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DiaryOfAMadman

DiaryOfAMadman

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Hey everyone, I had an intresting question I wanted to pose to the JUB community since so many people are here from all around the world. Every country and every culture has its own culture and history, therefore you have different icons and villians. Some of them are very prominent in your own national history but less known around the world.

For example with me being from the United States I might say our greatest:

Hero: George Washington (Leader of the US Revoultion)

Villain: Bennidict Arnold (American General turned traitor who jumped ship to try and help the British Defeat the Colonnists during the US Revoultion)

Try to take this from more of a National History stand point then from your own personal feelings. Now others from the US might differ with me but those are just made for an example. I know a lot of European countires might choose "Adolph Hitler" as their Greatest Villian, however lets try to avoid him becuase he's so obvious. However, if you wish to include him then please do, but also make an alternate choice that we might not all be familar with.

I think this could be intresting and allow us to learn more about eachothers culture.
 
Hero - Former prime minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau. "The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation."

Villain(s) - Paul Barnardo and Karla Homolka. Husband and wife, they were despicable predators and murderers (including Karla's own 13-year-old sister, Tammy). Karla struck a deal and testified against her husband. It was only after the deal had been cut that it was determined that Karla had sexually assaulted her own sister as well. The assaults were videotaped. Tammy choked and died on her own vomit. Two other young girls were also assaulted and murdered.
 
gsdx said:
Hero - Former prime minister Pierre Elliott Trudeau. "The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation."

Villain(s) - Paul Barnardo and Karla Homolka. Husband and wife, they were despicable predators and murderers (including Karla's own 13-year-old sister, Tammy). Karla struck a deal and testified against her husband. It was only after the deal had been cut that it was determined that Karla had sexually assaulted her own sister as well. The assaults were videotaped. Tammy choked and died on her own vomit. Two other young girls were also assaulted and murdered.
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You know, I think I heard of that case. It was on one of HBO's Autopsy specials. Then the saw the video's and how "into it" Karla was in everthing. It was disgusting and just plain awful. But asside from that 20 mins on HBO I never remember it in the news.
 
Karla was recently released and is now, I believe, living in Montreal.

She tried to say that Paul had forced her into it all, but the tapes showed that she was more than willing. Then there were all the lies.

Canadians were pretty pissed off when we discovered Karla had literally got away with murder.
 
Hero Gough Whitlam and Paul Keating
Villain John Howard
 
Seeing as how Trudeau is already taken...

Hero: Terry Fox... cant imagine what he was feeling as he tried to run across Canada.

Villain: Rob Anders... think of Ann Coulter in drag.
 
I am SO going to get in trouble for this, but . . .

Hero: Ronald Reagan.

Villain: William Jefferson Clinton.


A4A
 
Austin40acres said:
I am SO going to get in trouble for this, but . . .

Hero: Ronald Reagan.

Villain: William Jefferson Clinton.


A4A
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(not in a bad way at all) but you must be a republican. I'll give Regan credit for only one thing. He made you feel secure to be an American. Regardless of his age his image was always of a "strong president".
 
SHHHHH!

Don't tell anyone! Yes, I'm a Republican!

Keep it on the down-low, OK?

A4A
 
Philippines
Hero: Jose Rizal (duh)
Villain: Emilio Aguinaldo

Canada
Hero: Lester B. Pearson
Villain: Stephen Harper
 
I remember being on rez subtly convincing this girl to vote NDP in the last election. I waved goodbye to her while she was riding the van to the place where they voted. And I walked alone at night and it was chilly. And I remember being frightened more than I ever was.
 
wastingmymind said:
I remember being on rez subtly convincing this girl to vote NDP in the last election. I waved goodbye to her while she was riding the van to the place where they voted. And I walked alone at night and it was chilly. And I remember being frightened more than I ever was.
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Why is that?
 
For me:

Hero; John A Macdonald. Our first Canadian Prime Minister. he had the vision to unite this great land and was able to reconcile and provide for every future province of this country to secure their buy-on in forming this nation.


Villains: the few mass murderers we had the misfortune to nurture in our midst. Olsen in British Columbia,and that pig-farm chap who murdered so many ladies of the night, again in BC.
 
For me:

Hero- Gough Whitlam-Australian Prime Minister (ALP) during the 70s. Was kicked out of office in a VERY controversial move by the Governer General. Has recently been vindicated with the pulic release of previously confidentail parliamentary documents. Politics in Australia at that time were less than savoury.

Paul Keating- Australian Prime Minister (ALP) during the early 90s. Could be considered a bit if a villian, mainly due to being very outspoken, and not afraid to voice his opinions of people.

All Australian Men and Women involved in WW2-These courageous people are in my opinion hero's. They sacrificed everything to make Australia a better place. Some paid the ultimate price, others had to endure years of punishment and torture in Japanese POW camps. Others had to endure the HELL that was Kokoda. I am sure that every pre-war family in Australia was touched in some way by this most horrendous chapter of 20th century history. I know my family was.

Villian- Ned Kelly-Considered by many Australians to be a national icon, but I only see him as a murdering thief- He was a bush-ranger during the 1800's, famous for his iron suit, worn to protect him against the bullets of the police. He was eventually caught, tried and hung in Melbourne Gaol. It is said that he now haunts the former Gaol.

Christopher Skase- Australian Media and Business magnate during the 80s. His business activities eventually cause 1000's to lose their jobs while he made a not so honest profit, he fled the country, to live in spain, where there is no extradition treaty with australia. He cliamed that he was now poor and terminally ill, to avoid extradition. It must be said that for such a poor and destitute man, his lifestyle in Majorca was above what even many wealthy people can afford. The Australian authorities tried for many years to have him deported, to no avail. He "died" a few years ago. Now his wife is a wealthy woman living in Majorca!!
 
Endlight said:
For me:

Hero; John A Macdonald. Our first Canadian Prime Minister. he had the vision to unite this great land and was able to reconcile and provide for every future province of this country to secure their buy-on in forming this nation.
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I thought of him as well, but he was a hopeless alcoholic who spent most of the time running our new 'Dominion' whilst in a drunken stupor. Oh, and there were those little things called the Pacific Scandal and the North-West Rebellion, each of which almost tore Canada apart again.

That's why I went for Trudeau. He got the ball rolling for us.
 
I'm extremely happy how well this thread has gone. I'm curious to hear from more Europeans, Africans, and South Americans............. please freel free to chime in. And thanks for all those who elaborated and gave us a brief history of their selections.
 
british:

hero: emmeline pankhurst, bouddicca (my personal hero) and aleister crowley

villain: rose west (serial child killer with her husband fred .. buried numerous bodies in their walls/under their floorboards etc .. including fred's daughter from a previous marriage)
 
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