why is it called Yorkshire Pudding? Why isn't it Flan de Normande?
 
Hard-up1 said:
This mystery puts Andreus' into the shade.

If the Normans were French, what happened to their love of cuisine?

One recipe for Yorkshire Pudding does not the Cordon Bleu make! ;)

BTW, the best food I had while in England was in fact in Leeds, albeit not local fare.
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Did Julia Child essay on this? Did Charles VI give up the French claim to Flan de Normande at Agincourt?
 
Hard-up1 said:
This mystery puts Andreus' into the shade.

If the Normans were French, what happened to their love of cuisine?

One recipe for Yorkshire Pudding does not the Cordon Bleu make! ;)

BTW, the best food I had while in England was in fact in Leeds, albeit not local fare.
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Heresy! You will be tied to a steak and served with Yorkshire Pudding and lashings of gravy. We'll see how tender your meat and potatoes are! Oh the irony!!
 
Well I guess that if we were to taste French, Saxon or Viking food of that time (circa 1050) it would taste rather strange to our modern palates :)
William was not a very educated person as far as I know, and it's goal was not to change the entire Saxon culture. Nobility was French and peasants, craftsmen, town citizen was mostly Saxon, two worlds colliding without mixing much. Hence the double vocabulary, and why French words sound snobbish :)
 
Hard-up1 said:
Yes. The fish and chips were quite good at a kiosk near The White Rose Shopping Center. It was owned by an Iraqi.

Better yet, there was some Mediterranean place in a bistro style just adjacent to Leeds University, not far from an old gothic church that was still sooted up from the previous century's industrial boom.

The best was an Italian cafe in the basement of the Leeds library. Was truly wonderful. Reminded me of exactly how close European cultures are to one another.
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I know the university area pretty well (as a former student) and the library too (although as a student I didn't trouble the librarians much!). Can't say I'm familiar with either restaurant though. They could have disappeared over the last 10 years, but I might have a nose around.
 
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